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To go LC with PILs because FIL voted for Trump?

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EachotherAndAnother · 24/01/2026 22:52

I've been married for 18 years, two primary-aged DC. My ILs are American. They live about 20 mins drive from us (in the UK). For most of my marriage we've gotten along fine-ish, although I've often felt like they cross a lot of boundaries and have learned to be judicious about how much I open up to them. But they're hospitable and generous - have helped us financially when buying our house, help with the DC in the holidays etc.
They've occasionally made comments that have rubbed me the wrong way, but I've dismissed them as typical boomer nonsense - e.g. the idea that poor people are usually poor because they've make bad choices. They also cautioned their other son (DH's brother), who was planning to (and did) marry a Black woman, that any time a "minority" has married into the family it's ended up causing problems and division. But by and large I keep my conversations with them superficial and manage to rub along ok. The DC adore them.
But - I recently found out that FIL voted for Trump. Any time a controversial issue has come up regarding politics in the US, the conversation gets shut down very quickly, but I had my suspicions and these are now confirmed. And maybe it's ridiculous but I just can't stomach being around them anymore - I'm disgusted that he felt a man like that deserved to be elevated to the role of president and I'm furious about the havoc that is unleashing in the States and elsewhere. I don't want my daughter (in particular, but also not my son) spending time with them, I just feel like they're completely different people from me, with completely different values.
They are oblivious to how I feel and would feel blindsided if I brought it up. We would definitely not be able to have a productive conversation about it. So AIBU to just quietly stop accepting invitations, offers of help etc and gradually distance my family from theirs, or is that a massive overreaction?

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baroqueandblue · 25/01/2026 08:16

Yakacm · 25/01/2026 06:11

In the book 1984 everyone gets together for the 2 minutes hate each day. The figure of hate is a person called Emanuel Goldstein. Orwell was a shrewd man, who had an ability to see thru partisan nonsense. There’s a good argument to be made that Trump is an Emanuel Goldstein character.

Was Emmanuel Goldstein a serial sexual abuser, out of interest? Only, there's scapegoating, and then there's actual misogynistic criminality. So, despite your ambiguous post, I'm guessing you're not claiming the argument that Trump is the illegitimate object of hate, but rather the perspective that argues that Trump himself plays the role of the authoritarian leader (Big Brother) by creating his own "Goldsteins"—using the term "enemies of the people" to describe the press, political opponents, or specific individuals to deflect accountability and unite his base.

Right?

Sadza · 25/01/2026 08:11

Sooo they’re your husbands parents, they’ve given you money, helped with your kids but you don’t like their politics and you judge them as boomers? The world is full of people who hold different views to yours. That’s life. However it’s not full of people who will love your children wholeheartedly. You don’t have to agree with them but surely you can navigate a sensible path through?

littleyellowflowerspotted · 25/01/2026 08:10

I can’t stand this bizarre tribalism that so many seem to subscribe to - e.g ‘if you voted Trump, you’re a bigot’ or closer to home, ‘if you voted Brexit, you’re a racist’. Or any of those combinations.

For most people, their voting is less black and white and more shades of grey. I vote the way I do not because I believe in everything the party stands for but because they are the lesser of two evils. And just because you vote differently to me, doesn’t give you moral superiority.

I’m really surprised that you’d consider separating your children from loving, generous grandparents (and cause all that heartache) over a tick on a ballot sheet and your conclusion that because they voted a certain way, they’re suddenly terrible people.

edwinbear · 25/01/2026 08:09

I don’t think it’s ’dangerous’ to expose children to different political views at all. In fact I think it’s really important they are, so they learn to listen to a breadth of political opinion, discuss them and form their own opinions. Despite many of 16yr old DS’s school mates liking Reform/Farage, he’s been perfectly capable of deciding for himself, that whilst there are a couple of things he might agree with, Reform would be a disaster for the UK. He just rolls his eyes when his mates disagree. What’s actually dangerous is bringing kids up in a political vacuum, where they are taught there is only one ‘correct’ view in our family and you’ll be ostracised for daring to think differently.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 25/01/2026 08:07

baroqueandblue · 25/01/2026 08:03

But it's a thread about people who voted for Trump?

Yes but every time someone expresses an opinion that doesn’t fit the lefty agenda then they must be a trump supporter.

Simonjt · 25/01/2026 08:06

ThatBlackCat · 25/01/2026 07:43

I'm a POC and I don't see how they're racist.

So you’re also okay with people hating their family members for marrying black people?

benten54 · 25/01/2026 08:05

Yakacm · 25/01/2026 06:11

In the book 1984 everyone gets together for the 2 minutes hate each day. The figure of hate is a person called Emanuel Goldstein. Orwell was a shrewd man, who had an ability to see thru partisan nonsense. There’s a good argument to be made that Trump is an Emanuel Goldstein character.

There’s also a much better argument that the ‘woke Democrats’ are Goldstein.

Alittlefrustrated · 25/01/2026 08:05

Bluemin · 25/01/2026 00:24

"Boomer nonsense" is very ageist. Maybe people should avoid you!

I'm not a boomer, but couldn't agree more. Horrible comment from OP.
YABVVU OP to split a family based on politics.
Your sort of attitude is what leads to fractured societies.What is DH's opinion on your plans?
Have you considered you might have more similarities with Trump than you realise? That's what is coming across.

SophieJo · 25/01/2026 08:05

Coconutter24 · 24/01/2026 23:07

Reads like you’re looking for an excuse to go LC and you think this is it. YABU

I agree.

baroqueandblue · 25/01/2026 08:03

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 25/01/2026 07:45

Oh God every time someone expresses an opinion that doesn’t match their own they try to shut it down by claiming “Oh they must be a Trump supporter”.

But it's a thread about people who voted for Trump?

Owly11 · 25/01/2026 08:02

Oh dear I do long for the days when people kept it private information as to who they voted for. If you can't get along with someone who has different views from you then yes, you are being unreasonable. You sound superior and condescending. Perhaps you could learn something from previous generations.

EachotherAndAnother · 25/01/2026 08:01

I appreciate the posters pointing out that voters who don't support identity politics were stuck between a rock and a hard place.

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thepariscrimefiles · 25/01/2026 07:59

ThatBlackCat · 25/01/2026 07:43

I'm a POC and I don't see how they're racist.

Because they willingly and knowingly voted for a racist President.

They also made a derogatory remark about people of colour who married into the family.

EachotherAndAnother · 25/01/2026 07:58

Bringemout · 25/01/2026 07:52

Well OP was fine with the racism, just not voting Trump so I’m surprised given that OP is so morally pure it took this to tip her over the edge.

I wasn't "fine" with the racism. I supported BIL and SIL in the events surrounding that discussion. I just didnt want to write a 3-page long OP detailing every interaction we've had.
But you're right that I didn't cut contact with PILs over it.
I think the Trump issue has just brought a lot of other comments and interactions to a head in my own mind, and I'm trying to figure out what (if anything) to do about it.

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ThatBlackCat · 25/01/2026 07:56

EachotherAndAnother · 25/01/2026 07:52

I don't know if they're racist in all respects. But they tried to dissuade BIL from marrying SIL purely because she's black, and because whenever anyone else in the extended family has married a non-white person, they feel that that person has caused problems in the family dynamic.
I included that in my OP because although it was years ago, and although they are wonderful in so many other ways, that has always stuck with me and I've struggled to move past it.
I should mention that I am mixed-race myself, but they have said they don't think of me as brown because my family is culturally (food, clothing etc) white, and have expressed surprise that I think of myself that way. They have never excluded me from things on the basis of my skin colour.

Ah, ok. That is a worry then.

ThatBlackCat · 25/01/2026 07:55

Kamala as VP sent a congratulatory card to a male in womanface to mark his one year of cosplaying as a woman. Which was (and still is) a kick in the teeth to all women. Imagine her reaction if someone sent Rachel Dolezal or some other person in blackface a card to celebrate them spending one year in blackface. I don't think she would be 'best pleased'. To say the least. People, including leftwing Democrat-voting lesbians saw that. And took note.

And then, voted accordingly.

As I said, Trump being President is solely the fault, blame and on the hands of the Democratic party. They are solely 100% to blame for Trump being President. No one else.

WhyamIinahandcartandwherearewegoing · 25/01/2026 07:53

You can disagree with peoples voting choices (and really that’s between them and the ballot box, none of your business) but to cut contact with them because of it is a bit silly.

FWIW I loathe Trump but just think people who vote for him are a but dense, I wouldn’t feel the need for no contact…

EachotherAndAnother · 25/01/2026 07:52

ThatBlackCat · 25/01/2026 07:43

I'm a POC and I don't see how they're racist.

I don't know if they're racist in all respects. But they tried to dissuade BIL from marrying SIL purely because she's black, and because whenever anyone else in the extended family has married a non-white person, they feel that that person has caused problems in the family dynamic.
I included that in my OP because although it was years ago, and although they are wonderful in so many other ways, that has always stuck with me and I've struggled to move past it.
I should mention that I am mixed-race myself, but they have said they don't think of me as brown because my family is culturally (food, clothing etc) white, and have expressed surprise that I think of myself that way. They have never excluded me from things on the basis of my skin colour.

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Bringemout · 25/01/2026 07:52

Simonjt · 25/01/2026 07:40

I’m surpised by the number of posters who would support a racist relative.

Well OP was fine with the racism, just not voting Trump so I’m surprised given that OP is so morally pure it took this to tip her over the edge.

OonaStubbs · 25/01/2026 07:51

My American relatives have posted "I Stand With ICE" and "ICE ICE Baby" memes on facebook but I would dream of breaking ties with them over it. They are good, decent people who have differing political views than I do.

Bringemout · 25/01/2026 07:50

I think it says something about how intolerance is becoming really normalised. Every election my family all seem to vote for different parties, some voted for brexit, others are were firm remainers, it has never ever been something any one of us would cut the others off for. You can disagree with someone on a lot of stuff and know they are a well intentioned human being nonetheless.

As pp pointed out, you may hold political beliefs they find beyond the pale but they were tolerant enough to help you house yourself and they help you with their children. Maybe their friends should have counselled them to not give you a penny or have anything to do with your children because of your beliefs? Would that have seemed unreasonable to you?

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 25/01/2026 07:45

baroqueandblue · 25/01/2026 06:37

But if the cap fits?

Perhaps Trump's apologists need to develop some 'healthy shame.' (Look it up.)

Oh God every time someone expresses an opinion that doesn’t match their own they try to shut it down by claiming “Oh they must be a Trump supporter”.

ThatBlackCat · 25/01/2026 07:43

Simonjt · 25/01/2026 07:40

I’m surpised by the number of posters who would support a racist relative.

I'm a POC and I don't see how they're racist.

DramaQueenlady · 25/01/2026 07:42

Probably none of your business who they voted for.

ThatBlackCat · 25/01/2026 07:41

Keepingthingsinteresting · 25/01/2026 07:30

Of course she “knows better than them” if what is going on in the US at the moment doesn’t led you to the conclusion Trump is a dangerous megalomanic and every one who voted for him is at best a fool and at worst evil then you are beyond help too.

@EachotherAndAnother I’m really surprised at the vote here, you are absolutely not unreasonable, his views could have a dangerous impact on your kids and teaches your girl she matters less for a whole heap of reasons. Personally I’d give him a piece of my mind then never speak to him again but appreciate a slow fade is probably less dramatic. What does your husband say about his father?

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and teaches your girl she matters less for a whole heap of reasons.

And you don't think the Democrats teach girls, and women, that when they advocate for the removal of womens hard won sex-based spaces and rights? There is a reason Trump played the 'Kamala is for They/Them' ad 10 times more than his other ads in swing states. Even the Democrats' own internal polling shows Gender Ideology was the third reason for Democrat voters turning against them. When the current Dems double down in the Senate and vote to allow men to take womens sports scholarships and medals, what message do you think that sends to young girls? It tells girls we aren't worth shit. That men's 'feelz' come first, and women and girls safety in sports and fair sport comes last.

So don't act like the Democrats are womens friends.