Why does society hate fat people

It's a moral failing. You're unable to control yourself. I'm saying this as a former fatty for many years who has now developed morals, apparently, via Mounjaro!!!!!

You can't force people to find everyone attractive, and following, to be more helpful

It's not even about being acceptable or not, but you react more positively to people you find more attractive, or you relate with

I am not pushing for discrimination at all, but it's human that people give better treatments to someone they're naturally more attracted to. That's life.

Everyone does it.

I tend to agree with this. As a species, we're fairly new. Technology aside (due to brain size), we haven't evolved so much beyond our origins (yet), a lot of our behaviour is testament to this.

Keep telling yourself that

It's especially true in childcare settings, most people simply won't employ overweight nannies

@BubblesandTiara it is not all in the heads of fat people. The net effect of the (apparently acceptable) attitude you describe is that fat people face continual disapproval and poorer treatment day in day out. It’s not “hate” in the sense of deliberate behaviour, but the effect is still negative and harmful. And not at all the same as you being ignored when scruffy.

Disgust? Disgust?? I've never felt 'disgust' at someone's ill health! I am shocked anyone would even use that word. Sympathy, empathy, care, compassion, sadness. But 'disgust'? Where did you get that from?

I've had the same experience (name calling from strangers) as someone who is objectively ugly, regardless of my weight - it's my face, there's nothing I can do about it. I agree with you 100% about the confidence argument. In fact, some of my worst memories are of this happening when I did feel confident - having dressed up, put make up on - and was cut down sharply by some bloke who thought he was hilarious shouting insults at me.

Have you seen the number of nasty comments, from men AND WOMEN, about toned and fit women, saying that muscles make them look like men (as if) and a long list of insults I can't be bothered to repeat.

Haters gonna hate, insecure people will always need to find a target. Normal people just get on with their life.

It's a shame that on the other hand, discussing being overweight or stating that someone is fat is seen as body shaming and hatred. Sometimes it's just factual.

I don’t think it’s anything to do with perceived attractiveness or confidence etc.

From experience,

I think it’s because overweight people are perceived as a burden. I’ve worked quite a few jobs that have involved running teams and team activities and 90% of the time there are eye rolls, sighs, or despondent looks from at least one person when teamed with somebody overweight, even when they try to hide it, because the immediate assumption is that the overweight person is going to be less able and contribute less because they are perceived as being lazy,undisciplined and weaker, leaving others to carry their share.

These sorts of opinions spill over into numerous areas…work life, team sports, group activities etc.

Its sounds cruel, and it is, but I think its a bit tribal and ‘survival of the fittest’.

It's a bias. It comes from what we see on TV and the media, what we've heard all our lives, books, magazines, films, books. Most people wouldn't really know why fat=bad, it's just a bias( unconscious for many) they have. It's everywhere, if you are fat you should lose weight. Even 'body positivity' is going against the grain so cements that fat is bad in our unconcious minds.

Most men I have met equate being slimmer with being more attractive and that's just the way it is. Men didnt really look twice at me when I was fat.I know my husband still loved me when I was fat and still found me attractive but I also know he prefers me the healthy weight I am now

I think it's a lot more to do with themselves. They are feeling themselves superior more than the other way around iyswim. The notice of the fat person is only useful to bolster their own self perception.

It’s because they link it with laziness and greed and lack of self control.

I get your point, but that answers the question doesn't it?
Society does not HATE fat people, fat people feel like they are being hated.

Talking in the most general terms, but you get the idea.

I think it may be yourself who hasn’t understood @BubblesandTiara ’s point.

I think it’s viewed by many as a character flaw and unattractive.

In one of my friendship groups, there is one lovely but extremely fat woman. We’ve all talked about her size, behind her back. I hear similar comments about a work colleague. ‘She’d be pretty if she wasn’t so fat/she must be ruining her health/why doesn’t she start Mounjaro?…’

The stigma is deeply ingrained. It’s not right, but it won’t ever change.

@BubblesandTiara I think perhaps you haven't understood my point. I said it isn't individual hate. But continual unfriendliness and unkindness (based on the apparently acceptable idea that it's ok to be a bit mean to unattractive people) from the majority of people can feel like you are hated. And you don't have the ability to step out of that by making a different choice tomorrow.

I firmly believe it’s because people think fat = lazy ☹️

you are missing the point - people react to what they find attractive.

Nothing to do with hatred. If you decide to take it as being hated, it's on you, not on the general public.

My mother was definitely a "fatist". Every time she saw anyone large she would make comments, wouldn't make friends with anyone overweight and freely admitted she would never employ a fat person.

Come on, surely you can fathom the difference here? You can easily dress in a way that isn't perceived as a "right state". Obese people cannot decide from one day to the next to instantly become a healthy weight. So they face that "unfriendliness" continually, which certainly does start to feel like hate after a while. Even if each individual person is just being unfriendly and unkind, rather than actively despising.

People are inclined to be nicer to people they find physically attractive and generally speaking being fat isn’t physically attractive. I say that as someone who has been very overweight; I wasn’t physically attractive and I could barely look at myself in the mirror.

What do you believe they’re based on then?

I wouldn’t say they’re based on attractiveness per se, in the sense of being pretty and young (although that definitely comes with benefits) . However I do think judgements are ultimately based on how well put together you look. Such as, are you well groomed, dressed well and appropriately for the occasion, clean looking etc…

Because it's seen as the manifestation of greed and laziness and a lack of self control. None of those are likeable characteristics.

but being less friendly doesn't mean they "hate" you?

I also get more help in general when I am wearing a dress than baggy and ripped oversized tracksuits, unless I am around a gym. It doesn't mean people "hate" me because they are less friendly when I look a right state.