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Elder daughter father giving rules about my younger kids

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Dazedandconfusec · 24/01/2026 12:04

My elder daughter is 12 and Grade 5 piano and flute and began guitar in an afterschool club at school last year. She gave up violin when the teacher moved house but still has two violins which she occasionally gets out.

My ex has facilitated her music and has bought all of the instruments and paid for lessons but I obviously had to facilitate the lessons for flute; the piano teacher comes to the house.

My younger daughter elder daughter’s half sister, has now started piano at school. Elder daughter has locked piano as her dad has instructed that my younger children cannot use the piano or have use of the other instruments.

OP posts:
localnotail · 24/01/2026 21:54

I love how people defend blended families... they obviously work so well. The older girl is obviously brought up not to see her younger siblings as her equals, or even family, by the look of it. What a mess.

I would get the fucking expensive piano out of my house and get the one everyone can use (I cant even imagine what that piano is, if its so expensive?) But it looks like OP is happy to support the older DC's idea that she is special and her younger siblings are not.

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 24/01/2026 21:45

I think OP you can do the “my house my rules” - a piano kept in a communal room is for everyone to use. You can insist it’s just for lessons or supervised practice for now for dc2, but tell your dd that her dad doesn’t get to dictate what happens in your home. If he doesn’t want the piano used by all the household members then he can remove it. But you won’t tolerate anyone other than your and your DH making the household rules and certainly not your 12 deciding what happens.

DD1 has to give you the key.

tell your ex that you don’t think he was trying to control what happens in your household or deliberately cause a rift with dd and her siblings, but that’s what he’s doing. That you’ve worked hard to make sure dd1 never feels different because she has a different dad to the others but stuff like this will make problems. What’s best for dd1 is for her to be happy and feel part of her own family.

InterIgnis · 24/01/2026 21:33

BunfightBetty · 24/01/2026 21:27

OP’s daughter doesn’t want to share it, and OP cannot make her want to, or make her actually do it

She absolutely could make her do it, and she quite possibly could help her come to a point of understanding where she gets that sharing and thinking about others is beneficial. But OP sounds too frightened to upset her elder DD in case the elder DD flounces off to Daddy.

OP’s being controlled here. How much by the father and how much by the child (coached by the father) isn’t clear. However I’d be super worried about a teen DD being coached to be selfish and go against her mother. It may satisfy the father’s need for control and to be vindictive, but it very much isn’t in the long-term interests of the DD.

It’s a tricky situation for OP, but being too submissive isn’t the way forward if she cares about her DD’s long-term development.

How exactly can she make her share? Physically remove the key from her? Prevent her from telling her father, and/or prevent him from retrieving his own property? Yeah, that would work out well for her.

Op is the one who, if she did what you’re suggesting, would be trying to assert a power she does not have over something that does not belong to her. What she has power over is whether it remains in her house or not.

The daughter’s long term development? As if OP attempting to lay down the law means that she’d have to fall into line and adopt the opinions you believe she should hold. If anything it would cement resentment, not generosity.

Soontobe60 · 24/01/2026 21:33

Dazedandconfusec · 24/01/2026 15:26

I don’t think buying my younger daughter a keyboard is treating her as a second class citizen.

If I remove a good piano and force my elder daughter to share an inferior one I think that would potentially have a worse consequence.

It’s not the same as having children who are full siblings. It’s more nuanced.

Really? I have two daughters who are half sisters. As far as myself and they are concerned, they are absolutely full siblings!

InterIgnis · 24/01/2026 21:28

FairKoala · 24/01/2026 21:16

Whilst the piano might be hers and she would be quite within her rights to lock it if it was in her room but as it is in a communal room and her siblings are learning to play then either she can let them practice on the piano or as it is too big it will need to be removed and 2 smaller pianos brought in if she insists she can’t share.

She cant expect everyone in the house to be dictated to by what she will or won’t allow.
There isn’t the space for her df’s over sized gift and his and her insistence that her siblings are treated differently to her.

She needs to understand her father doesn’t have her best interests at heart

As much as he only wanted her to be an only child, the reality is she isn’t. And him buying that piano and insisting only she can use it gave no thought to the hurt it would cause her when she would have to get rid of it because she isn’t allowed to share.

It’s all designed to make you look like the baddie and to build walls between her and her siblings so she can live the only child fantasy he has regardless of the damage it would cause her

She doesn’t ’need’ to understand any such thing about her father, who for all we know is standing up for his daughter who doesn’t want her siblings using the piano. OP said her daughter wouldn’t be able to unilaterally challenge her about it, so asked the person who could to advocate for her.

She’s a person in her own right, and OP wanting her to share her perspective on sharing with siblings does not mean she can be forced to. The piano is in OP’s home because she and her ex agreed to facilitate their shared child being able to use it at her main residence. It isn’t OP’s piano, or communal family property.

BunfightBetty · 24/01/2026 21:27

InterIgnis · 24/01/2026 21:09

Ah, my apologies. I believed you more likely to actually mean that over the more…unwise alternative. I remain unsure as to what point OP would be making by levying a threat they both will know to be entirely hyperbolic and empty. That would be OP lashing out, which is not the same thing as being uncowed.

Who said anything about breaking and entering? Presumably he can employ a company to arrange the removal. Not sure why that’s supposed to be onerous, unless you anticipate OP trying to keep hold of it?

OP’s daughter doesn’t want to share it, and OP cannot make her want to, or make her actually do it. She isn’t going to blame her father for it being removed, but her mother and siblings. If anything she will see her father as being the one standing up for her. She can also choose to do exactly what OP does not want her to do, and spend more time with her father in order to use the piano at one of his houses.

OP’s daughter doesn’t want to share it, and OP cannot make her want to, or make her actually do it

She absolutely could make her do it, and she quite possibly could help her come to a point of understanding where she gets that sharing and thinking about others is beneficial. But OP sounds too frightened to upset her elder DD in case the elder DD flounces off to Daddy.

OP’s being controlled here. How much by the father and how much by the child (coached by the father) isn’t clear. However I’d be super worried about a teen DD being coached to be selfish and go against her mother. It may satisfy the father’s need for control and to be vindictive, but it very much isn’t in the long-term interests of the DD.

It’s a tricky situation for OP, but being too submissive isn’t the way forward if she cares about her DD’s long-term development.

BunfightBetty · 24/01/2026 21:20

Holdinguphalfthesky · 24/01/2026 21:07

I disagree that there’s never been any abuse. I think this situation looks like one created by someone who is coercively controlling. I think anyone who openly says their ex should have preserved their life in aspic and never gone on to have new relationships and other children is controlling, and anyone getting their 12 year old child to tell her mother that her siblings are not to use the piano that’s in their house is also controlling and coercing the 12yo. Sorry, but I think it sounds really fucked up. She’s going to end up a mass of stress and confusion with this going on.

Does he also try and tell you what to have for dinner on Friday nights? Or who to be friends with? He seems to think he’s entitled to criticise your relationship and your fertility, even though you obviously aren’t with him now. That’s outrageous!

anyone who openly says their ex should have preserved their life in aspic and never gone on to have new relationships and other children is controlling, and anyone getting their 12 year old child to tell her mother that her siblings are not to use the piano that’s in their house is also controlling and coercing the 12yo.

This is spot on. Personally, I wouldn’t be pandering to it and I’d be taking a keen interest in guiding the elder DD’s sense of morals and ethics. What’s being modelled by the father is toxic.

FairKoala · 24/01/2026 21:16

Whilst the piano might be hers and she would be quite within her rights to lock it if it was in her room but as it is in a communal room and her siblings are learning to play then either she can let them practice on the piano or as it is too big it will need to be removed and 2 smaller pianos brought in if she insists she can’t share.

She cant expect everyone in the house to be dictated to by what she will or won’t allow.
There isn’t the space for her df’s over sized gift and his and her insistence that her siblings are treated differently to her.

She needs to understand her father doesn’t have her best interests at heart

As much as he only wanted her to be an only child, the reality is she isn’t. And him buying that piano and insisting only she can use it gave no thought to the hurt it would cause her when she would have to get rid of it because she isn’t allowed to share.

It’s all designed to make you look like the baddie and to build walls between her and her siblings so she can live the only child fantasy he has regardless of the damage it would cause her

beeautifullif3 · 24/01/2026 21:14

Im with the ex , if your new children want a piano you and your new husband can buy them one

NorthXNorthWest · 24/01/2026 21:13

Vivi0 · 24/01/2026 15:51

Telling the OP she is the controlling one, when her ex is dictating what she can and cannot do with items in her own home, is gaslighting.

As for the rest. lol.

Whatever makes you feel good about yourself.

You do realise this is AIBU. The clue is literally in the title and subheading: ‘Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions.’ It's mad that so many people get upset when it is not an echo chamber.

This isn’t really about sharing. It’s about boundaries in a blended family, and about a child with a non resident parent whose life has already been disrupted being allowed to keep something that’s hers.

The piano is a personal gift from her dad. It has meaning. Being large and in a communal space doesn’t magically turn it into a community asset. The OP was perfectly within her rights to say no at the point the piano was offered, but it has now been in the house over 2 years.

The OP has already said she took her eye off the ball with her daughter during the transition to becoming a blended family. The daughter may be ‘back on track’ now, but it clearly caused a noticeable disruption. Pushing this issue now, when the daughter probably wouldn’t feel able to say no, feels like a backward step. With time she may change her mind or she may never change her mind and that should be respected.

After all the upheaval, it’s not unreasonable for the daughter to have some things that are hers without pressure to share. It’s the mother’s job to manage the half sister’s expectations. That’s a life lesson in itself. Life is messy and inconvenient at times, and sharing is reasonable in some contexts and not reasonable in others.

The only person trying to gaslight is you. I don't need your validation.

InterIgnis · 24/01/2026 21:09

Ah, my apologies. I believed you more likely to actually mean that over the more…unwise alternative. I remain unsure as to what point OP would be making by levying a threat they both will know to be entirely hyperbolic and empty. That would be OP lashing out, which is not the same thing as being uncowed.

Who said anything about breaking and entering? Presumably he can employ a company to arrange the removal. Not sure why that’s supposed to be onerous, unless you anticipate OP trying to keep hold of it?

OP’s daughter doesn’t want to share it, and OP cannot make her want to, or make her actually do it. She isn’t going to blame her father for it being removed, but her mother and siblings. If anything she will see her father as being the one standing up for her. She can also choose to do exactly what OP does not want her to do, and spend more time with her father in order to use the piano at one of his houses.

Holdinguphalfthesky · 24/01/2026 21:07

I disagree that there’s never been any abuse. I think this situation looks like one created by someone who is coercively controlling. I think anyone who openly says their ex should have preserved their life in aspic and never gone on to have new relationships and other children is controlling, and anyone getting their 12 year old child to tell her mother that her siblings are not to use the piano that’s in their house is also controlling and coercing the 12yo. Sorry, but I think it sounds really fucked up. She’s going to end up a mass of stress and confusion with this going on.

Does he also try and tell you what to have for dinner on Friday nights? Or who to be friends with? He seems to think he’s entitled to criticise your relationship and your fertility, even though you obviously aren’t with him now. That’s outrageous!

Franpie · 24/01/2026 21:04

Livelovebehappy · 24/01/2026 20:11

A PC definitely is a personal possession. I had one, as did adult son, until replaced by laptops a few months ago. I would not share my PC with the household. I might let someone use it, but it wouldn’t be a given that someone could just use it when they wanted. What about a car in your garage? If someone in the family didn’t have their own car, and not feasible to buy their own due to room on the property, would the car owner be forced to share with any siblings? Yes, a piano might take up a lot of room, but it’s irrelevant if it’s a gift presented to them where permission has already been granted by OP to have it in her home.

Really? Of course siblings should be taught to share their possessions with their siblings, from a young age even.

My DS has an extremely high powered gaming PC and set up. When DD needed a more powerful computer than her laptop to run software for her DT coursework, she was told she could use DS’s. I would have had zero time for DS had he said no.

Likewise when DS is old enough to drive, he will share his sister’s car until she takes it to university (if she does take it).

We are a family, we share our possessions. My DD reminds me of this value I have instilled in them when she’s rummaging through my wardrobe for bags and shoes!

ThisIsAGlobalPlayerOriginalPodcast · 24/01/2026 20:53

outerspacepotato · 24/01/2026 20:05

The oldest is hardly the golden child. She's paid scholastically for her mom's new family and move. She's got a sibling trying to use a £9000 gift from her dad to her. Her dad has stepped in to protect eldest from having her things be forcibly shared. She's got a different dad and she's been made quite aware of that by her stepdad's family. There is background to this.

Wait how do you know it’s £9k I can’t see this anywhere?

BunfightBetty · 24/01/2026 20:43

Pretz123 · 24/01/2026 20:23

I'd be more concerned by your elder child's behaviour to her sibling, a pretty awful way to treat her brother.

So would I, if she was really being that selfish. That’s not an attitude I’d want to encourage at all. But it may well not be her being selfish, but instead she may be afraid of what Dad will say if she doesn’t do his bidding. Sounds like he’s not above being coercive.

BunfightBetty · 24/01/2026 20:40

InterIgnis · 24/01/2026 18:43

Lol. Stating the fact of his legal ownership isn’t ’pulling shit’. He hasn’t dumped it anywhere. OP was free to say no to having it, and she can also request he move it if she wants to (no, she can’t just present him with a bill retroactively).

He agreed to allow his daughter to use it at OP’s house, and OP agreed to have it there for said daughter. This arrangement is for their child’s benefit, not either of theirs.

He has two houses, and is not lacking in space for the piano. He isn’t reliant on OP. Arranging it for it to be moved would also require little effort on his part, so OP saying ‘come get it then’ is highly unlikely to phase him.

Anyway, OP has come to a decision.

Lol. Clearly, it was a bit too subtle in retrospect, but my point was more that if he’s going to be a horrible, petty cunt, who wants to encourage selfish and divisive behaviour in his daughter, then OP can react accordingly, and doesn’t need to be cowed by him throwing his weight around. I wasn’t actually thinking she’d get him to pay a bill. 😂 Apologies if that wasn’t as clear as I assumed.

He can’t break and enter into OP’s house to take the piano, even if technically it belongs to him. He can ask nicely to retrieve it at a time of OP’s convenience. And he can explain to his daughter that he’s depriving her of the use of her piano in her own home because it’s more important to him to control the OP and selfishly keep his toys to himself than it is to him to foster her development in music, or model treating others well.

InterIgnis · 24/01/2026 20:27

ThatCyanCat · 24/01/2026 20:06

If OP has already decided that she's going to commandeer a piano for only one of her children, she wouldn't be asking for opinions here.

The father doesn't live there and he doesn't get to dictate who does what in OP's home. And a 12 year old doesn't get to dictate that only she uses the massive, multi thousand pound instrument sitting in their communal area when she's got younger siblings who are also learning. That's life with siblings. I'm the youngest of three, I got the smaller bedroom growing up and gradually got promoted as the others left. That's how it is.

Either knobhead takes the piano into his own home (apparently he's got a selection so I'm sure he can find somewhere), OP offers to partly buy him out so they co-own this piano (I mean, that's frigging ridiculous but it removes what tenuous claim he's trying to use) and if neither of those is acceptable, she takes control as a parent and makes it clear that there are some things which can be obtained for each individual person's sole use, but a bleeping piano is not among them for reasons too obvious to state for a fourth time. She's providing the storage so she can set terms to make it worthwhile.

ETA: Keyboards are not pianos and the more they learn, the more they'll realise this. And just because you can throw out £9k at will and lose several square feet in floor space because it pleases your 12 year old and the ex who doesn't live there does not in any way oblige you to.

Edited

It’s in her updates. Op isn’t commandeering it for her youngest to use, that’s the point. If she tries, he can remove it, and if he removes it the oldest daughter can choose to spend more time with her father/at her father’s house where it is. That’s the outcome that OP explicitly doesn’t want.

It isn’t OP’s piano. She cannot force either her daughter or her ex to allow her younger children to use it. Her eldest daughter, like it or not, does get a say over it. OP does not.

The stepfather didn’t suggest a keyboard, he suggested another piano.

Pretz123 · 24/01/2026 20:23

I'd be more concerned by your elder child's behaviour to her sibling, a pretty awful way to treat her brother.

outerspacepotato · 24/01/2026 20:21

Happyjoe · 24/01/2026 20:09

Is it not a gift? Since when do people who give gifts then dictate what happens with them?
This I presume is your home where the piano is? Then your home, your rules. Honestly he is being unreasonable.

Since the sibling wants to use a pricey piano eldest's dad gifted to eldest. She is likely afraid to say no and her dad is shielding her from the fallout by setting boundaries for his daughter.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 24/01/2026 20:19

Is he paying the rent for the space his piano is taking up? I feel sorry for your DD stuck in the middle wanting to please her father.

movinghomeadvice · 24/01/2026 20:19

OP, I was your eldest daughter: Pianist, played other instruments at a high level. I went on to study music at university and am now a music teacher, so it’s my whole career.

I always had to ‘earn’ my instruments. Starting with a crappy keyboard, which turned into a decent upright piano once I passed Grade 2. I then got a baby grand when I was accepted into my music degree and had piano as my minor instrument. Same with my woodwind instruments. I have an extremely expensive clarinet which my own DC won’t touch until they get to at least grade 3-4. I will buy them a beginner model until then. They might not even want to learn it, it will be their choice.

My DSis loved music but never had the patience to practise and do grades, so she stayed on the crappy keyboard. She eventually learned drums and got a drum kit, which was all hers (I never played it).

The baby grand was definitely ‘mine’, in that no one else played it. My parents sold it when I moved abroad, because no one else in the house had a use for it anymore.

All that to say - Buy the keyboard for your other kids and then upgrade if they practise and pass their exams.

AudreyHepburnseyes · 24/01/2026 20:17

Dazedandconfusec · 24/01/2026 15:57

My ex already has a good piano at his house. He is not at this house all the time. I would not want her to have to go to his house to play that piano. She would most likely be on her own there.

It would be unfair on her to have to play an inferior piano at my house.

I have come up with a solution and will see if it’s still an issue in a year or so.

She can’t have a baby grand in her bedroom even if we wanted her to.

This is all very Mildred Pierce. I think you are doing your daughter a disservice pandering to this behaviour. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a top notch Yamaha electric piano with weighted keys for a 12 year old, that can be shared with the younger children.

Shatteredallthetimelately · 24/01/2026 20:14

I think my elder daughter would prefer that her piano is not shared but wouldn’t have challenged me in this way unilaterally.

Is there any chance that your elder DD doesn't want her siblings using the piano but hasn't said anything to you but has mentioned it to her dad?

Livelovebehappy · 24/01/2026 20:11

Uhghg · 24/01/2026 19:40

Own possessions are things like mobile phones, certain toys etc - things that everyone can have their own of.

There are some things that are shared items eg a PC or printer or a piano, as it’s not feasible to most people to have multiple in their home.

Are you saying OP should get a separate piano for each member of the household?

A PC definitely is a personal possession. I had one, as did adult son, until replaced by laptops a few months ago. I would not share my PC with the household. I might let someone use it, but it wouldn’t be a given that someone could just use it when they wanted. What about a car in your garage? If someone in the family didn’t have their own car, and not feasible to buy their own due to room on the property, would the car owner be forced to share with any siblings? Yes, a piano might take up a lot of room, but it’s irrelevant if it’s a gift presented to them where permission has already been granted by OP to have it in her home.

TickingKey46 · 24/01/2026 20:11

Did you say the piano was worth £9,000! How old are the younger children? I kind of understand why he wouldn't want the other children playing it. Its clearly very expensive.

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