Trump speech at DAVOS

Plenty of evidence that DT is losing whatever marbles he ever had. Surely US government have a procedure for removing a sick/incompetent president? I recall Tunisia used their constitution to remove their president Bourghiba when he became erratic due to arteriosclerosis and other conditions.

However I suspect he is a useful idiot for powerful others behind him who are profiting from his actions.

Trump has tweeted that Mark Carney can't be in his special secret big boys club anymore.

Or he just forgot....

People with dementia don't always remember one day to the next & can be easily placated in some cases.

So is he full of shit? Is the whole Greenland thing off the table now after all his ranting? Someone must have told him to stop it.

What's staggering is that 11% of people said YABU.

I doubt it, they'll divert onto Chagos, as pp's are doing now.

Keen to support Trump & hammer Starmer on Chagos, silence on Trump disrespecting UK and European sacrifice in Afghanistan and Iraq.

I hope we never again help the US, its very clear that Trump (and any other MAGA Potus) will ever help Europe, they are all pro Putin and anti Ukraine/Europe.

I absolutely cannot get over this. This is a red line of disrespect. We lost 500 people over there, many of them in their teens and 20s.

The right wing in this country tend to be very supportive and protective of the military so I sincerely hope this paints Trump in a different light for them.

Here we go again. It's a bloody fairground ride. One person spouts shit, gets proven to spout shit, runs out of soundbites and what seems to me from the repeativeness and lack of understanding and depth to back the comment, leaves the thread, and then someone else joins it right back at the beginning with the first damn comment on the check list so we cycle through the same bollocks again.

At least read the bloody thread.

What do you think about Trump saying NATO never helps the US and European Troops "Held a little back from the front line in Afghanistan?"

I thought it was fantastic. He says it like it is and does what’s best for America unlike our leader who seems more bothered whether other country’s are being invaded rather than ours which is literally being invaded by tens of thousands of men and they do nothing. The same people criticising Trump also never seemed to mention the senile mess who was in office for 4 years previously

It's the 21st century version of Reagan's Strategic Defense Initiative, aka Star Wars.

I used to visit the US a lot, before Trump (I haven't been since he was elected),
and I've been asked
(1) Is London near England? (or maybe it was the other way round, is England near London)
(2) Is Canada east of the US?

Years ago, when we told some very nice Americans that we lived in Northern England they said Oh, you mean Scartland.

Bannon calls it “flood the zone with shit”.

I said you were unreasonable only because I think he’s crazy like a fox as opposed to belonging in Bedlam. Wasn’t it Steve Bannon who used advise him? Dead Cat on the table strategy or something- ie to distract from the thing that needs distracting from, throw in something OUTRAGEOUS.
Trump wants distraction from the Epstein files. Period.

I can well imagine Trump is thinking of it as being a literal.dome to be fair.

Trump introduced the idea last summer, and showed a picture of a golden dome. www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy33n484x0o

It's part of a fantasy that you can innovate out of Mutually Assured Destruction. Basically that the US could get to the point where they couldn't be hurt in a nuclear war because they would shoot down all the missiles. This is unlikely to ever work but it's tempting to believe in for 2 reasons:

1. Nuclear war is existentially horrifying. I do believe Trump (and Musk and others in their circle) are genuinely worried about it. Hence if anything playing too nice with Putin when he was making threats of MAD.
2. If you don't need to worry about MAD but other people.do, then you are insanely powerful. You can threaten others with nukes and they can't do anything to you. I don't think Trump would/wants to nuke anyone. I can definitely imagine him threatening to nuke countries to get their own way.

MAD was well, mad. As a means of ensuring peace it's not the best system but at least it was a type of system. I think the golden dome is really part of the current administration wanting to smash up everything in the belief they will be left with complete power once the dust settles. It does not bode well.

Again, I don't think it is possible that said golden dome would ever be a foolproof defence. But if Trump and his circle believe it would be then that's dangerous in itself. Plus in order to achieve that goal (total hegemony) they would need Canada, Greenland. So Trump is going to keep going back to threatening their autonomy again and again even if he is temporarily distracted. It's not just about rare earth IMO at least not for Miller etc.

I've tried twice now and nothing either time.

🤦🏽‍♀️ It’s not an actual golden dome.

its a complex system for missile defence basically to detect missiles being launched from other countries and then possibly to take them down.

I imagine there was much going on behind the scenes at Davos, perhaps pointing out (as I doubt his grasp of geography is great) where the US bases currently are in Europe and also two can play the tariff game.

Mark Rutte has confronted Trump about his lies

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15488287/Trumps-fresh-insult-European-Nato-troops-claims-stayed-lines-Afghanistan-NATO-chief-Rutte-told-soldiers-died-helping-America.html

Which is proving to be about as useful as a chocolate teapot. 3rd term and cancel the mid terms? Looking likely isn’t it.

Trump has managed to desecrate any notion of the rule of law. It’s abysmal how he’s been able to do this, but if nothing else it’s shown how it can be done when you have the right people in the right places, to get around the systems that are supposed to keep things in check, along with the cult of personality and a lot of money.

I hope in the longer term this brings change, and also wakes us up here just to how some are able to play the system and basically destroy it to get their way.

Dark times.

Johntorodesfatcheeks

The US dropped atomic bombs 1944 on the Japanese who then finally surrendered , this was punishment for Pearl Harbour in which US congress allowed Roosevelt to send troops and fight inWW2. If the Japanese had not bombed US ships at anchor in Pearl Harbour then had no intention of entering the war and remain
Isolationist.
It incorrectly stated in R4 other day that the UK benefited from the Marshall plan.
It was Europe in the 1980’s who poured money into Glasgow and Liverpool Stoke on Trent to repair WW2 war damage via the Garden Festivals, not the US.
We still had to repay the LendLease loans which took until year 2000, and the tanks and planes made in US factories had to be taken into Canada to be constructed and shipped on Canadian ships to the UK because US electorate did not want to fight in another European war.

Really? How odd. I did a "Find in page" search on the browser - Firefox - and both my name and CanadianJohn's popped up, with accompanying posts. Took me 20/30 seconds, perhaps.

The older among us may remember this, although Ronald Reagan (suspected of having dementia during his term) was Abraham Lincoln by comparison with the current incumbent.

What we have now is beyond satire.