Dads using female communal changing room

Screenshot of definition of inhuman.

Who put you in charge - you seem to believe you can simply demand a screenshot.

Who put you in charge here?

Simple: you explain to me how to distinguish male and female, and I post a screenshot.

Still waiting for my screenshot Alex.

If you say so Alex.

The pool should be following the guidelines from Swim England. They may have changed by now, but what this meant when my kids were little was that you take the kids into the changing room for your sex, as the parent, until they turn eight, at which point they have to get changed on their own in the changing room for their sex.

To be honest it was a PITA as you’d have to stand outside the door shouting, “Have you dried yourself?” then “Have you got your pants on?” etc and it took ages! But I understood that they had to draw the line somewhere.

There is no way a grown man should be in the women’s changing room, and if this in in the UK and these men are British and have all their faculties then they DEFINITELY know they shouldn’t be there. This pool needs clear signage. Ours had signage and they used to email all the parents every time someone “got it wrong” and went in the wrong changing room. V mixed area so it was usually someone from a different culture who didn’t understand the rules.

Yes - I don't see how this is relevant. It still doesn't make it illegal.

You have been asked multiple times what act makes it illegal - and there is none.

The word is no Alex.

The changing spaces are designated single sex. That means sex.

"the law says men can’t go into women’s single sex spaces." - there is no law that says so. As you know - it's considerably more complex as it depends essentially on the operator of the facilities.

Repeating it doesn't make it correct.

I did no such thing as saying they were inhuman. That’s a different thing you’ve accused me of.

Intersex people have a disorder of sexual development. They are atypical. What do you think that means?

edit coz hit return too soon.

And if you read what I wrote, you would also know that I never claimed that. You simply denied that people who are neither male nor female existed.

What’s preposterous about

the law says men can’t go into women’s single sex spaces.

im a rape victim and I have a reasonable expectation that a single sex space is indeed single sex.

that means not just for a minute. Not if he’s a nice man. Not if he’s changing his daughter.

the word is no.

why do men find that “preposterous”?

Because I asked you for the screenshot of where I said that intersex people were inhuman.

your quote is hard for me to read due to adhd and processing difficulties, a screenshot of my entire post is clearer.

your quote doesn’t show me calling intersex people inhuman anyway.

You seem to be used to be able to bully your way out of arguments. Don't like someone? Accuse them of being illegal, an "MRA" or endangering children.

I'm sure this is usually successful as most people don't really like to play with bullies - especially bullies who become incredibly defensive when someone not only takes them seriously, but also engages with their arguments.

It's interesting to know that things haven't really changed since usenet times ...

I used to take my son swimming and there was boys and girls changing. A mum kept walking in and out of the boys changing room to give her son stuff or whatever. I asked her to stop as my son was changing and I know he wouldn’t have wanted a random woman in there. Deffo ask him to use the cubicles, it’s not fair on all the girls in there changing.

Whatever Alex. No ones actually listening to your waffle anymore.

Indeed she can. But if someone accuses me of calling someone "inhuman", I believe I have the right to offer a correction.

And when people make preposterous claims about law, safeguarding or biology in a public forum, they need to accept being challenged. No-one forced you to do so.

Still No Alex.

What is the difference between a screenshot and a link and quotation? Both provide the same information.

No. She can do whatever the fuck she likes without having to please you or pander to you.

The answer is No Alex.

Indeed - you don't have to. And arguing with facts is a bad idea if one wants to protect one's prejudices.

But if there are no prejudices to protect: why don't you simply state how you define male and female?

Never said you did. The statement was that someone who denies the existence of intersex people - which is a way one could interpret your claim of strictly binary sex - was considering them to be inhuman.

Perhaps you should really read before replying.

Still waiting for the screenshot.

actual screenshot.

it’s easy enough to do.

if I said that.

should be dead easy.