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Helping the government save money

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Samdelila · 23/01/2026 18:49

I think free prescriptions for people with certain conditions should be means tested. What else could the government cut to save money?

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Samdelila · 24/01/2026 16:07

MammaBear1 · 24/01/2026 16:02

I’d far rather not have the condition I have than free prescriptions, thanks.
Don’t be so envious of the ill health some of us live with - it’s not a privilege or something special. I’d swap my free medication for good health.

I’m not envious of her ill health. I just think we should not be giving freebies to people who don’t need them.

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Samdelila · 24/01/2026 16:05

NoSoupForU · 24/01/2026 15:57

I think they should either be free to everybody or nobody. But your pal is contributing to the system more than most people so I find it really weird that you're so bitter.

You are misreading me. I used my friend as an example of the government spending money on something I don’t think they should be spending money on - in a bid to generate ideas about how the country could cut spending. I’m not bitter against her personally.

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MammaBear1 · 24/01/2026 16:02

rwalker · 23/01/2026 19:02

The Free prescription for certain conditions is a ridiculous system
by all means the medication relevant to the condition should be free
but they get every prescription for unrelated conditions free as well charge them

I’d far rather not have the condition I have than free prescriptions, thanks.
Don’t be so envious of the ill health some of us live with - it’s not a privilege or something special. I’d swap my free medication for good health.

Frequency · 24/01/2026 15:57

Samdelila · 24/01/2026 15:53

I am astonished by the number of people who think we should give away c£120 to people who do not need it because it’s not enough money to worry about.

Research by independent charities tends to show that free prescriptions reduce the overall cost of chronic illness on the NHS. Without them, people ration or skip their medication, get sicker, and require more treatment. It also costs the economy in terms of loss of productivity.

I'm also confused as to why you think people with a chronic illnesses are a better target for your campaign to save money than private LLs, AirBnB, Amazon, Starbucks et al, and MPs' expenses?

NoSoupForU · 24/01/2026 15:57

Samdelila · 24/01/2026 15:53

I am astonished by the number of people who think we should give away c£120 to people who do not need it because it’s not enough money to worry about.

I think they should either be free to everybody or nobody. But your pal is contributing to the system more than most people so I find it really weird that you're so bitter.

Samdelila · 24/01/2026 15:53

NoSoupForU · 24/01/2026 15:43

So she's benefiting to the amount of £114.50 a year. Not sure you're going to realise the savings you think.

I am astonished by the number of people who think we should give away c£120 to people who do not need it because it’s not enough money to worry about.

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Jamsponges · 24/01/2026 15:52

Ilikewinter · 24/01/2026 15:39

100% agree with this. The free meds should only be for that specific condition, not for every illness going. However I'm sure people will argue that having x condition means they are more susceptible to y condition.

Any illness exacerbates my illness that is on the list - there's no way of separating them

NoSoupForU · 24/01/2026 15:43

Samdelila · 23/01/2026 19:09

I know someone who earns more than £200,000 who has diabetes type 2 and gets all her prescriptions for free, so people like her basically.

So she's benefiting to the amount of £114.50 a year. Not sure you're going to realise the savings you think.

Ilikewinter · 24/01/2026 15:39

rwalker · 23/01/2026 19:02

The Free prescription for certain conditions is a ridiculous system
by all means the medication relevant to the condition should be free
but they get every prescription for unrelated conditions free as well charge them

100% agree with this. The free meds should only be for that specific condition, not for every illness going. However I'm sure people will argue that having x condition means they are more susceptible to y condition.

Politicians247UnderwearExtinguishingService · 24/01/2026 15:26

Samdelila · 24/01/2026 14:57

She could, and would, invest in her own health so we don’t need to pay for her to do this.

Whilst I'm a firm believer in the wealthy and privileged making their fair contribution to society, I think telling somebody that they can be made to pay several thousands of pounds in tax to the state every single month, but then told that they need to pay an extra tenner per prescription item when they need it (NEED it, owing to being unlucky enough to have to live with a serious lifelong health condition; it's not an exciting little luxury), because "You can pay for it yourself and you don't need a handout from the state" is a massive insult.

It would be a bit like your parents coming around as a surprise with a £250,000 cheque to give to you, to pay off your mortgage in full - and then you offer them a cup of tea, but tell them you'll have to charge them £1 each for the teabag, milk and cost of boiling the water, "because you can obviously afford it and these things aren't free, don't you know".

Samdelila · 24/01/2026 15:09

LilyBunch25 · 24/01/2026 15:04

No, I'm asking how you're going to present them to government? How did you arrive at that response to such a straightforward question?

Because I have no way of presenting these ideas to the government. So, I am insignificant but still believe I should be allowed to have theoretical discussions.

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LilyBunch25 · 24/01/2026 15:04

Samdelila · 24/01/2026 14:52

Are you saying I am too insignificant to try and come up with ways to help the country?

No, I'm asking how you're going to present them to government? How did you arrive at that response to such a straightforward question?

Samdelila · 24/01/2026 15:01

user746016 · 24/01/2026 11:40

DSA for students to get a free laptop monitor headphones etc. plus hours and hours of training on various software packages and study skills. If they passed their A Levels then broadly they’ve got the skills to cope. The packages cost tens of thousands and are very very easy to access. If we could afford it then fine but we can’t.

Turn off every other street light in built up areas. There would still be enough light.

Prevent councils spending their money on art and statues etc. again- it’s a nice to have which we can’t afford.

Taxis for sen students. This needs far more regulation and whilst it might be necessary in some cases this should be a small contributory allowance rather than using the contracts with firms which rip off the councils.

reduce the contribution rate and the payment levels on public sector pensions. The pension levels are ridiculously high and much much higher than private sector pensions for equivalent roles.

Good ideas.

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Boomer55 · 24/01/2026 14:58

Samdelila · 24/01/2026 09:11

My point is that we are trying to identify ways for the government to save money -and not giving free prescriptions to people who can easily afford them seems like a good starting point to me.

Well, we could try that if you haven't paid in for (say) 5 years, irrespective of nationality, you get nothing. Other than children. That would save money - although you might have more homeless. And people needing to beg or steal to live. 🙄

Samdelila · 24/01/2026 14:57

Allywill · 24/01/2026 11:43

or we could look at it as an investment in her health ensuring she continues to work and pay her (massive) tax bill

She could, and would, invest in her own health so we don’t need to pay for her to do this.

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Samdelila · 24/01/2026 14:54

monkeysox · 24/01/2026 12:11

Not worth doing. Cost for means testing vs saving a tenner a month for pre payment certificate

If we restricted free prescriptions to people who already qualified for benefits there would be no need to carry out extra means testing.

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Samdelila · 24/01/2026 14:52

LilyBunch25 · 24/01/2026 14:37

OK and when you find these solutions how are you going to present them to government?

Are you saying I am too insignificant to try and come up with ways to help the country?

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Samdelila · 24/01/2026 14:49

monkeysox · 24/01/2026 12:26

But the prescription charge is a drop in the ocean compared to actual drug costs.

I still think we should try to save the money - each drop in the ocean adds up.

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LilyBunch25 · 24/01/2026 14:37

Frequency · 24/01/2026 14:35

You appear to be looking for ways to take from a group of people who have nothing left to give while ignoring extortionate private rents, unnecessary MP expenses, massive amounts of tax avoidance, and multi-billion-pound international conglomerates having their wage bill propped up by the UK taxpayers.

There are ways to save, but again, you need to look up to find them, not down.

Exactly.

LilyBunch25 · 24/01/2026 14:37

Samdelila · 24/01/2026 14:32

I think we should definitely try and address the problem of giving freebies to people who refuse to get jobs. I’m looking for as many ways for the government to save money as possible.

OK and when you find these solutions how are you going to present them to government?

Frequency · 24/01/2026 14:35

Samdelila · 24/01/2026 14:32

I think we should definitely try and address the problem of giving freebies to people who refuse to get jobs. I’m looking for as many ways for the government to save money as possible.

You appear to be looking for ways to take from a group of people who have nothing left to give while ignoring extortionate private rents, unnecessary MP expenses, massive amounts of tax avoidance, and multi-billion-pound international conglomerates having their wage bill propped up by the UK taxpayers.

There are ways to save, but again, you need to look up to find them, not down.

Samdelila · 24/01/2026 14:33

Politicians247UnderwearExtinguishingService · 24/01/2026 13:09

I don't think everybody with T2D automatically qualify for free prescriptions, do they, if they don't use insulin? I stand to be corrected.

I completely agree with you regarding asthma. You have a lifelong condition that actually affects your regular ability to breathe and thus to stay alive; but that's somehow not all that serious?!

Yes, they do qualify for free prescriptions even if they are not on insulin.

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Samdelila · 24/01/2026 14:32

Rollerbarbie88 · 24/01/2026 13:23

The bigger issue is that we can't afford to give freebies to people who refuse to get jobs or use birth control. It sounds as though your friend is likely paying for your entire family's prescriptions so maybe curb your jealousy?

I think we should definitely try and address the problem of giving freebies to people who refuse to get jobs. I’m looking for as many ways for the government to save money as possible.

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Samdelila · 24/01/2026 14:28

OneZanyPoet · 24/01/2026 11:37

Calm down dear, this whole thread is a goad fest.

It’s meant to be an attempt to identify ways the government can save money - but we’re not allowed to even think about that apparently.

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Frequency · 24/01/2026 14:07

The problem we've gotten into has been caused by a lack of government spending due to austerity, compounded by Brexit and the effects of Covid. We cannot get out of it without spending.

People are sick because healthcare services are falling apart, and they're living in damp, mouldy houses that they can't afford to heat, while not being able to afford a proper nutritional diet. Mental health services for children and young people are all but non-existent. I had a 6-12 month wait for CAHMS when DD was suicidal. For adults, the service is hardly any better.

Public services are either closed or lacking, e.g., early intervention services like Sure Start are gone, public transport is failing, and public libraries have closed.

Rents have spiralled out of control, bumping up the HB bill. The few social houses we do have are often in a state of disrepair.

Scrapping free prescriptions won't help us, and if we cut benefits people will get sicker and cost even more. The only solution is investment into services and promoting growth, but we need money for that, and to get money, we have to tax the people who can afford to pay.

We've been "saving" money for 14 years. Saving money is what has caused this mess.