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How to actually get authorities to take action on benefit frauds

354 replies

Hattieandcake · 23/01/2026 21:49

Examples reported and nothing done -

  • someone taking cash in hand for dogs - evidence sent online of cash only sales and also including social media showing lifestyle and purchase
  • someone who is lying that they are single having a partner living at their government address with ring footage available that they live their permanently - also taking cash in hand jobs - evident on footage
  • someone putting their SAHM wife on payroll to reduce income claimed - no work done for the business

These are only 2 of many and nothing is done, I am sick to death of it.

OP posts:
Noodledog · 24/01/2026 13:03

NeverDropYourMooncup · 24/01/2026 12:24

Well, this thread will be useful for a criminal prosecution.

It documents the OP's stalking and harassment of their neighbour, so it should be a fairly short trial when combined with evidence from the housing provider and two years' worth of Ring footage.

Yes. I've been reading the thread thinking that 😂the OP assiduously providing the authorities with evidence of her illegal behaviour.

And if nothing else, zero will happen to anyone she reports, because she is no doubt on a list of vexatious reporters who should automatically be ignored.

LilyBunch25 · 24/01/2026 12:59

rememberingthem · 24/01/2026 09:25

Op literally everyone i know who is claiming benefits is doing so in one fraudulent way or another…its absolutely rife! However on here you will get short shrift because other posters prefer to sit in their ivory towers and pretend its not a massive problem. These are the same people who refuse to believe that its possible to claim PIP fraudulently because its “ so hard to get”. The only thing you can do is report them and hope that they get caught out ( highly unlikely).

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Yes, of course...

UserFront242 · 24/01/2026 12:48

THisbackwithavengeance · 24/01/2026 11:12

You’ll get lots of defensive responses OP from posters who are no doubt on the fiddle or playing the system themselves. They want people to be shamed into not reporting wrong doing.

No, OP is weird and is stalking people.
She has still not addressed why her ring doorbell is recording other people's property.

Some people really struggled when the Covid lockdowns ended. I think OP is one.

Cocomelon67 · 24/01/2026 12:48

I can’t speak to specifics but IRL I have often had people make these kind of accusations about other people, wrongly. Very often it stems from a misunderstanding about benefits. This is partly the fault of the ‘all-in-one’ nature of UC. So wheras before someone working might claim working tax credit, now they are claiming UC and working. Around 29% of UC benefit claimants are working. It should be no surprise to find this - it’s fulfilling the same function as working tax credit as well as support for those out of work. But often people don’t realise. Same for PIP. It’s not an out of work benefit. It’s to meet the needs of disabled people in every day life that simple cost more. Many disabled people are also in work and are in fact enabled to stay in work through claiming PIP.

Reassurancells · 24/01/2026 12:43

LakieLady · 24/01/2026 12:40

I'd like to know how these fraudulent PIP claimants get the medical evidence needed to support a PIP application.

Are they all lying to their doctors in order to get evidence or what?

I’d like to know too. I had reams of evidence. Got completely refused and then at MR got high rate mobility low rate care.

LakieLady · 24/01/2026 12:40

rememberingthem · 24/01/2026 09:25

Op literally everyone i know who is claiming benefits is doing so in one fraudulent way or another…its absolutely rife! However on here you will get short shrift because other posters prefer to sit in their ivory towers and pretend its not a massive problem. These are the same people who refuse to believe that its possible to claim PIP fraudulently because its “ so hard to get”. The only thing you can do is report them and hope that they get caught out ( highly unlikely).

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I'd like to know how these fraudulent PIP claimants get the medical evidence needed to support a PIP application.

Are they all lying to their doctors in order to get evidence or what?

Reassurancells · 24/01/2026 12:27

I was reported. By my ex’s new partner. For disability benefit fraud.

the reason being that I have a BB so she assumed I was getting pip (I am) and so she reported me for pip fraud. Because I work.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 24/01/2026 12:24

Well, this thread will be useful for a criminal prosecution.

It documents the OP's stalking and harassment of their neighbour, so it should be a fairly short trial when combined with evidence from the housing provider and two years' worth of Ring footage.

LilyBunch25 · 24/01/2026 12:16

Livelovebehappy · 24/01/2026 10:38

I am. But dont have the notion that all benefit claimants are poor and down trodden who have no option other than to defraud the systems in place. But I know I'm the exception rather than the norm on MN.

I've been a benefits casework specialist for 12 years. The demographic of MN may be what you say it is, who knows? However its not my experience of hundreds of cases over the years.

LilyBunch25 · 24/01/2026 12:14

Newyearawaits · 24/01/2026 10:43

Completely missing the point.
Poor example

I think you'll find that was sarcasm...

Itsmetheflamingo · 24/01/2026 11:55

OonaStubbs · 24/01/2026 11:53

People convicted of benefit fraud should be banned from claiming benefits for ten years. People convicted twice should be banned from claiming benefits (including the state pension) for LIFE.

And how do they buy food and pay for electric then?

OonaStubbs · 24/01/2026 11:53

People convicted of benefit fraud should be banned from claiming benefits for ten years. People convicted twice should be banned from claiming benefits (including the state pension) for LIFE.

THisbackwithavengeance · 24/01/2026 11:12

You’ll get lots of defensive responses OP from posters who are no doubt on the fiddle or playing the system themselves. They want people to be shamed into not reporting wrong doing.

HoskinsChoice · 24/01/2026 11:05

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 24/01/2026 08:55

Do you get this het up over billionaire tax evaders.

Yes.

Itsmetheflamingo · 24/01/2026 11:03

oviraptor21 · 24/01/2026 10:56

Yep. Mumsnet does seem to be a place where benefit fraud and tax evasion are acceptable - except on a thread where someone discusses whether they can do it. So it's not okay to commit fraud but it's even more not okay to report it if you see it happening.
I've seen it a lot - friends who are SAHPs and put on partner's payroll, freely admitting they do nothing, it's for tax purposes. And at work, benefit claimants supplying incorrect information or not updating changes of circumstances. We warn them that is fraud and of the potential consequences but that is all we can do.

It’s not mumsnet then is it? It’s society in general, of which Mn is a reflection

oviraptor21 · 24/01/2026 11:00

And the answer to why more is not done is probably because it's not cost effective to investigate the small guys.
So many reports are likely to just be - he/she said, plus indications of a wealthier lifestyle than could be expected. To probe thay requires a lot of time.

oviraptor21 · 24/01/2026 10:56

Yep. Mumsnet does seem to be a place where benefit fraud and tax evasion are acceptable - except on a thread where someone discusses whether they can do it. So it's not okay to commit fraud but it's even more not okay to report it if you see it happening.
I've seen it a lot - friends who are SAHPs and put on partner's payroll, freely admitting they do nothing, it's for tax purposes. And at work, benefit claimants supplying incorrect information or not updating changes of circumstances. We warn them that is fraud and of the potential consequences but that is all we can do.

Newyearawaits · 24/01/2026 10:43

MainStreetScienceWorld · 24/01/2026 01:30

Yesterday, I was peering at my neighbours through my home-made binoculars whilst hoiking up my home-made judgy-pants, and I noticed a brand-new BMW parked in the driveway. I never see anyone ever leaving the property to go to work so I suspect that the car must have been obtained by illicit means. Please OP can you report them on my behalf. I’d do it myself, but I suspect you’d love to have another notch in that judgy-pants belt of yours. I’d hate to deprive you. Thank you and god bless you for the work you do.

Completely missing the point.
Poor example

Livelovebehappy · 24/01/2026 10:38

LilyBunch25 · 24/01/2026 10:29

You're an MN poster though are you not?

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I am. But dont have the notion that all benefit claimants are poor and down trodden who have no option other than to defraud the systems in place. But I know I'm the exception rather than the norm on MN.

Itsmetheflamingo · 24/01/2026 10:30

Savoury · 24/01/2026 10:16

I’ve never reported anyone for fraud @Itsmetheflamingo because I wouldn’t even know how and can’t prove anything, even if I was inclined. I don’t even know anyone on benefits (other than pension?) so can’t comment on that at all.

But some types of fraud exists because we enable it. Paying cash in hand for a discount in the trades is likely one of those and I’ve my fair share of offers.

Yes but still nothing like ignoring shoplifting right? You said fraud was the only crime Mumsnet condones

LilyBunch25 · 24/01/2026 10:29

Livelovebehappy · 24/01/2026 09:37

Yanbu. But yabu for posting this on MN. MN posters love and admire benefit fraudsters so youre not going to get a balanced view on here.....

You're an MN poster though are you not?

magicalmadmadamim · 24/01/2026 10:21

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Savoury · 24/01/2026 10:16

I’ve never reported anyone for fraud @Itsmetheflamingo because I wouldn’t even know how and can’t prove anything, even if I was inclined. I don’t even know anyone on benefits (other than pension?) so can’t comment on that at all.

But some types of fraud exists because we enable it. Paying cash in hand for a discount in the trades is likely one of those and I’ve my fair share of offers.

HerNeighbourTotoro · 24/01/2026 10:09

Kimura · 24/01/2026 06:56

I completely agree with the point you're making, but at the same time I don't think it's unreasonable for people to get more emotionally invested in issues closer to home. If someone was angry about people selling heroin outside their house, we wouldn't tell them to start looking into the gangs that import it from Europe first.

If you're surviving on benefits, or working all hours and still struggling to get by, it must range from infuriating to upsetting to live opposite someone openly defrauding the system and seemingly being rewarded for it.

There's a lot to be said for minding your own business, but when it's happening on your doorstep it might not be that easy.

The thing is, you kind of never know what is going on behind closed door. Someone who may seem wealthy may not be. I know some vigilantes who abuse people who park in disabled bays because the drivers "Dont look disabled" and feel incredibly smug, and this is another example of it.
Some people abuse the tax system, but the total amount of frauds is nowhere like big companies not paying tax at all. It''s easier to nab Helen who moved in her partner to be able to survive but claims single occupancy over some Dick who puts all hismoney in an offshore account, I get it. But it's like Kirsty Slop going after Michael Rosen trying to renew his Freedom Pass.

Savoury · 24/01/2026 10:08

I think many of you who legitimately and legally handle cash are missing the point.

I’ve had builders give me lower quotes for cash jobs, and we all know businesses that bend the rules. I can’t prove anytime bar a love of cash but let’s face it, they give cash businesses a bad rep.

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