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Women and anyone with a cervix

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Zillyzillyzillymouse · 22/01/2026 17:09

Women and anyone with a cervix is written in my weekly magazine. What absolute rubbish is this? It gives me the rage.

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2dogsandabudgie · 22/01/2026 18:12

TheLightSideOfTheMoon · 22/01/2026 17:57

He.

There’s no need to be deliberately unpleasant.

You’re helping no one and achieving nothing by being transphobic.

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But she's not a he. She's still a woman. Stop pandering to this nonsense.

LakieLady · 22/01/2026 18:12

BIossomtoes · 22/01/2026 17:27

I’m fine with it.

Me too!

Ginburee · 22/01/2026 18:12

igelkott2026 · 22/01/2026 17:58

Has a transman actually ever got offended at being called a woman when they go for a smear test?

Yes.

Travelodge · 22/01/2026 18:12

JHound · 22/01/2026 18:07

But they are being acknowledged in a way that does not erase women. So what’s the issue?

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The issue is that it’s essentially silly. And its corollary is "men and anyone with a penis", implying that some people with penises are not men but women. But the issue is also that they can call themselves whatever they like, but the rest of us shouldn’t be gaslit and forced to play along.

TheLightSideOfTheMoon · 22/01/2026 18:12

Zillyzillyzillymouse · 22/01/2026 18:11

A trans man is a woman.

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No one is denying that trans men are biological women.

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Zillyzillyzillymouse · 22/01/2026 18:11

Ginburee · 22/01/2026 18:10

I am the mother of a trans man and he has a cervix.
Are you posting to start yet another rage bait post?
People have cervix's and their cervix is nowt to do with you.

A trans man is a woman.

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Ginburee · 22/01/2026 18:10

I am the mother of a trans man and he has a cervix.
Are you posting to start yet another rage bait post?
People have cervix's and their cervix is nowt to do with you.

silverwrath · 22/01/2026 18:10

TheLightSideOfTheMoon · 22/01/2026 17:21

My boyfriend has a cervix. He’s a trans man.

They are including trans men. This is a good thing.

Then they should say that.

Women and trans men. Because both need smears.

That's inclusive.

ColinOfficeTrolley · 22/01/2026 18:09

Well it did say 'women' and every with a cervix, so I can't get mad at that 🤷

Picklelily99 · 22/01/2026 18:09

I got that completely wrong! I meant to say, IS a women, WAS a woman, will always BE a woman, but who wants to IDENTIFY as a man, but who knows that they aren't. Biologically. But it's up to them what they CALL themselves. Is that right?

BookAndPiano · 22/01/2026 18:08

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JHound · 22/01/2026 18:07

Travelodge · 22/01/2026 18:06

Because the original quote was presumably aimed at biological women who choose to call themselves men (or not women, anyway). Yet it’s vital that in medical settings they are treated as women.

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But they are being acknowledged in a way that does not erase women. So what’s the issue?

PatchouliPrincess · 22/01/2026 18:07

Why can't they use 'biological women' if they want to be inclusive.

Travelodge · 22/01/2026 18:06

JHound · 22/01/2026 18:00

??

What does any of that have to do with acknowledging them in a way that does not erase women.

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Because the original quote was presumably aimed at biological women who choose to call themselves men (or not women, anyway). Yet it’s vital that in medical settings they are treated as women.

Aluna · 22/01/2026 18:05

Why should anyone be defined by a body part?

Shedmistress · 22/01/2026 18:03

JHound · 22/01/2026 18:00

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What does any of that have to do with acknowledging them in a way that does not erase women.

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What text are you referring to here that erases women?

SpaceRaccoon · 22/01/2026 18:03

The reason I have an issue with this, btw, is that believing humans can change sex, or have a separate "gender" essence, is a religious belief, and I firmly believe that healthcare shouldn't be influenced by any religion or ideology.

BIossomtoes · 22/01/2026 18:02

surrealpotato · 22/01/2026 18:00

Because reality and truth matter.

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Only in some instances apparently.

Tadpolesinponds · 22/01/2026 18:02

TheLightSideOfTheMoon · 22/01/2026 17:57

He.

There’s no need to be deliberately unpleasant.

You’re helping no one and achieving nothing by being transphobic.

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What right do you have to dictate that others must use inaccurate pronouns? Getting what sex people are confused does a lot of damage. In medical contexts, as well as others contexts.

JHound · 22/01/2026 18:00

viques · 22/01/2026 17:56

I would have thought hoped that trans people had enough sense, being grown up adult humans and all, to know that their original sex still dominates their body and should be taken into account when thinking about potential sex based illnesses, such as cervical cancer, ovarian cancer, testicular cancer, penile cancer, prostate cancer.

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What does any of that have to do with acknowledging them in a way that does not erase women.

surrealpotato · 22/01/2026 18:00

Murriams · 22/01/2026 17:12

It really doesn't bother me, im baffled by people's rage at inclusive language

Because reality and truth matter.

Travelodge · 22/01/2026 18:00

Murriams · 22/01/2026 17:12

It really doesn't bother me, im baffled by people's rage at inclusive language

"Inclusive"? Why include men if you mean women? Why include women if you mean men?

Anyone with a cervix is a woman, their sex is female whatever gender they want to identify with.

strugglingwithlife · 22/01/2026 18:00

Totally agree. Load of woke bollocks. The world's gone mad

ScupperedbytheSea · 22/01/2026 18:00

The women who most need to be targeted to have cervical smears are often those in marginalised or vulnerable groups.

It might be because culturally it's not the done thing, English might not be their first language or they might have difficulty processing messages around medical issues.

Aside from the trans debate, saying 'women and those with a cervix' is not inclusive. It could actually exclude women who don't understand what the fuck that sevond bit means, and create a barrier to them accessing the care they need.

Simple language is really important for these things.

SpaceRaccoon · 22/01/2026 18:00

TheLightSideOfTheMoon · 22/01/2026 17:21

My boyfriend has a cervix. He’s a trans man.

They are including trans men. This is a good thing.

Your boyfriend is a woman so is already included.