Women and anyone with a cervix

Are you sure ‘My Weekly’ still exists? 🤔

I mean, I disagree. But even if a woman dressed as a man walked past me and I didn’t notice she was a woman, it still does not make her a man.

She is, and always will be, a woman.

But that isn't the problem. I don't care what anyone looks like, but object to a man or woman expecting me to believe that it's possible for them to change sex.

One of the problems with that is women for whom English is not the first language may not understand that applies to them and also women with low cognitive ability may not know it applies to them either.

The word woman is universally understood and changing the messaging in the way you suggest could mean that minority groups miss out on important health screening.

Most people who are offended by the use of the word woman used in this context are genderists. Trans men know they are woman and should seek out the appropriate healthcare.

If you have a cervix, you are a woman. End of.

Men don’t have a cervix, no matter how much oestrogen they take, or how big their breast implants are. And women can’t become men even if they have a mastectomy and no matter how much testosterone they take.

Whilst there are women who don’t have a cervix anyone with a cervix is a woman.

Is that clear enough?

Of course it's nonsense. You cannot change sex.

Well actually yes they do.
You probably have walked past many trans men and women and not had a clue they are trans. Nor should you as it really is none of your business.

Well , and there was me trying to be equitable and generous and acknowledge that sex based health issues apply to both sexes.

Next time I will just leave people to wallow and die in the pit of their own ignorance and unreasonable prejudice.

Flounce . Slams door. Comes back, slams door louder.

I do.

Surely anyone with a cervix is the logical thing to say. Saying women need cervical screening is including those of us who no longer have a cervix.

She is a woman. Nobody actually believes she is a man.

Definitely male. Sorry you’re not comfortable with it.

But not all women have a cervix.

Seems okay to me? Mostly it will be women who have a cervix but a small number of trans men might also. I think the language is fine so long as it states women first.

What’s tiresome is the ridiculous obfuscation of language to appease delusional individuals and their supporters. It’s not kind to lie.

Offended by reality?

There's nothing good about lying in order to include people in groups to which they categorically do not belong. It doesn't even work. Would a transman who didn't consider themselves a woman, and who had had a hysterectomy belong in this group?

Because some body parts do define us.

In a thousand years time when fleshed body parts have long gone your sex is identifiable in seconds just by looking at your pelvic bones. That is how important body parts are and how integral they are to defining our sex, and in this case, defining potential health issues.

To be fair, I've had a total hysterectomy and don't have a cervix so no longer need smear tests.

YANBU “people” don’t have a cervix, women have a cervix.

No not just women, women with a cervix. I'm still a woman but I don't have a cervix.

What gives me rage is transphobes making constant tiresome threads like this one.

Awaiting my predictable comment deletion 🥱🙄

I do think that this pandering with language needs to stop.

If a woman who identifies as a trans man needs to be addressed as a 'person with a cervix' before they go for essential healthcare for women then they clearly need to address their mental health issues.

As someone upthread said the only way you can be a trans man is by being a woman so health literature aimed at women clearly includes women who believe they are not women.

Erosion of language harms women, it is directly led to women's single sex spaces being invaded by men. That is more harmful than any hurt a woman who denies reality might feel.

Completely agree, it’s biologically impossible for anyone other than a woman to have a cervix, sick to death of women being trampled over by delusional men.

It should say all females who still have their cervix. I’m a woman and have no cervix since my hysterectomy so I could get called for a smear with that language. Similarly a male who thinks he’s now a woman could rock up. They need to use the word female as in sec and then even those who think they are now men will know it’s directed at them too

language really matters in healthcare and trumps feelings