Dads using female communal changing room

The only one traumatising a dad who insists on using the female facilities is the father who puts himself in a position where he is embarrassing dad.

Him then being told that he's a perv due to him breaking the law and violating the privacy dignity of girls is his fault and of his own making. His behaviour is that of a pervy man using his daughter as a human shield and then trying to guilt women into silence.

It still violates the privacy and dignity of those other girls regardless of intentions.

If you don't want to be called a paedo in front of your daughter, you don't display behaviour that a perv might have.

It's simple safeguarding protocols that apply equally to adults who have no intention of being a perv precisely to prevent pervs from manipulative behaviour.

You treat anyone who demonstrates unsafe behaviour as a perv regardless of whether they are as a front line defence against paedos.

Otherwise all the paedos would just invade the women's and get a hardon whilst changing their daughter's claiming it was somehow necessary.

It's abusive behaviour to then gaslight women by accusing them of harm when they say no and demand the man leaves. None of them have created the situation. It's a situation where the entitled male is entirely responsible.

Excellent idea. If there is an accident and no female paramedics are available, we just let people die?

how are the daughters traumatised?

What actual harm does he do? His presence?

But it is good to know how many mothers don't seem to care about the wellbeing of children if they can attack men.

I'm quite fortunate that IRL my experiences have been very different.

Decent fathers know they don't go in female changing rooms for the protection of their own child and others.

Its a simple as that.

A man who doesn't understand that is unsafe around children.

Most likely? No harm at all. And with one man and a large group of women, it is much more likely that one of the women has paedophilic tendencies - simply based on statistics.

I find it fascinating however how preconceived opinions are so hard to shake. I don't think the behaviour of the father was sensible - but from experience, I know how one can get into a situation like this without much thinking.

It is incredibly unlikely that this person causes any harm (and Equality Act and Supreme Court Ruling are not as clear cut as you think) - but discomfort is of course also not ideal. So yes, he should not be hear. But I don't think it's really justifying a lynch mob.

And that some people would deliberately traumatise the daughter for the sins of the father is an interesting idea - I would say that you are a much bigger risk to your children and society.

Most likely? No harm at all. And with one man and a large group of women, it is much more likely that one of the women has paedophilic tendencies - simply based on statistics.

I find it fascinating however how preconceived opinions are so hard to shake. I don't think the behaviour of the father was sensible - but from experience, I know how one can get into a situation like this without much thinking.

It is incredibly unlikely that this person causes any harm (and Equality Act and Supreme Court Ruling are not as clear cut as you think) - but discomfort is of course also not ideal. So yes, he should not be hear. But I don't think it's really justifying a lynch mob.

And that some people would deliberately traumatise the daughter for the sins of the father is an interesting idea - I would say that you are a much bigger risk to your children and society.

lol didn't take long for your mask to slip and your MRA to show through did it 🙄

Most likely? No harm at all. And with one man and a large group of women, it is much more likely that one of the women has paedophilic tendencies - simply based on statistics.

I find it fascinating however how preconceived opinions are so hard to shake. I don't think the behaviour of the father was sensible - but from experience, I know how one can get into a situation like this without much thinking.

It is incredibly unlikely that this person causes any harm (and Equality Act and Supreme Court Ruling are not as clear cut as you think) - but discomfort is of course also not ideal. So yes, he should not be hear. But I don't think it's really justifying a lynch mob.

And that some people would deliberately traumatise the daughter for the sins of the father is an interesting idea - I would say that you are a much bigger risk to your children and society.

Most likely? No harm at all. And with one man and a large group of women, it is much more likely that one of the women has paedophilic tendencies - simply based on statistics.

I find it fascinating however how preconceived opinions are so hard to shake. I don't think the behaviour of the father was sensible - but from experience, I know how one can get into a situation like this without much thinking.

It is incredibly unlikely that this person causes any harm (and Equality Act and Supreme Court Ruling are not as clear cut as you think) - but discomfort is of course also not ideal. So yes, he should not be hear. But I don't think it's really justifying a lynch mob.

And that some people would deliberately traumatise the daughter for the sins of the father is an interesting idea - I would say that you are a much bigger risk to your children and society.

A man who thinks his daughter is more important than the privacy and dignity of all the other girls is NOT a nice man no matter what he thinks of himself.

You've said you wouldn't want a man in the changing rooms with a 13 year old daughter, whys that, what harm would that man be doing?

"I don't give a shit about the impact on the kid" - so you are most likely worse than the father.

The father doesn't cause any harm - you do deliberately cause harm.

Safeguarding in the context of changing rooms means no men in female changing rooms. That includes "nice men"

But it is not just about younger children.

It is about a man in a woman's changing room.

What if a swim team practice had just finished and ten teen girls came in to change whilst the man was there with his daughter.
Or a woman's water aerobics ?
For that matter any woman at all.
Are they expected to change in front of this man???

It is very simple. No men in woman's changing rooms.

"telling him to leave" is quite different from calling him "paedo" in front of his daughter and other children, isn't it?

It obviously also trivialised paeodphiles and makes safeguarding so much harder.

Equality Act 2010

No - but this was about younger children.

I did not want to excuse the behaviour (I don't know the background after all), but explain that it is sometimes very difficult. A little bit of understanding sometimes goes a long way.

And there are a wide range of responses between "doing nothing" and "calling paedo".

"telling him to leave" is quite different from calling him "paedo" in front of his daughter and other children, isn't it?

It obviously also trivialised paeodphiles and makes safeguarding so much harder.

Please do quote the law.

What actual harm does he do? His presence?

But it is good to know how many mothers don't seem to care about the wellbeing of children if they can attack men.

I'm quite fortunate that IRL my experiences have been very different.

It's about 8 to 11 year olds.

That's too old.

They aren't 'young children'. They are children going through puberty and who are protected by law from twatty dad's who then want to abuse women for defending girls legal rights.