So upset about ICE killings in Minnesota

And the U.K. has to work hand in glove with the US; and many of our British and European ancestors descendants are involved. We share a great deal of culture in common as well as our language.

This is not the case in Iran however true it is that an unbelievably dreadful regime is in power there, and that a thread could be started for discussing it.

No, but people carry guns if they are prepared to use them. Same as with knives. Try telling a British policeman, judge or jury that you are carrying a knife for self defence...

I have family (in a different country) who habitually carry guns. Two family members there have been shot, one died. I've been held at gunpoint twice elsewhere (!!) so I do understand that argument, but if you can't have them you can't use them.

You are promoting an untruth.

well I find it hazard to believe that the US has so quickly degenerated into.a practically fascist regime.Sorry if that offends you !

How is it hard to believe. Humans have been doing this to each other, over and over and over.

Groups of humans always seem to want to feel superior to other humans.

Do you think that immigrants are treated well in the UK?

Immigrants are not being killed in the UK, but they are definitely not treated well. I have seen a lot of white,British superiority going on.

I saw a great quote that said in Nazi Germany a third of the population were happy to.see another third murdered while the remaining third watched.

So hard to believe until you.see the vile comments made by MAGA supporters rejoicing in people being murdered in cold blood.
It is impossible to comprehend the evil .
But unlike Nazi Germany this time around so many people are recording the atrocities that it is impossible to deny the truth no matter how much they try to gaslight people.

God, that's like all the gangs in the UK carrying knives because 'everyone else has them' and it's to 'protect themselves innit'.

I'd say not carrying a loaded weapon in the US <or a knife in this country> is the sensible thing to do.

How does a gun defend against a gun though.

If the other person pulls out a gun, we wouldnt have time to pull out our own gun, before they shoot

My husband is American and has lived in the UK for over 25 years. He is very anti gun but says if he had to live there again he would definitely have a gun just because of the many many nutters who have one. People there don't always have guns because they are pro gun.

If it was happening in our country, would you go to the protest.

I would have fear of being killed, but I think the feeling of wanting to stand up to them would make me go to the protest

Dementia Don has pulled out of the World Health Organisation too. He’s evil incarnate.

Yep, we have to face the reality that, within a democracy, vast swathes of the population actively chose fascism.

It's difficult not to lose all faith in humanity at this point.

I think Vance is worse. And I suspect that he is already pulling a lot of strings behind the scenes. I imagine that Trump is pretty easy to manipulate as long as you keep flattering him and make him think that everything is his own idea.

I'm less than convinced that there will be a swing to the Democrats at the next election. I don't think the current administration will allow that to happen.

I could understand how they turned in their neighbours.

If your own life is at threat, you do it. People were killed for hiding Jews.

I think we're already seeing it tbh.

And while I have been wondering for months why decent Americans haven't been doing more to resist, I'm now starting to recognise a) that many of them have been trying really hard to resist, as we have seen in Minneapolis, and b) why the summary execution of peaceful protesters in the streets might make many people too afraid to resist going forward.

Those who continue to come out on the streets in protest now are really brave. I hope that I would have the courage to do that in their situation, but I guess the reality is that none of us really know how we would react if faced with the reality that is now staring decent US citizens in the face.

It is terrifying to see just how quickly democracy, the rule of law and constitutional checks and balances can collapse. There are lessons here for us all.

When I was a school child in the 90s, learning about fascism and the Holocaust, I didn't understand how the normal people didn't resist, and how they turned in their neighbours, how they ignored the concentration camps just outside town.

Guess we get to see how it happens in real time now.

I totally agree, OP. The murderous ICE needs to be disbanded but Trump is unlikely to do that. He likes this badly trained militia of gung ho thugs. They are very like him really

I think we are seeing the sad (and scarily swift) demise of American democracy, and the rise of a terrifying Trump dictatorship.

The utter fools who continue to sing the praises of Trump, both on here and elsewhere, still do not see this even though it is blindingly obvious. None so blind as those who do not want to see!

The US is no longer anyone's ally. There is no longer any form of "special relationship", except possibly between Trump and Putin and that is worrying.

I'm really hoping for free and fair mid-term elections, though not holding my breath at all. If the results go against Trump then he is likely to claim they were rigged and then there will be carnage of one form or another.

How long before Trump challenges the constitutional amendment that allows only two terms as President? I have been half expecting that and he could still try it.

He's honestly a nightmare and America needs to get rid of him. How though, and who or what replaces him? Vance is no better.

It was the same when Trump was last in power.

At the start there was a lot of noise about making America great again. Then Trump went too crazy, Americans got fed up of him and wanted something else.

It took four years for them to forget.

They voted him again. The cycle starts again.

After this, there will probably be a huge swing to vote for a sensible Democrat candidate. then after four years of a more left wing leadership, the make america great again tribe will raise their heads again.

Why doesn't America ever get out of this Republican/Democrat constnat four year cycle

Same here. That's a brilliant description of what's happening.."dystopian".

I am very far from being a supporter of Trump or right wing parties in general, but he got 77 million votes in 2024, and this time people definitely knew who and what they were voting for given it was a second term.

So I don't think you can dismiss these opinions as not real.

You are mistaken

A man was executed for exercising his 1st and 2nd amendment rights... It's a homicide and I have no idea where this is going to end but I know it isn't good.

What like Trump said ‘musk did amazing things on the computer, he’s amazing like that’ he can and will rig it