Dads using female communal changing room

I don’t see an issue with this, where we go both mums and dads are free to use male or female for swimming lesson because it’s so busy. There are plenty of private cubicles for everyone to use for changing.

Only women should use women's. End of.

If it's only children changing why cant he use the men's communal changing room? It would only other men with their children changing.

I remember this happening with one dad when I took DDs swimming. It made no sense as it was a school and it wasn't like there would be random men getting changed in the boys' changing room, only those that were there with their kids for swimming. And the girls' changing room was rammed anyway, full of mums with their kids. There were women getting changed after the mum and baby session and he got very short shrift.

Good god . He needs to get out and stay out of report this

Chances are it’s just a normal dad changing his kid

this - you’ve said it already

statistically your child is in more danger feo
you than random adults

I would think the men were clueless. They have seen Female Changing and thought "My child is female and she's the one changing". They have simply not thought women might also be changing or that older children might also be having lessons. Ask the club to make it clear to all parents that they should use the appropriate changing room or a cubicle.

This!!!!

A single sex space

women (or men) are entitled to this.

what happens when a man enters a women’s single sex space? What sort of space does it become?

Thanks @RedToothBrush

it seems some men have a problem with women saying no. And thy will continue to try to find a justification for them entering a single sex space in contravention of the law.

I expect that the pool will tell the man not to enter the womens changing space

if he continues after being told one way or another then he is a creepy pervert who gets his rocks off from pushing women’s boundaries and he deserves to be reported to the police.

"So the point still stands. Its illegal for men to be in female only spaces."

There is no argument that it would be illegal if the person refuses to leave - but as far as I can see, simply entering without any intent to cause harm is not illegal.

I did not start making legal arguments - I don't need the law to know that it is not appropriate. But you did - so please do provide some evidence.

@RedToothBrush can you point us to the specific statutory provision that makes it illegal for men to be in womens spaces?

To be clear, I'm not trying to justify voyeurism or any other sort of perverse behaviour but out of curiosity about the law.

It remains illegal for men to be in female spaces.

The responsibility may not lie with an individual but the premises.

If someone refuses to leave then yes they may well be personally in breech of various other laws.

So the point still stands. Its illegal for men to be in female only spaces.

All posters are doing in questioning this is trying to find a loophole.... Why would you do this?

Its entitled and creepy af....

Why would you NOT say something?!?

Are you drunk

This happened when I took my daughter swimming. But there were also lessons for toddlers so their Mums’ were also getting changed. There was an older man in there helping his wife/daughter change a child! I asked one of the women if she was ok with a man being in there while she was getting changed and she said that she didn’t mind and felt safe! I thought this was bizarre but her opinion. I didn’t agree! Anyway I sent an email and the following week he wasn’t there. For context there are private spaces for families so hopefully they were advised to use them. No need for a man to enter a women’s changing room!

I've got that question in mind too.

Indeed, there is no autonomy for children - they have to be forced to do what the parents want, even if they are uncomfortable. As long as the parents are female of course.

Are you completely out of your mind? Why do you keep making up these imaginary scenarios as to why a male paramedic should be allowed in the female changing rooms? I wonder if somehow, you are using these imaginary scenarios as some sort of nefarious excuse you could use to access the female changing rooms whilst there are a crowd of young girls in there? This isn't the first time in this thread that you have said it.

Wtf I'm the parent not him I decide what he does at 4 its called parenting

Please tell me. I have not been told.

The Equality Act that has been mentioned does not apply to individuals. And it is unlikely that voyeurism takes place based on the description. So what act?

You've already been told.

Do you have problems with reading as well as reading emotions?

Why would I lack empathy? All I said is that I can see fairly innocent reasons why this father is there, and that it would be better to tell him (or a member of staff) than shouting "paedo".

You say: "the law does and always has forbidden you to enter a female changing room"

Which law? The supreme court ruling does not state this but simply clarifies the interpretation of the Equality Act - but this act does not apply to individuals.

Is it? Which law does make it illegal?

You from your previous posts, seem to lack any empathy for girls and women. Irrespective of your feelings, imagining that it is OK for you to be present in a female girls (of varying ages, from under 10's to young teens) changing rooms, simply because you have a daughter, shows that you are totally tone deaf to the situation, where those young girls do not appreciate you being there. You are a male (as am I), therefore the law does and always has forbidden you to enter a female changing room where young girls are changing, added to which, there are no "grey" areas in the Supreme Court ruling regarding biological sex being the deciding factor, despite some people wanting it to be otherwise.