Women and anyone with a cervix

No, I think it's accurate. Particularly when looking at the co-existing MH issues that present alongside the desire to, and belief that you can opt out of your sex class by altering your appearance.

I think you think people with English as a second language are thick. They really aren’t.

Just as much as women. Women with a cervix is correct. Not sure why it is so hard for people to understand that not all women have a cervix and if they don't they don't need cervical screening. If you want accuracy you can't just pick which bits you want to be accurate about.

I wonder why so many can see only women can have a cervix but can't accept that not all women do.

To be clear I no longer have a cervix, I dont need cervical screening, I am still. woman.

Oops. Sorry. Quoted wrong person!

So woman means adult human female, as those are the only people who would need a cervical smear, so therefore excluding those males claiming a trans identity. Gotcha.

No, as I said, it’s not inclusive to those who understand ‘women’ but not the rest, and would think, quite understandably, that women and anyone with a cervix means women and some other group. Another group than women is likely to mean men. In other words, they could be put off by thinking this is a mixed-sex service.

Why are you addressing it to me? Please address this to the poster I was replying to who doesn’t want to bother with gender wars.

So the added 'and anyone with a cervix' is complete nonsense?

How do you know what helps them? Do you not think describing them as mentally unstable is somewhat mysogynist?

They deserve to have help with their mental health issues as well, and pandering to them with 'inclusive' language that pretends they are men but with a cervix where women only have one does not help them.

Gender wars have to do with all women personally. They are a misogynistic attack on women's rights.

Mentally unstable women then.

It's othering language as though women only consisted of body parts. Women covers the matter entirely, only women have a cervix and someone with a cervix is a woman.

People who identify as women have been respected by being addressed directly. Non binary people and transmen have been respected by being addressed too.

Are you only happy if the world pretends that people with cervixes that don't identify as women just don't exist? Or would you rather those people not be offered the appropriate health care? They deserve to get cancer then?

And no man has ever had a cervix. And no male is a woman. If we’re being totally accurate.

If you read my posts you'd see they did tell me. Of course id just had an operation so maybe not that alert. Irrelevant if you are for an accurate statement. Only women have a cervix. Some women have a cervix. Both are accurate.

The issue is that presumably you knew that your cervix was being removed (for medical reasons) and until that point the only way you knew you had one was because you are a woman? If it just said 'smear tests for women', you would carry on and book an appointment knowing that your cervix had been removed? Did they not tell you that you'd not need smear tests any more?

Only biological with a cervix have a cervix. No point me turning up for cervical screening. People go on about accuracy and facts and the fact is being a woman does not mean you have a cervix.

I reckon you put on a pair of manly jeans and maybe a muscle vest?

And offer plenty of un-asked-for opinions on all sorts of things, especially to women you don't know.

And be better with a power drill.

That sort of thing, I guess.

I think we should demand that India Willoughby show us his cervix if he's so kindly offered.
I think I'd pay to see him have a smear.

Ah so you know they are not really the opposite sex but you’re willing to lie and pretend you do? If you truly believed they were the opposite sex you would treat them as such in all scenarios.

So how does someone live “as a man”. Without using sexist, outdated stereotypes, can you explain how someone born female can live as a man?

As the @TheKeatingFive said, pandering to this is not helping your sisters.

These men are enabled by the fact that we have mangled language.

If they are not women for the purpose of changing rooms then they are not women!

it's really simple.

Calling men women and pretending they can have cervixes is not helping to secure single sex changing spaces for nurses. Quite the opposite in fact.

Just stick to facts.

But what does 'living as a woman/man' mean? (My original question)

What do you mean seeing them 'largely' as women? Are you saying they are women sometimes but not other times? How/when does it change?

How do you explain treating them as women sometimes but then not other times? Isn't that a confusing and unfair thing to do?