To not get the Traitors

I know others really enjoy it. I have tried but I can’t get interested in it. I’m not a fan of Claudia either.

You really can't believe people actually love it? really?

You honesty can't see a different perspective other than your own?

Yes, I agree And 'I just can't shake my gut feeling'/'It's all I've got'.

There's also a dose of George Orwell in the (sometimes terrifying) displays of groupthink at the Round Table, when people who've been suspecting one player all day suddenly vote for someone completely different because their name has come up most at the table.

Ha, very well put, actually! 😆😄

There is no need to patronise those who dislike it. I understand it fully. It’s not exactly rocket science.

I hate the over dramatics. I find it uncomfortable to watch people playing out the worst parts of human nature and how it is edited in a way that over exaggerates that. The ridiculously long pauses etc. It is as cliche as reality TV gets.

My daughter loves it, she and my sister FaceTime so they can watch it together and chat about it. I’d rather stick hot pins in my leg. Very much each to their own.

Well put.

DP was scathing about me watching it, but has watched several episodes. Last night I put it on on catch up after I got in and he not only watched it with me, he made me pause it at one point while he went to get a drink from the kitchen. He's hooked.

Whatever you think of the premise, human psychology is fascinating and the way this has played out is really interesting. The Traitors had a 1 in 3 chance of picking a murder victim who didn't have a shield and got it right. They chose not to murder Faraaz which is dangerous for them. He was right to voice his concerns as it protected him. Had Rachel said what she said to Stephen about talking about him differently, he may not have fed into getting her votes at the RT in quite the way he did.

It's actually quite Beckettian now that you mention it! An evert-decreasing number of players are confined to the same space where they keep meeting for strange, repetitive rituals, at which they repeat the same words a lot, though rather than 'Let's go. We can't. Why not? We're waiting for Godot', it's things like 'I think it's yourself, Harriet' and 'I'm sorry, I hope I'm wrong' and 'Someone must be keeping me in for a reason.'

It’s just fun event television for the grey days in January. No-one takes it too seriously! I enjoy it, but it’s hardly Samuel Beckett. But all good fun.

Absolutely we can’t have shows just dedicated to us personally. That’s not how it works. They will go with what the majority find interesting or a current trending item.

like I’ve no interest in strictly or any soap opera.so I flip past anything on it or change channel, no biggie, others like it, I can’t imagine hating that others like ir or want to discuss it, I find that fairly self absorbed.

Kind of got into the Celeb one,..... bored rigid by the normal one and gave up on it couple of eps in. DH still going strong with it, which means he has it on in the background whilst I read and I silent cannot wait for the series to f*ck off and finish!

I think its completely over rated. I hate how over produced and staged reality tv is these days!

I can't believe people actually love it?.
Tv used to be a zillion times better than this. ...

Exactly.
Are we now at the point where we’re only prepared to listen to or be exposed to information that directly impacts us as individuals?

What happened to broad discussions about a range of topics? To understanding what is happening in society as a whole?

I blame the algorithms and the fact that nobody reads physical newspapers anymore!! We’re just fed things that align with our interests.

Do you hate it because it's not interesting to you, or because you feel it has no worth or for some other reason? Hate is a very strong word to use for a topic amongst others being discussed. I mean no one is ever going to like everything, we all have different tastes.

I think she looks fabulous, I can’t see anything weird looking about her. She’s clearly attractive, great hair, slim and fit and her wardrobe is really cool and edgy and fits the vibe.

It's not the kind of thing I usually watch (not into game shows or reality TV) but I'm really hooked on Traitors. I think it's really well done and Claudia is just brilliant. It's fun and camp, it has breathtaking scenery, and lots of surprises and cliffhangers.
Each to their own though.

I'm just going to support OP - I dont get it, have no interest in the show. Also, I dont get Claudia Winkleman - she looks so weird I just cant deal with it. I cant' take her seriously or listen to her.

But that’s why it’s fun - it’s so camp!

Did she?

Just avoid it if you aren’t interested 🤷🏼‍♀️

I understand why people have latched on to it, it’s just one of those programmes which has caught the imagination and people also like to be in on a trend so the more it’s talked about the more fans it gathers.

I don’t find it remotely engaging but I can see how others do.

There's the 'hooks' of each episode ending on a cliffhanger/mystery. The fact that we know the basic rules, but new rules and twists and complications keep getting introduced. The fact that people are playing for money, which often means a lot to them, for various relatable reasons.
Those things are all interesting to the human mind and emotions.
And it's all about people's interactions, relationships, strategies and motivations, which is always going to interest other people because we're social animals.
Then there's the gorgeous country setting and castle; the action and jeopardy of the missions; Claudia's clobber; the overall aesthetic of grandeur/Gothic/camp.
There are lots of points of interest.

I'd love to know what TV programmes are pointful. What are the criteria?

It's a game, they're getting into the spirit and using their imaginations.

is it boring? You don’t watch so I don’t see how you’d know.

How do you know something is boring if you've never watched it?