Dads using female communal changing room

Taztoy is correct, saying that all people who are not female are male. If you are saying that is wrong, then please answer my earlier question, where I asked you what the third sex is.
All of this is a smokescreen though, because you want to get away from the real question, why do you as a male think that you have any right to accompany your daughter into a female changing room.

Let's use the word "determined". But a chromosome test is not sufficient - unless of course you consider the presence of a single Y-chromosome sufficient to identify someone as "male". One could have a male karyotype and still a female phenotype.

Nobody has a sex "assigned". It's possible someone may need a chromosome test to determine sex.

This leaves the question: How do you assign a sex to some one with sexual development differences/disorders, @Alpacajigsaw ?

Me, you and everyone else on this planet came into existence due to the fertilisation of a female sex cell by a male sex cell. Ergo two sexes. That there may be sexual development differences/disorders does not change the fact there are only two sexes and even people with those differences/disorders are still either male or female

Don’t tag me anymore please @Alex122022 I have no interest in discussing anything with you any further. Therefore I am asking that you do not tag me any more.

I will not be tagging you after this post.

So you believethere are more than two sexes. Name them.

Oh, bloody hell, this is boring now. Knock your heads together, please. You are trying to out-wank each other in your wankiness. We all know that there are two sexes. That men do not belong in women’s spaces. That it is okay for women, who are conditioned to be people pleasers, to object when men invade their spaces. That not all men who invade women’s spaces are paedophiles or prospective sex offenders but rather operating from a place of male privilege where they get to occupy the majority of the world and we are expected to acquiesce. We all know that pre-pubescent and pubescent girls and then full women are entitled to privacy and their own spaces. Can some here stop disappearing down bizarre rabbit holes? The majority of us here know and understand the truths and we work within them. Also, if you can’t be arsed with any of this BS, buy your kid a Dry Robe (you can get a cheap and efficient one in Primark) and have done with the whole changing room existential crisis. Plus, you get home from the torment that is the public pool earlier.

Even something that is very rare does exist, doesn't it? And if your framework can't deal with - it's a problem of the framework, not of the people who are not covered by it.

You know you did. When @Taztoy said every human who was not female was male you told her she was wrong. Rudely

I have just tried to adjust to the tone they were using. If someone believes that they need to be direct I will respond in a similar way. And obviously they are wrong - as you have just confirmed.

Therefore they must be a different sex. As humans only have two sexes, male and female, you are therefore saying people with a VSD are not human.

That is a very creative interpretation of many things - because I have never claimed that there are only two sexes. This is a claim made by @Taztoy. I'm therefore rather surprised and confused how you come up with such an accusation,

I find it abhorrent of you, and amazingly ignorant. You tried to co-opt people with VSD into your argument without even knowing what VSD are.

Quite on the contrary - this was the very reason I did deliberately not agree with the claim that everyone who is not female must be male. As I have stated before, I lectured on human development enough to understand that there are areas where this is actually quite complicated.

Very rare. And also further affirming the sex binary.

In what way does the existence of individuals with testes and ovaries confirm a binary classification system?

Incidentally: why can't any of the very vocal posters here provide a very simple definition of male and female? It really can't be that difficult if it is - as you claim - so easy.

Very rare. And also further affirming the sex binary. Do try harder dearie.

But you did. You know you did. When @Taztoy said every human who was not female was male you told her she was wrong. Rudely. You then said “intersex” people were not male or female. Therefore they must be a different sex. As humans only have two sexes, male and female, you are therefore saying people with a VSD are not human. Which is disgustingly crass of you. I find it abhorrent of you, and amazingly ignorant. You tried to co-opt people with VSD into your argument without even knowing what VSD are.

So how do you class someone with ovaries and testes?

Albeit rare, it does exist: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0022346825000326

Of course you did - problem is: I never said so. So why would you accuse me of something I didn't do?

So what sex are these humans that are neither male nor female @Alex122022 ? “Intersex” is not a sex so what is the name of this third sex, what gametes does it produce and what is its role in reproduction?

Noooo I said you. @Alex122022 implied they were inhuman by stating they were neither male or female. Nice try though.

Where do I argue against them? I just say that your claims that it is illegal is not correct.

By claiming that something is illegal that is clearly not, @Taztoy actually puts people at risk who mistakenly believe in rights that do not exist.

It depends largely on the operator of the pool, on T&Cs and other factors.

As I have already explained ad nauseam: the fact that something is legal or illegal does not necessarily mean I agree with it. These are two very separate things.

It’s a bit odd trying to argue against and undermine protections that support the safety and dignity of my ten year old while she changes. Why would you even do that?

You attacked me. And accused me of saying that intersex people were inhuman. That was the word you used.

I never said any such thing.

Because someone complained to MNHQ - quite simple.

But still - @Namelessnelly attacked me for taking you seriously, because you claim that no humans exist that are neither male nor female, didn't you?

Your post where you claimed that I said intersex people were inhuman - which was the exact word you used - has been deleted.

why do you think that is?

It was actually @Namelessnelly whose post one could interpret in such a way that you called them inhuman. So please do discuss it with them and not with me.

I never claimed you did and I object to you accusing me of something I have never said.

I did not ever use the word inhuman. Nor did I ever ascribe any of the characteristics in the definition (my screenshot is awaiting review) to any individual who is intersex.

it is a barefaced lie to say that I did.

text of definition here:

inhuman?

adjective. lacking qualities of sympathy, pity, warmth, compassion, or the like; cruel; brutal. an inhuman master. Synonyms: brutish, savage, hard, callous, cold, unsympathetic, unfeeling. not suited for human beings.

You mean you are unable to provide a clear definition of male and female? Why don't you just say so?