Dads using female communal changing room

I don't have to argue with you.

You've demonstrated enough all by yourself.

Your eloquence is fascinating - but it's not really an argument, is it? Why don't you simply admit that you don't really care about facts or biology if it doesn't support your opinion?

It doesn't really matter what I am - it's more a question of fact, isn't it?

In a word.

No.

that’s not a screenshot.

waiting for the screenshot where I called intersex people inhuman.

(clue. I didn’t)

Then please tell me: how do you identify someone as male (or female for that matter)? Is the presence of a Y-chromosome enough? The presence of SRY?
What do you do with someone who has both, Wolffian and Mullerian ducts? What about those who fall within ICD-10 Q56?

It doesn't really matter what I am - it's more a question of fact, isn't it?

You got it:

Taztoy · 25/01/2026 14:55
If someone isn’t female, what are they?
Alex122022 · 25/01/2026 14:48
" I sometimes think boys are considered second class citizens on MN."
I think everyone who is not female.

All humans are male or female. No VSD affects both sexes. I thought you were a biologist? Is that like a trans biologist? Do you just identify as one?

I don't think we're going to get it

Please refer to your reply on this thread:

Taztoy · 25/01/2026 14:55
If someone isn’t female, what are they?
Alex122022 · 25/01/2026 14:48
" I sometimes think boys are considered second class citizens on MN."
I think everyone who is not female.

Why do you deviate? @Taztoy claimed all people who are not female are male - thereby claiming that no other possibility exists. I disagree - even if a single person exists who does not meet the criteria, the statement is wrong.

There are a number of disorders that would make it difficult to unequivocally assign a sex - so the question really is: why do you force them into a binary category?

Yet again, a bloke’s problem falls on women to sort out. He should be in the men’s where he belongs looking for a quiet corner so he can screen her with a towel or looking for a unisex toilet to take her in etc. Worst way, dry robe for the car journey home. The situation is NOT a free pass for a grown man to be entering the women’s changing room and encroaching on all of their privacy. JFC I am so sick of this.

Still waiting for that screenshot.

Given he's also apparently taught 'developmental biology some time ago' and thinks he's smarter than Robert Winston, Id be questioning who ever taught him and whatever he's taught never mind what his parents taught him.

I’d ask your parents. I mean, I’m not saying they’ve failed you if you can’t tell the difference between a male and a female but…. Have you considered remedial classes? Or I hear there’s some really good basic biology classes online. Maybe give those a go?

How do you know you have a daughter?

I'm guessing that you spend a long time considering the possibilities, thought about gametes, anatomy and genes before coming to this conclusion.

Or not. Because she's your imaginary daughter.

In that case, you need a clear definition of what is male and what is female. So please tell me what requirements you would use? Genes? Are not always expressed. Anatomy? Gametes? There are always exceptions.

He’s not allowed. I’m entitled to a single sex space. He finds somewhere else.

I’m not saying I agree with it, I would find it strange too. I’m just trying to help see the reason he is taking his child in there.

But what about the girls having to change in front of a man, or do their feelings not count?

but @taztoy is right. Any human on earth who isn't female is male. There are only two sexes. You then mentioned that “intersex” people exist. Are you claiming people with a VSD are not male or female? Are you saying they are some third sex? Really? Youre even more of a wazzock than it appears

Please supply the screenshot for the claim that I called ANYONE inhuman.

thank you.

@Namelessnelly said: "So if every human im earth is either make or female what sex are “intersex”people? You’ve basically called them inhuman!!"

@Taztoy has claimed that everyone who is not female is male.

So clearly, it was really you to whom @Namelessnelly was referring, because I never made this claim.

Where did I call anyone inhuman?

please provide the screenshot for that statement you just made.

thanks.

Then he takes his daughter into family changing.

Because he doesn’t get to override my lack of consent.

the word is no.

So why does he get to make multiple females uncomfortable? Do the feelings of one man really take priority over multiple women and girls.

he has a choice. He either goes in the men’s or doesn’t go at all. Either his dd doesn’t swim or changes on her own. But by walking into a room of females he’s taking away their choice to not be naked in front of a stranger