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Helping the government save money

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Samdelila · 23/01/2026 18:49

I think free prescriptions for people with certain conditions should be means tested. What else could the government cut to save money?

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RosesAndHellebores · 23/01/2026 21:43

I think the arguments on the thread fail to see the wood for the trees.

I need levothyroxine and have done for more than 30 years. I'm also now over 60, as is DH, and all prescriptions are free regardless. DH has none. I have Levo and Adcal D3.

35 years ago I got 365 levo and an annual blood test. Now, thanks to 28/56 day prescribing I have to have 6 prescriptions per year for each item. Each item is as cheap as chips and costs more for the GP to review every two months and the pharmacy to dispense, notwithstanding the waste of my time. Nobody questions the time wasted compared to the cost of the meds.

The fact that I have significant means is not the true point although I fail to fully understand why I have had all prescriptions free since 1990.

DH, at 64 and still working full-time and with a considerable income, is a separate matter.

Universal free school meals is another issue. When our dc were at school the paid for meals were of execrable quality and ours had a packed lunch which cost us more for the sake of better food. Once things are free, or free at the point of delivery, it makes complaint about poor standards very difficult.

The 16 hour rules around working and benefits. If there is work available and childcare is not an issue, nobody should be allowed to decline additional work to preserve benefits, but nobody should be better off claiming than working, ever. If there are local public sector or allied public sector vacancies, those who are working age and fit to work, should have to work.

SorryImnotpsychic · 23/01/2026 21:32

I think the opposite. Free prescriptions for all might save money in the long run, removes barriers to treating medical issues reducing hospital admissions or conditions deteriorating to the point benefits are needed

Crebidle · 23/01/2026 21:30

Getting snotty about prescriptions when in Scotland and Wales everyone gets them free 🙄

Getting rid of the child benefit loophole where my in laws both earning £59k a year each, therefore meaning they can claim full CB but the rules are different for one person earning 60k plus. What bullshit.

HS2. Nuff said.

MsGreying · 23/01/2026 21:11

Boudy · 23/01/2026 19:26

House of Lords. Happy to be corrected but think around £250-£350 a day for each person if they 'sign in'. Get rid of subsidised food/ drink in HOP etc. Review Mp's expenses.....for starters.

Ditch all the HOC bars and give them tap water and make them take a sandwich.

usaywhat · 23/01/2026 20:34

Samdelila · 23/01/2026 19:09

I know someone who earns more than £200,000 who has diabetes type 2 and gets all her prescriptions for free, so people like her basically.

Well she pays enough in tax - deserves the prescription imo. I wonder if she worked so hard that she neglected her health. This often happens.

Samdelila · 23/01/2026 20:22

bathsmat · 23/01/2026 19:48

@Samdelila we can’t just keeping targeting income, there is too much disparity

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But we can’t just keep spending money on benefits people literally do not need either.

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pizzaHeart · 23/01/2026 20:20

I think the availability of more GPs appointments and diagnostics tests will save government money as problems will be caught earlier before they require more resources to deal with them .

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Samdelila · 23/01/2026 20:20

Wolmando · 23/01/2026 20:11

OP has obviously got a bee in her bonnet about this well off acquaintance and her prescriptions so won't be interested in any other ways to save money

I am interested in other ways to save money! I just used my “well off acquaintance” as an example.

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Samdelila · 23/01/2026 20:16

BlackCatDiscoClub · 23/01/2026 20:12

Stop the Department for Transport (I.e. the taxpayer) from funding the delay repay scheme when train companies should pay it. Thats not a criticism of the government BTW, its a criticism of train companies not taking responsibility.

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Ideally yes they should - payouts to my household alone must be costing the department of transport an arm and a leg. I assume the train companies claim they haven’t the money to pay it?

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SnipSnipMrBurgess · 23/01/2026 20:15

Maybe look at the government officials and politicians expenses? Second and third home taxes? People who dont pay their fair share like large multi nationals and make them pay?

Crunchymum · 23/01/2026 20:13

To answer the actual question (about saving money) I'd like to see prescription waste tackled.

I'm on a few medications for an autoimmune condition and have had numerous experiences over the years with being unable to get my prescriptions updated correctly in a timely fashion resulting in surplus medication. For example in order to get one medication I had to accept 3 months worth of an incorrect dosage of the other medication because the consultant letter hadn't reached the online pharmacy who dispensed my medication.

I knew it was going to be an issue so I called pharmacy, they didnt have the consultant letter but I had it in my patient portal and offered to send it over which they refused. I also chased my team for the letter, made several calls over several days but in the end due to running low on one medication I had to just accept the prescription as it stood, knowing I was going to waste 3 months of medication as they wouldn't let me "just" order one and wait for the new script to arrive for the second medication.

There was also another time my hospital switched providers and I was sent a duplicate order. I had 10 weeks supply and they sent me another 3 months. As soon as I realised I was being sent a fulll script so early I called to try and postpone the order from the new pharmacy / supplier but again "computer said no" and I ended up with a huge backlog of medication and of course ended up having a dosage change before I made a dent in it.

I'm on quite a few support groups for my condition and this is a country wide issue thay happens in numerous trusts.

TLDR a good way to save money is to allow more autonomy with patients on long term medical conditions to manage their own supplies.

FWIW my hospital accept my surplus medication, which is a sealed and prefilled one use injection, as they use it for training new patients to inject and they even supply in emergencies (for example if someone comes into clinic and the consultant changes dose, the clinic have a supply and they can provide an interim amount of prefilled injection pens whilst the new script it being sorted).

Samdelila · 23/01/2026 20:13

ZookeeperSE · 23/01/2026 20:07

🤣
If you say so.
Enjoy your welfare state while it lasts then.

But an argument in opposition to means testing is irrelevant in this instance. We should restrict free prescriptions to people who have already been identified as being in need of benefits. No need for further means testing.

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BlackCatDiscoClub · 23/01/2026 20:12

Stop the Department for Transport (I.e. the taxpayer) from funding the delay repay scheme when train companies should pay it. Thats not a criticism of the government BTW, its a criticism of train companies not taking responsibility.

Wolmando · 23/01/2026 20:11

OP has obviously got a bee in her bonnet about this well off acquaintance and her prescriptions so won't be interested in any other ways to save money

ZookeeperSE · 23/01/2026 20:07

Samdelila · 23/01/2026 19:50

Its irrelevant.

🤣
If you say so.
Enjoy your welfare state while it lasts then.

Samdelila · 23/01/2026 20:06

Nevermind17 · 23/01/2026 19:49

Her taxes will more than cover the £100 a year she’s saving by not having to buy a pre-payment certificate.

But she can easily afford it. And the country desperately needs to save money.

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Samdelila · 23/01/2026 20:03

User1990C · 23/01/2026 19:48

Paying more in taxes than most people earn in a year and you want to get £9.90 out of them for their medical condition? You're the problem.

£9.90? I doubt her prescriptions cost as little as that.

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Frequency · 23/01/2026 20:00

I would start by closing tax loopholes to prevent tax avoidance.
Cap private rents to 10% above the cost of mortgage + maintenance
extra taxes on Airbnb income, and empty homes

I would use the extra money to build more social housing and invest in social and health care.

Samdelila · 23/01/2026 19:59

JugglingMyNuts · 23/01/2026 19:57

I pay for a pre payment prescription so at most she has saved about £114 for the year.

We shouldn’t punish ill people so I would like to see better prescribing to avoid wasted medication which I suspect costs a lot more.

I would see better prescribing, less waste and an end to unneeded free prescriptions.

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Samdelila · 23/01/2026 19:58

bunnylegs · 23/01/2026 19:54

Wiithout people who have a lot of money there would be no ‘freebies’, stopping rich people having some medication free isn’t going to make a dent in the problem, let alone solve it.

So you don’t think it’s worth doing, because it doesn’t save enough? How much money would we have to give people who already have plenty before you’d say enough is enough?

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JugglingMyNuts · 23/01/2026 19:57

I pay for a pre payment prescription so at most she has saved about £114 for the year.

We shouldn’t punish ill people so I would like to see better prescribing to avoid wasted medication which I suspect costs a lot more.

CaptainMyCaptain · 23/01/2026 19:57

Boudy · 23/01/2026 19:26

House of Lords. Happy to be corrected but think around £250-£350 a day for each person if they 'sign in'. Get rid of subsidised food/ drink in HOP etc. Review Mp's expenses.....for starters.

I agree.

Samdelila · 23/01/2026 19:55

Egglio · 23/01/2026 19:54

@Samdelila is it just prescriptions you're focusing on or do you have other ideas? Wondering as you ignored @Boudy about the House of Lords.

I would say these people could afford their own food and drink without subsidy.

Ha ha - I missed that one. I’m interested to hear everyone’s ideas about how we can save money.

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bunnylegs · 23/01/2026 19:54

Samdelila · 23/01/2026 19:35

But we can’t afford to give freebies to people who have a lot of money.

Wiithout people who have a lot of money there would be no ‘freebies’, stopping rich people having some medication free isn’t going to make a dent in the problem, let alone solve it.

Icecreamandcoffee · 23/01/2026 19:54

Samdelila · 23/01/2026 19:09

I know someone who earns more than £200,000 who has diabetes type 2 and gets all her prescriptions for free, so people like her basically.

Or let's turn it on it's head. You can only have services and treatment up to the amount you contribute in tax.

So this lady would be allowed around £76k in services and treatment on the NHS for the year. Once you hit your contribution level you have to pay for your services and treatment.

Seeing as most of us don't contribute in the system as much as we take out this will save loads of money. Some of us will barely get our bins emptied.