To reckon that Reform will win the next election, and to be utterly terrified about it? 😪

Another Reform leader realising its harder than it looks
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c98qpy0rd1ro

@BeAmberZebra do you think £75000 on flags is a good use of public money?https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz68d284dvyo

I know a little about company car/van fleets, so they say a saving of 7.5m by not going EV by 2030... fair enough, so what will they replace their current fossil fuel vehicles with?
By 2030, fossil fuel vehicles will be increasingly expensive and higher fuelling costs

Or if they don't replace, they'll have higher mtce and running costs & less reliability, if they lease, they'll have to pay higher lease amounts.

Same with not improving housing insulation standards... what is the alternative? how badly insulated etc are these properties?

With so little detail, its hard to find any proof future savings can be realised.

No it’s not.

@BeAmberZebra believing what you read on a Reform website regarding savings is really misguided.

They are liars. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/feb/07/reform-run-kent-council-accused-of-fabricating-40m-net-zero-savings

Reform had the chance of a coalition but turned it down (they didn't really want power) then too many resigned to become independents, so even that option went south, that is cretinous behavior & mis representation.
They stood as Reform, promised Reform things, realised it was all too hard, then resigned....

Difficult to have an sort of grown up debate when you are clearly enthralled by Reform...its almost "Cult" worship.... would even be honoured to work for them.... i'll happily criticise Labour.

So what policies don't you support then?

The Reform Councillor who represents my area, is a liar too, he claimed to have put our area onto a priority gritting list, so issues we had recently wont happen again, this is totally untrue, there is no such list, all that can be done is that the area will be looked at again next Autumn (as it is every winter) yet he claimed credit for something that wont happen.... Idiotic behavior as in a few months, he'll be found out.

So Cretinous and Idiotic, not for their policies but their behavior.

The new ex Tory Reform supporters and MPs were continually blocked by the one nation group (who are basically Lib Dem’s or Labour) from achieving anything and most have joined Reform as they believe it’s the only way to get policies in place to save our country. They didn’t mess anything up. The ex greens and Labour supporters may have had other concerns with their parties.
Savings have been extensively documented by Reform. Please refer to their websites.
Would be honoured to work for Reform but sadly haven’t been offered a job and to be honest I don’t 100% support all their policies but believe overall they are our country’s last and only hope.
I had hoped to have a robust debate on policies as it’s a good way to self scrutinise and test Reforms policies but it’s difficult if your response is to call people self serving cretins or a bunch of idiots. Do you really think that because people have different views to you that they are cretins or a bunch of idiots?

My experience of Reform down here are that they are a bunch of self serving cretins, they had overall control but then all left to be Independents and handed it over to the LibDems

When did they have overall control? I remember reading that Reform won 28 seats in the May elections - they were the largest party but needed 44 seats for overall control. The other parties refused to work with Reform so they couldn't form an administration.

Even if they did win. They won't last more than 6 months.

@BeAmberZebra
Not so amazing in Worcestershire, where they are facing bankruptcy (see link in my previous post). Or Leics where they are spending millions on a waste consultant. Or in Notts where they spent £75000 on flags. How on earth is that amazing? Also, they are just recycling the very tories who left the country a mess in the first place.

Hang on, so the people with experience of local & national government, that you're pinning your hopes on, are the same people who messed it up when in other parties....

I thought the whole idea of Reform was to bring in a new broom, not the old broom with a new handle.

Amazing cost savings.... can you link to these please?

My experience of Reform down here are that they are a bunch of self serving cretins, they had overall control but then all left to be Independents and handed it over to the LibDems.... bunch of idiots.

Farage wont ever be PM, he is an agitator thats all, he wont want the work or the scrutiny which will come as we approach the next GE.

Are you sure you re not employed by Reform?

Reform have loads of ex councillors and MPs from various parties with experience of local and national government. They know everything they need to know except precisely how much of a shambles Labour will leave when they finally disappear (for another few decades) although their experience in local government probably gives a strong indication of the problems they will face. As demonstrated clearly with the amazing cost savings achieved they are dealing well with the appalling situation they have inherited in the councils they control. This will stand them in good stead when Nigel becomes our PM.

Give us the Laugh emoji back! 'Proven Farage never a racist'.😂😂😂

I daresay lots of people will vote for Reform. You know, the ones who voted for Brexit and now can’t admit what a shower of shit us leaving the EU has created. They just keep schtum. Perhaps they’d like US style ICE camps? Folk being dragged off the streets reminiscent of 1939 Germany. Reform have no real policies. Farage spouts populist views in his quest to be Man of the People. I’m sure he has no idea where his huge budget would come from although on a brighter note I did hear they were planning to bring back weekly bin collections so that’s something

The Tories did indeed leave most Councils between a rock and a hard place, with no sustainable way of raising enough money to meet their statutory obligations in the long-term.

But Reform were unconsciously incompetent. They didn't know what they didn't know. Now, presumably, they have moved on to the stage of being consciously incompetent - they know what they need to learn.

Reform finding out its not as easy as it looks. And blaming the Conservatives for the lack of magic money tree. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckglgzpkpk1o?at_link_origin=BBC_Hereford_%26_Worcester&at_campaign=Social_Flow&at_bbc_team=editorial&at_link_id=1CBCC43E-0374-11F1-871E-B474A43F27FA&at_format=image&at_ptr_name=facebook_page&at_link_type=web_link&at_campaign_type=owned&at_medium=social&fbclid=IwdGRjcAP4MvNjbGNrA_gytGV4dG4DYWVtAjExAHNydGMGYXBwX2lkDDM1MDY4NTUzMTcyOAABHkbpGEfZ3QD45Or0zhaaYVEvKkvrZmeya-bpbHlSyISCwXT5uJHwgtUtBr20_aem_BX8IetFlapzq6X5pRKfKGg

I thought the argument to bring on board Jenrick and Braverman was that they give Reform "experience" of Government.....

But it appears they are just as lazy and incompetent in Reform as they were in the Tory party.

A 5p cut in alcohol duty on pint of beer does show however that Farage is totally out of touch.
People drink less, pubs have been shutting down at higher rates over the last 15 years than they are now.

Anyone who is serious about saving pubs, had better explain where the billions required is going to come from, as we all seem to hate anyone who increases taxes.....

www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/feb/07/reform-run-kent-council-accused-of-fabricating-40m-net-zero-savings

He's also deafeningly silent on his US mate's rampant racism (referring to the outrageous post depicting the Obamas as apes).

Well we will never know will we. I am just sick of constant witch hunting and lies to bring people down. If you want to believe gossip. You fill your boots.

This happens frequently to MPin all parties. The voting system is antiquated, time consuming absurd. In addition it is sometimes difficult to contact the leader/whip to get information on the party line. MPs need to do this if their party is to be credible.

The amount of times Fartage spouts off about shite and today in the House of Commons he was silent. Wonder why? Oh yes because it was about Epstein!

These two, sticking to their principles (if they could remember what they were) https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/bungling-robert-jenrick-and-suella-braverman-accidentally-vote-to-lift-two-child-benefit-cap_uk_6982e40ce4b07fd36aea943f

You don't have to be working class to value a nice pub! I am definitely not working class, and our family enjoy the open to all comers approach, and a well-kept pint.

Re Farage and Reform: hell will freeze over before I vote for them, but where I place my X is currently something of a dilemma. The choice appears to be between economic illiteracy, conspicuous incompetence and the plainly deranged. With a substantial dose of corruption and grifting, and it's across all parties even if there are honourable exceptions.

You can’t prove a negative. Over 30 of his contemporaries have verified it, it’s looking very much like it definitely happened.