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To go LC with PILs because FIL voted for Trump?

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EachotherAndAnother · 24/01/2026 22:52

I've been married for 18 years, two primary-aged DC. My ILs are American. They live about 20 mins drive from us (in the UK). For most of my marriage we've gotten along fine-ish, although I've often felt like they cross a lot of boundaries and have learned to be judicious about how much I open up to them. But they're hospitable and generous - have helped us financially when buying our house, help with the DC in the holidays etc.
They've occasionally made comments that have rubbed me the wrong way, but I've dismissed them as typical boomer nonsense - e.g. the idea that poor people are usually poor because they've make bad choices. They also cautioned their other son (DH's brother), who was planning to (and did) marry a Black woman, that any time a "minority" has married into the family it's ended up causing problems and division. But by and large I keep my conversations with them superficial and manage to rub along ok. The DC adore them.
But - I recently found out that FIL voted for Trump. Any time a controversial issue has come up regarding politics in the US, the conversation gets shut down very quickly, but I had my suspicions and these are now confirmed. And maybe it's ridiculous but I just can't stomach being around them anymore - I'm disgusted that he felt a man like that deserved to be elevated to the role of president and I'm furious about the havoc that is unleashing in the States and elsewhere. I don't want my daughter (in particular, but also not my son) spending time with them, I just feel like they're completely different people from me, with completely different values.
They are oblivious to how I feel and would feel blindsided if I brought it up. We would definitely not be able to have a productive conversation about it. So AIBU to just quietly stop accepting invitations, offers of help etc and gradually distance my family from theirs, or is that a massive overreaction?

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itsthetea · 25/01/2026 09:44

I think LC and NC are differnt

low contact - fine - we don’t have to go out of our way to be with people we don’t like

no contact - not so good

SabrinaCarpetCleaner · 25/01/2026 09:41

EachotherAndAnother · 25/01/2026 07:52

I don't know if they're racist in all respects. But they tried to dissuade BIL from marrying SIL purely because she's black, and because whenever anyone else in the extended family has married a non-white person, they feel that that person has caused problems in the family dynamic.
I included that in my OP because although it was years ago, and although they are wonderful in so many other ways, that has always stuck with me and I've struggled to move past it.
I should mention that I am mixed-race myself, but they have said they don't think of me as brown because my family is culturally (food, clothing etc) white, and have expressed surprise that I think of myself that way. They have never excluded me from things on the basis of my skin colour.

Sounds more like they made a clumsy approach to their experience of culture clash, as opposed to skin colour? Parents wishing to see their child marry within their own culture is still relatively common I think (rightly or wrongly).

As for Trump, I find attitudes towards him quite fascinating. I think he's gaffe prone and incredibly arrogant, however he also has his finger on the pulse of those who voted for him.

You've said your FIL doesn't want to discuss his choices at the ballot box, which tells us he isn't of the with or against me persuasion. Thus, if you otherwise get along with him, it would seem silly to cut him out of your life.

EachotherAndAnother · 25/01/2026 09:37

Thank you. Lots of helpful insight here - I can't reply to everyone individually.

Soke excellent points about what I'm modelling to my children about how to deal with disagreement / people who disagree with you. I hadn't considered that going LC would be adopting the same "everyone has to agree with me" approach that my ILs had with their family (and that DH so resents) rather than the more open-minded "everything is up for discussion" approach that I admire in my own parents. So it's useful to have that blindspot illuminated.

Also helpful for me to consider my own intolerance of people who believe differently to me - food for thought.

And helpful perspective about the permanence of fractured family relationships vs the temporary nature of a presidential term.

To answer a couple of points, I don't think FIL voted Republican because he disagrees with identity politics. I don't actually think that's a major issue for him. I think the Republican rhetoric around immigration, race, abortion etc aligns with his worldview. I don't know whether he is in agreement with current events, ICE etc as we don't discuss it. And while I see the benefit in not discussing it, it would help settle my discomfort if he said "this isn't what I voted for, or what I wanted".

Regarding DH's opinion, he is appalled at what is happening in America and at one point mentioned renouncing his citizenship (but quickly realised that would be a massive overreaction with no meaningful impact). He was really upset to discover his dad had voted for Trump not once but twice, but wouldn't reduce contact on that basis.

I think my difficulty is around at what point "different views" become unacceptable. If he was a Nazi sympathiser and his house was full of Nazi memorabilia, it would be an easy decision to cut contact. Or if he started saying that he thought paedophilia was acceptable. But he's far from those views and I'm not blinkered enough to suggest otherwise. But many of his views are really abhorrent to me. I struggle with knowing how and when to assert boundaries at the best of times, and I'm starting to wonder at what point would I be tipped over into "this is unacceptable to me". Perhaps this isn't it, I don't know.

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Lovelyview · 25/01/2026 09:37

It sounds like your FIL doesn't actually want to discuss politics op. It's ok to have a relationship with a relative where you don't. My darling grandmother voted Conservative (Margaret Thatcher) while I was a complete lefty and once said - when asked what she would change about the BBC - she.wouldnt have so many black presenters on children's tv. That was an OMG moment. I still loved her very much. She was kind and generous and supported us in our interests. She was unfailingly polite to everyone whatever their heritage. We just didn't discuss politics.

Miranda65 · 25/01/2026 09:34

I'm not a Trump supporter, but if you believe in democracy, OP, then you accept that people have the right to vote for whoever they choose. I know that I have friends who would always vote differently to me, and that's fine. I really don't understand people who say "I could never be friends with a [insert name of party] voter.
Our differences are what makes life interesting, after all!

MaybeThisTimeILlbeLucky · 25/01/2026 09:29

Tough one op but unless he's dominating conversations then just ignore .

If he's actively not wanting to talk politics go with that
My pils are extremely narrow minded on politics think homeless people choose to be there etc but that's not why we are low contact.

I wasn't scared of my children hearing those views because we as parents have already covered homeless people and so on.
And at the end of the day I can't force my DC nor want to...what to think.

We went low contact because of their behaviours and attitudes to DH and us

olympicsrock · 25/01/2026 09:28

Their Christian evangelist and racist views would be enough for me to go low contact without the Trump issue.

I would have an issue with them spending time around my children if they voiced these views.

OnlyFrench · 25/01/2026 09:27

Presumably they managed to raise a decent man in your husband? Surely you have enough influence over your kids to not let them be influenced by their grandparents’ politics? As a child in the sixties/seventies I heard my gran use some pretty unsavoury language about black people but I managed to not join the National Front.

DisforDarkChocolate · 25/01/2026 09:23

So very obvious racist views weren't enough to limit control but this is?

redboxer321 · 25/01/2026 09:21

Western democracy is a con on the people. Perhaps you can think of him as someone who has simply been conned not only by Trump but by the entire political system and the ruling classes.

Dgll · 25/01/2026 09:10

You can't really take the moral high ground if you write 'typical boomer nonsense' just accept that you all have your own special prejudices and unpalatable views and don't let Trump ruin your family life.

ThatBlackCat · 25/01/2026 09:09

Simonjt · 25/01/2026 08:06

So you’re also okay with people hating their family members for marrying black people?

Where did OP say they 'hate' family members? I think you are reading a lot into it.

baroqueandblue · 25/01/2026 09:01

FerrisWheelsandLilacs · 25/01/2026 08:37

Ah okay - deadly racism is bad, deadly homophobia and misogyny is good.

Thanks, I’ll write that down and remember it next time I need to vote.

Misogyny is a prejudice I thought too obvious to mention, given the fact that Trump is a serial sexual abuser. Of women.

ETA : And I'm gay, so I reserve the right to assume my oppression under the Republicans' hateful ideology is also taken as read.

HopingForTheBest25 · 25/01/2026 08:53

They're not your family but they are your children's! You say later that you don't intend to keep your children from them, but in your OP you say you don't want your kids to spend time with them. I think your OP is your true feeling.
While you have the right to not see them, you don't really have the right to deny your children access to loving, kind grandparents.
I often disagreed with my dad's opinions but I would just say to my kids that people have different beliefs and explain my own pov.

You say they help you with childcare and money - are you planning to return what they've given you financially? Since they are so offensive to you.

Waitingforthesunnydays · 25/01/2026 08:45

EachotherAndAnother · 25/01/2026 07:28

Some very helpful and clear-headed responses on this thread, so thank you.

I apologise for saying "typical boomer nonsense" - that was ageist and ignorant as many have pointed out. My own parents are boomers and hold very different views, so if I'd thought about that phrasing for two seconds I wouldn't have used it.

To clarify a few things, I wouldn't keep the grandkids from them. I would just decline most invitations myself - DH and the DC would go. I don't like the idea of the DC being exposed to their views (see the previous comments about "minorities", poor people etc), but I suppose they will encounter them elsewhere anyway and it's my job to teach the alternative.

I don't know whether FIL still supports Trump. He shuts down any conversations that look like they're heading that way. (Or any conversations where the other person disagrees with him - hence me saying we wouldn't be able to have a productive conversation.) I grew up in a home where all issues and views were open for discussion, and many dinnertimes included a debate about some issue or other. DH said that growing up in his home was very "everyone toes the party line", "this is what we believe in our family". Just different family dynamics I suppose.

To those asking what DH thinks, he feels very disenfranchised (? possibly not the right word) from his parents. He loves them and believes they are good people but feels that he was brainwashed as a child into the views of evangelical American Christianity, and resents that aspect of his upbringing.

To those talking about "liberals", that's not really a thing in the UK (yet!) as our politics aren't quite as polarised as in the States (yet!) So I lean left on many issues, and right on some.

Anyway, thank you for all the comments and insight. It seems that most believe IABU, and that outside perspective is what I came here for so that's helpful.

Posted my reply before reading your update sorry. I think your FIL has the right idea about shutting down any conversation about politics. Theres no point, you’ll just end up in an argument. Can’t you just ignore the topic completely and keep the conversation light? I’d get not wanting to be around him if he was banging on about Trump all the time but if he’s actively avoiding the subject then he might be bearable to be around?

BadSkiingMum · 25/01/2026 08:44

I think Trump is abhorrent and should probably be serving time, although I do rather admire that he never raises his voice. When he gets angry he just says even more hostile or offensive things in exactly the same tone.

You are not taking into account that US politics is so different. Millions of people probably voted Republican for personal, local, state, economic or ideological reasons, rather than voting for Trump per se. There is no alternative to the two main parties on the right, centre or left for that matter.

FerrisWheelsandLilacs · 25/01/2026 08:37

baroqueandblue · 25/01/2026 05:54

The Democrats have embraced identity politics to such a degree that they’ve alienated many ‘average’ people...The idea that anyone who voted Republican somehow embodies all the Republicans soundbites (guns/anti abortion/Church) is clearly not the case.

You forgot to put racism and xenophobia between your neat little brackets. (Not to mention a few other deadly prejudices, but let's not split hairs.)

That's unhinged. Shame on you.

Ah okay - deadly racism is bad, deadly homophobia and misogyny is good.

Thanks, I’ll write that down and remember it next time I need to vote.

Waitingforthesunnydays · 25/01/2026 08:30

You’re overreacting. If everyone dismissed any family with different political beliefs to their own then no one would have any family left. You haven’t mentioned how your DH feels about it - if I was him I’d be fuming you were considering trying to deprive my kids of their grandparents (and take the kids away from my parents) just cos you disagree with their political beliefs. It’s selfish. You’re also teaching your kids that any time you disagree with someone else’s beliefs you should just cut them off. Not exactly preparing your kids for the real world or teaching them resilience.

luckylavender · 25/01/2026 08:26

PixieDust91 · 24/01/2026 22:55

77 million Americans voted for President Trump. If you can't keep a decent relationship with someone because of politics, they don't need a fickle person like you in their life.

There’s politics & there’s Trump. I would feel the same OP

ElectoralControversy · 25/01/2026 08:24

I do strongly suspect the poster you mentioned is a bot though but presumably that accusation is banned
Very extreme views presented in a very aggressive way with only insults to opposing views.

ElectoralControversy · 25/01/2026 08:23

GCAcademic · 24/01/2026 23:01

A tad hypocritical given that your shouting and screaming and insulting posters on another thread suggests that you can't control your temper around anyone who doesn't share your political views.

Yup this
Don't know how much has been deleted since last night, but if you're going to post CAPS LOCK insults to 'liberals' all over one thread then come on another and try to convince us trump voters are sane and reasonable, you could at least have the wit to name change first.

PortSalutPlease · 25/01/2026 08:22

PixieDust91 · 24/01/2026 22:55

77 million Americans voted for President Trump. If you can't keep a decent relationship with someone because of politics, they don't need a fickle person like you in their life.

It’s not politics to not want to be around people who support rapists and paedophiles.

LittleBearPad · 25/01/2026 08:20

Sadza · 25/01/2026 08:11

Sooo they’re your husbands parents, they’ve given you money, helped with your kids but you don’t like their politics and you judge them as boomers? The world is full of people who hold different views to yours. That’s life. However it’s not full of people who will love your children wholeheartedly. You don’t have to agree with them but surely you can navigate a sensible path through?

Excellent post

LittleBearPad · 25/01/2026 08:19

Simonjt · 25/01/2026 08:06

So you’re also okay with people hating their family members for marrying black people?

Nowhere does it say this is the case.

thepariscrimefiles · 25/01/2026 08:17

EachotherAndAnother · 25/01/2026 08:01

I appreciate the posters pointing out that voters who don't support identity politics were stuck between a rock and a hard place.

The majority of posters on here seem perfectly comfortable with a President that enables the kidnapping of a five year old little boy in a hat with bunny ears and the cold blooded, deliberate murder of two US citizens by ICE as the lesser of two evils.

If your PILs still support Trump and his government after recent events, I couldn't be in the same room as them.