To go LC with PILs because FIL voted for Trump?

Human decency is all about where you draw your red lines.

We did know he'd go after abortion rights. We knew from his previous term it was likely treatment of ectopic pregnancies would become illegal in some states, meaning for some pregnancy would become a death sentence.

We knew it was likely he'd reduce environmental protection and increase the risk of life altering damage to the environment in our children's life times.

We knew he'd go after the rights of non white Americans, not to the extent he has, but we knew.

We knew he'd go after affordable health care, meaning more people would die and die bankrupt.

I've never fallen out with someone over politics. My father in law voted for the BNP and he knew my thoughts on that but I could still talk to him. But when the death penalty is being considered for abortion (and by extension miscarriage), people are being disappeared including children and people are executed in the street for just videoing then red lines become important. Some debates you just can't respect the person on the other side enough to continue a relationship with them.

And if they explained why, and it turned out that their reasons were nothing but blatant racism and an utter disregard for anything other than their own perceived self interest, then what? You would "tolerate" them because you are apparently mature enough to recognise that everyone's opinions are shaped by their own unique life experience?

Or you would "influence" them? How exactly? And what would you do if you realised that your attempts to influence them weren't actually getting through?

If 50% of people in this country started voting for a new Hitler, then honestly, I wouldn't be sticking around to hear them pontificating on the reasons for their hatred and bigotry - you absolutely cannot reason with people like that. I would just be be focused on getting the hell out, and then supporting the resistance from afar.

Please stop thinking all Boomers are racist twats. I can assure you we are NOT.

It's an interesting one where politics has become so extreme.

My dad voted Brexit and Reform. He doesn't like Trump but is a huge fan of Farage who loves Trump so I'm not sure how that works. My cleaner is American and voted Trump. They both express broad anti-immigration sentiments.

But if you give them any individual in need they would both help that person/ welcome them into their home/ feed them. My mum teaches English to refugees.

I can't figure out the inconsistencies so don't try to.

Look, if someone I’m close to posted right wing bollox on social media, I’d seek first to understand - then influence. This has been a successful approach for me.

same if someone I was close to from US was voting trump. Often as I say it’s down to life exp. And exposure.

some of us have privilege of diverse exposure, news, travel, education that others don’t

its doesn’t make you better than them or more moral.

pretending that it does leads to division- which is the thing you are against right?

seek to understand and then influence.

if 50% of the UK started voting for a new hitler how would cutting them all off help?

I think we forget that Boomers are the generation who marched for civil rights, who brought us the fire and social change of the 60s and 70s and brought us abortion rights, maternity rights etc.

You're hiding? I really don't know why families talk to each other about politics. He can vote for whoever he sees fit. He is holding his vote that he's entitled to.

Yes you are very unreasonable. You say these people are kind and generous and that your children adore them, that is the important thing.

My in-laws have slightly dodgy (Reform) political views which they are perfectly entitled to hold. I have learned, for the sake of my blood pressure, over the years to not talk politics with them. You married into this family, you cannot just remove the grandchildren on these grounds, it's cruel.

By the way, my DC even after being exposed to the in-laws views for many years, are politically left wing and hate Trumpism. It's not catching.

No, I'm not based in the US, but I have close friends who are. They are beside themselves and believe that Trump is a fascist. And all of the evidence seems to back them up.

And yes, there is support for Trump in the US. So what? There were Germans that voted for the Nazis. Does that mean that we should have "tolerated" Hitler?

I honestly don't know why anyone is so intent on minimising what is going on in the US right now. What will it take to make them realise that this isn't simply about a difference of opinions?

I live in a very multicultural town, with many people who have relatives and friends in Iran. Most of whom, mainly amongst the older people, are totally against the protests. Surprised me, but that seems to be the reality.

are you even based in the US though?
People are polarised on him over there but ultimately he gets support. In any room in the UK he is almost universally hated.

You must understand. Politics is based on lived experience. In the UK there is a widely accepted anti trump agenda to the extent that he is suing the BBC.

Over in the US, Fox News and other outlets are pro trump a lot of the news outlets are.

news influences and effects who people vote for.

Honestly, I used to feel as strongly about people who voted Tory. Part of maturity is realising people have had different exposures and those exposures impact belief.

Surely it’s better to be tolerant, have intellectual debate and challenge thinking? Especially if someone’s only news source is Fox News.

I don’t value cutting off people with different ethnicities, religions or, importantly BELIEF. I think that is decisive and not beneficial to society.

I have family who voted for Trump politics is just not discussed with them

family friends who you would never ever think are Trump supporters again politics not up for discussion or subject avoided

people voted for him for different reasons and some would always vote Republican

I do not agree with their reasoning and some are totally lost to all the conspiracy nonsense, it’s always in the background in American politics a fear of communism style politics impacting policies, has been around for years but just exploded under Trump

my aunt and uncle are good kind people just their politics (and wanting to protect their hard earned money) is off in my view

It was clear as to what Trump was prior to the election. Perhaps I could just about forgive someone for voting them in if they realised now what they had done and deeply regretted it. But it doesn't sound like that's the case.

I absolutely judge anyone who voted in Trump for the second time, and I wouldn't want to associate with any of them.

There couldn't have been any doubt at that point about who he was and what he stood for.

You can associate with whoever you like. Some of us have basic standards.

Peoples opinions and political beliefs are shaped by life experience. There is often a generational gap.

Trump voting- whatever you believe, he got voted in so most of a country voted for him. Are you so arrogant (political beliefs aside) that you believe you are superior, and in every way so much more moral than more than 50% of the American population to the extent that you should not even associate with them? Because that’s what you’re saying.

I might go LC for the racist comment about marrying a minority as that’s awful. But that doesn’t see to have bothered you as much - strangely. So, YABU.

You have a point. I guess I would see a difference between an evangelical Trump supporter, who used instances of contact to push his agenda, and someone who voted for what they saw as the better option out of two parties and preferred not to discuss their political leanings?

Conversations about politics often tell you who people really are and what they stand for. I don't think there is any reason why they should be avoided.

And yes, these are her husband's parents. I usually think that people are far too quick to go LC or NC with family members. But where do you draw the line? Would you really turn a blind eye to someone who actively supports a fascist leader?

There's a reason conversations around politics are said to be avoided, so you don't fall out with people you otherwise generally get along with :). More importantly though, these are your husband's parents. This is not a reason to cause that kind of family rupture, unless he decides the situation is untenable?

You'd be very foolish to live your life like this, cutting off people you disagree with.

The key to a cohesive society is tolerance and communication.

Stereotyping groups into woke and boomer plays into the hands of the powerful and the wealthy who don't want the majority of society to look their way and realise that they are issue, hoarding both money and power.

Be a role model, be fair and judicious and accepting that maybe not all Trump voters are aligned with everything he does and says. You'll have far more impact in a far more beneficial way if you take the higher road.

You’re comfortable accepting their financial support, but you’re considering going low contact over their differing opinions, even though they haven’t treated you badly. That feels like a contradiction and is extremely fickle

I'm surprised you've gone this long without reducing contact with them, tbh.

I'm LC with mine because of their racism and xenophobia.

I expect she only has principles when she’s not out of pocket

Yanbu but how will you pay back the tainted money to them?

Hard to see how you could live in a trump voter funded house but not go for tea with them once a month

Well I’m currently hiding upstairs from FIL who is visiting for the day after he declared happily that he is voting reform and that he doesn’t care that if they were in charge we’d potentially lose our benefits and SEND education funding and NHS health care for our disabled children. So I have sympathy OP.

Silly . You don’t have to agree with them but it’s your husbands family fgs .