Are all fathers creepy?

Agree. If you’re worried about your son in the men’s changing area, then you need to find a way to manage through family changing, disabled changing, dry robes etc. it isn’t fair that you make girls uncomfortable in their designated area. While I have every sympathy for the difficult situation you are in, it needs to be addressed with pool management etc rather than making girls uncomfortable. Do they not have disabled changing you can use? Definitely raise with management.

I think an awful lot of women are bored of men who are shocked that men as a whole are seen as creeps by women but seem to think it’s not men’s fault.

The answer isn’t in you understanding and being educated at this point. If you are old enough to have a daughter you will have witnessed men harassing women many times. You will most likely have done it a few times and you will have been near friends and colleagues while they do it quite a lot. You need to change that culture. Once you’ve started on that journey you’ll have something to talk about on here.

It’s like the bear analogy.

Women: we’d choose the bear
Men: fucking bitches, I hope you get eaten, fuck you
Women:

Why would a man choose to take his daughter into the woman’s changing room? Because he doesn’t want men seeing her naked. I don’t see how that means it’s okay for everything woman and girl in the woman’s changing room to be seen by a man. And I don’t believe a man would be that clueless as to not realise it’s inappropriate.

The park scenario sounds like it was either a weird person or you were acting weird. I don’t think many people would see a man playing with their kid in the park and make a comment like that.

For the changing rooms - yes they should have better facilities. There’s a lot of places with a separate changing area now. Even so it’s easy to work around it. I don’t think I’ve ever used a public changing table because they’re normally gross. You can change them in the pram or in a cubicle if they’re old enough to stand.

When you have boy babies not even lesbianism is a hopeful option

Yes, please do let is know how your imaginary daughter gets on trusting all men, even the ones pushing boundries by being in her spaces, even the one who disregard her feelings, even the ones every instinct in her screams out to distrust, but her dad brought her up to trust men rather than herself so she minimises her feelings for the sake of random men.

I hear that goes really well for women generally.

It’s not because your son in particular is regarded as a threat or a pervert. It’s because girls and women have a right to change away from boys and men, and that right trumps your son’s in this situation. Because it’s the female changing room. Do you think a 10yo girl should have to suck up her embarrassment and get changed in front of your son? He’ll still be disabled at 15 - should girls put up with him in their changing room then?

I've reported him. Twat

Absolutely not.

Not exactly the same but my brothers wife died and he bought up the new born baby, when my niece was 7 she was doing a Ballet performance, he just innocently went back stage to collect her (when all parents told to do so by the Ballet teacher) some girls were getting changed behind screens, he quickly left, a couple of mothers weren't happy but all he was doing was getting his daughter.

He always said to me, not in anyway in relation to the above incident "Its a Womans World bring up a child in the UK, they say they want dads to be more involved but they moment they are, they don't like it and feel threatened"

Lives in Sweden now, they simply do not have these debates about how "creepy" men are, his Swedish wife's argument is this "UK mothers bought up these men...."

Or change the percentage so that not so many men revere creepy behaviour

or pray she’s lesbian

Creepy sleazy male poster tries to convince us not all men are creepy sleazy wankers
not quite the win he thinks it is

Op you came on here and asked a not very innocent question of all the women, we all answered the same way, and you don't want to take the answer

I'm pretty sure that somewhere up thread you made a comment that women are a threat too?

There was a thread earlier in the week saying that men should stay off this site, and fwiw I agree .

And, I have both girls and boy children. Both their father and I have ALWAYS stuck to the changing room or toilet appropriate to our sex. Our children have made their own way into the changing room or toilet appropriate to their sex from the age of around 8 upwards. There have been no rapes, no assaults. They aren't damaged from seeing male appendages in a changing room.

And no, it is not for women to solve this problem. If you don't want to take your dd into the male changing room, do something about the male changing room, do not barge into ours.

Our local swimming pools have mixed changing areas with individual cubicles. I find this uncomfortable. I'm probably old fashioned.

Not all fathers are creepy, but the ones who hang out in female changing rooms definitely are. My DH would never ever consider going into a female changing room. He knows it’s inappropriate and wouldnt even want to.

As women, we don’t need an easy way to tell whether a man is creepy or not. We can sense it a mile away. We have grown up since puberty being leered at by creepy men on an almost daily basis.

Nope! Still posting on the other thread.

I agree, @ToadRage

I wouldn't like a man in a womans changing room, but it wouldn't occur to me intervene if a father was playing with their child. I think in terms of old-fashioned values some women think that dads don't play with their daughters or that its a Mum's job, but I loved playing with my Dad when I was a kid, he worked a lot so the occasions we got to play together were all the more special. There is nothing wrong with being a hands-on Dad and I bet your daughter adores you.

Not all men are creeps imo but I do think that changing alongside girls from other families is very inappropriate.

He’s gone quiet. I hoping he’s gone. 🤞

I know

At what age will you not want to bring your son into the female changing room?

It certainly doesn't mean that 98% of men commit sexual offences thats why i said 98% of offences were committed by men.
But the risk of being sexually assaulted by a man is far greater than the risk of being assaulted by a woman.