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Are all fathers creepy?

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Alex122022 · 24/01/2026 15:48

My experience in a different thread (on swimming pool changing room etiquette) has been quite interesting: there seems to be a widely shared opinion that all men are creeps and there are never any innocent explanations for their behaviour.

While I completely agree that a father in a women's changing room - especially when there are older girls - is inappropriate, I can easily see how this could happen without any ulterior motive. Be it simply ignorance or lack of judgement.

I experienced the same on playgrounds: playing hide & seek with my daughter? Mothers approach my DW and tell her that "a perv" is watching the children. Playing with DD - well meaning mothers asking her whether she is ok or needs help.

AIBU to think this is a bit excessive?

OP posts:
usedtobeaylis · 24/01/2026 16:54

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 24/01/2026 16:49

Maybe their experiences are that of men being so useless or predatory that they can’t leave a baby with them. That’s not my experience as my dad and my DH were/are hands on and trustworthy. I am able to acknowledge that I am lucky with this rather than in the majority.

It seems to so beyond understanding that those feelings are based on real life experiences. They're a direct reaction to how men behave.

WritingTheBook · 24/01/2026 16:54

I think everyone should give Alex a Biscuit for his journey back to wherever he came from.

Alex122022 · 24/01/2026 16:54

District66 · 24/01/2026 16:53

Simply did not think …. Try using that as your defence in court and let me know how you get on
Adults (female mainly) are required to think. And if they don’t, there are consequences

Which court? The man in question most likely didn't do anything illeag.

OP posts:
Laiste · 24/01/2026 16:54

Oopsylazy · 24/01/2026 16:53

Don’t let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya! 😂

🤣

AgnesMcDoo · 24/01/2026 16:53

Of course not.

WhoDecidedImAnAdultImNotQualified · 24/01/2026 16:53

Alex122022 · 24/01/2026 16:51

I never thought that women are so gullible that they can be "rage baited" - and fortunately this thread restored my believe that this actually true.

But could you please tell me what "MRA" means?

You know your little incel buddies, the ones you talk about mean and nasty women with, because they have thoughts and opinions of their own and dont fawn all over you, well, as a collective you're MRAs.

HTH

Laiste · 24/01/2026 16:53

Men really don't care when they're not wanted do they? They just dig their heels in ....

Letsgo2026 · 24/01/2026 16:53

I think it’s a case of “Better safe than sorry”.
I would always rather err on side of caution where my DC are concerned.

As a parent I’d support that - it’s good for children to think stranger danger about me if I’m a stranger for example, and I would never get offended about that.

District66 · 24/01/2026 16:53

Simply did not think …. Try using that as your defence in court and let me know how you get on
Adults (female mainly) are required to think. And if they don’t, there are consequences

Oopsylazy · 24/01/2026 16:53

Laiste · 24/01/2026 16:52

Don't let the door hit your arse on the way out ....

Don’t let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya! 😂

FailMeOnce · 24/01/2026 16:53

Oopsylazy · 24/01/2026 16:52

Biscuit

This.

WonderingWanda · 24/01/2026 16:52

Alex122022 · 24/01/2026 15:48

My experience in a different thread (on swimming pool changing room etiquette) has been quite interesting: there seems to be a widely shared opinion that all men are creeps and there are never any innocent explanations for their behaviour.

While I completely agree that a father in a women's changing room - especially when there are older girls - is inappropriate, I can easily see how this could happen without any ulterior motive. Be it simply ignorance or lack of judgement.

I experienced the same on playgrounds: playing hide & seek with my daughter? Mothers approach my DW and tell her that "a perv" is watching the children. Playing with DD - well meaning mothers asking her whether she is ok or needs help.

AIBU to think this is a bit excessive?

No one has ever suggested my dh os a perv for playing with my dd. I don't automatically assume all men are.

Laiste · 24/01/2026 16:52

Don't let the door hit your arse on the way out ....

Oopsylazy · 24/01/2026 16:52

Alex122022 · 24/01/2026 16:51

I never thought that women are so gullible that they can be "rage baited" - and fortunately this thread restored my believe that this actually true.

But could you please tell me what "MRA" means?

Biscuit
VoltaireMittyDream · 24/01/2026 16:51

My father was a creep, and was also volubly indignant about women treating him with suspicion.

He used to go on all the time about how sexist it was that he couldn’t go into the women’s toilets to change my nappy, and how if women weren’t OK with this then how could they possibly expect equal rights / equal opportunities, etc.

He viewed all women with utter contempt and preyed on his vulnerable female students.

Alex122022 · 24/01/2026 16:51

WhoDecidedImAnAdultImNotQualified · 24/01/2026 16:48

Nope, you're problem is being bored and entitled enough to be coming on here to rage bait women so you can cry about it to your little MRA buddies for attention later.

Edited

I never thought that women are so gullible that they can be "rage baited" - and fortunately this thread restored my believe that this actually true.

But could you please tell me what "MRA" means?

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Oopsylazy · 24/01/2026 16:50

I haven’t read the thread you’ve posted - but why would any man be in the women’s changing room in the first place?

Of course people will assume he’s a creep, so if he doesn’t like that he should get some bloody self awareness.

I don’t have any sympathy for a man who is labelled a creep, whether he is or not - he shouldn’t be there in the first place making women uncomfortable.

The man’s entitlement is the problem.

I mean look at you on here OP (assume you’re a man?) telling women they’re wrong for assuming a man in the female changing rooms is a creep 🤷‍♀️

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 24/01/2026 16:49

BubblesandTiara · 24/01/2026 16:45

I agree they can, but the reaction from some women was and still is ridiculous.
There are many women who are clearly convinced childcare is a female setting.

Comments on another thread from women who are horrified anyone could leave a baby with his own father are depressing

Maybe their experiences are that of men being so useless or predatory that they can’t leave a baby with them. That’s not my experience as my dad and my DH were/are hands on and trustworthy. I am able to acknowledge that I am lucky with this rather than in the majority.

WritingTheBook · 24/01/2026 16:49

Not all men are bad, but this one is.

Alex122022 · 24/01/2026 16:49

Laiste · 24/01/2026 16:44

Can you find some statistics showing a woman being a threat to a man in a male changing room? In anyway?

So funny. It's clear what you are OP.

Toddle off Alex.

Edited

Learn to read. The statement did not limit the threat to changing rooms but referred to men in general.

Toddle off yourself.

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usedtobeaylis · 24/01/2026 16:48

I don't think there's any excuse for men, particularly fathers, to be ignorant about the potential impact of their own behaviour. I don't believe there isn't a man alive who wouldn't think the changing room situation is inappropriate. Its not ignorance, it's entitlement. When men start holding each other to account, maybe then I'll have a bit more sympathy.

Actually on the subject I have seen men and women validate men who don't have access to changing facilities for their children to enter women's toilets with changing facilities without so much a by your leave. Sometimes someone advocates for an 'I'm coming in'. Never once have I read anyone advocate for a knock on the door, an explanation, and a consensus. That's the kind of thing that feeds into that entitlement. Its directly comparable actually.

WhoDecidedImAnAdultImNotQualified · 24/01/2026 16:48

Alex122022 · 24/01/2026 16:46

The "men are threats" statement was not restricted to changing room. Imprecise language is not really my problem.

Nope, you're problem is being bored and entitled enough to be coming on here to rage bait women so you can cry about it to your little MRA buddies for attention later.

WritingTheBook · 24/01/2026 16:48

Gotta love the mansplaining.

Ladies, a man is here, know your place.

RichardOnslowRoper · 24/01/2026 16:48

RedToothBrush · 24/01/2026 16:45

You were told

NO

on the other thread.

You've started a thread about a thread to try and get women to agree with you.

This answer is still NO men should not be allowed in female changing rooms, cos there are naked girls going through puberty in them.

Men who don't get the message that this is creepy behaviour are by defintion creepy.

This is not saying all fathers are creepy. Its saying that men that disregard women saying no and don't think girls should have privacy and dignity which is their legal right under the Equality Act are abusive pricks and that men who think they are entitled to use female changing rooms are creepy fuckers.

I hope this clarifies things further since you didn't get the message first time around.

We might have to make a sign with crayons in capitals to.get across that:
No, not all dads are creepy
Dads who insist on barging into women's changing rooms probably are
Anyone who thinks women are the predatory sex can fuck off.

RedToothBrush · 24/01/2026 16:47

user1460471313 · 24/01/2026 16:41

It’s not just fathers that seem to receive this treatment. Apparently I am not allowed to bring my autistic 10 year old son into the woman’s changing room With me because he might pose a threat. Never mind the threat that he might come across as a child alone in the male changing room

He's disabled.

Thats what the disabled changing are for.

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