To not get the Traitors

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I could have written this. I hate reality TV and avoided the traitors but gave it a whirl and loved it. I think it's fantastic to have this 'shared thing' that everyone watches in real time, and leads to discussion. The psychology of it is fascinating.

I also don't get the strictly obsession though. That holds no interest for me. People dancing... Very dry

No link between intellect and reality TV at all. I was sitting around a dinner table of academics at different points of career- some professors and we were all discussing reality TV. I don’t watch much TV generally so felt a bit pushed out which was quite funny because, you know, we’re stereotypically sitting around discussing Freud and Foucault or something but in actual fact the conversation was Love Island, Traitors, MAFS etc.

I tried watching MAFS after they were raving on about it and thought it was dreadfully boring. Traitors is actually good though, the psychology is interesting from unconscious bias through to pack mentality.

Never watched it. Lifes too short.

In your opinion!

People that love it have not been ‘brainwashed’ as you put it. Maybe they just really enjoy watching it as a form of entertainment. I know I do and have watched quite a few of the non UK ones too. It’s quite disdainful to assume anyone that loves it has been brainwashed. Surely you are better than that. The reality is that it’s just a case of you and some others not really liking it and some who really do. It’s ok to not like something without assuming that those who do have been brainwashed. It’s just a difference of opinion.

It appeals to some people and not others (that much is clear) but I think it’s an individual thing rather than a sheep mentality thing. Quite a few of my friends / work colleagues love it and we’re ridiculously invested when it’s on. Others just can’t see the point. No one is right or wrong. My adult DD cannot understand why DS and I are hooked on it. She is of the opinion that it’s for boring people. I don’t think it’s a measure of intellect / whether you like reality TV in general or says anything about anyone as a person. People just like it or they don’t . Either is fine.

I’ve never watched it!

The audience has been brainwashed into loving it. So much advertising does wonders into thinking something is better than it actually is.
Claudia is just Claudia.

Why would I pour scorn on your choice of entertainment? I’m not a dick 🤷🏼‍♀️

Of course. But it didn't entertain me enough that I would go back and watch a second series. In fact, it got very repetitive watching the same group of people sit around a table night after night, arguing about who might or might not the the traitor. If you find that entertaining, that's great. Enjoy your programme. But I don't. We all have different tastes when it comes to TV. Feel free to pour scorn on my current favorites (Call the Midwife and The Forsyte Saga). Damien Lewis though..... ❤

It's very Christie too. The increasing paranoia as numbers decrease is a reality TV version of And Then There Were None.

Yeah load of crap ain't it, Golden balls all over again just in a different format

I agree, it's over-hyped and boring. Big Brother with murders.

Why does it have to have a point? Can’t entertainment just be the actual point of an entertainment programme?

Her hair is weird, it looks like its made from wood. Her face, also, wood stain colour. That fringe is extreme. She looks like a cross between Donatella Versace and British Spain pensioner. In a wig.

It isn’t really.
She has starred in this series so what they said is correct. You only really tend to hear from
previous contestants when they’re on uncloaked.
It hasn’t really launched any celebrity careers.

Well, the point of Strictly is to teach ballroom dancing to novice dancers and then assess them and ascertain which is the best dancer and has made the best progress. (Disclaimer - I'm aware that many of the novice dancers have prior experience of dancing).

The point of Great British Bake Off is to set a series of challenges to amateur bakers and then assess them and ascertain which is the best baker.

There isn't really much point to The Traitors. The participants don't learn any skills. It's more about luck than anything else. By the way, if other people enjoy the programme, that's great. Each to their own and all that. It's just that I probably won't bother watching it again.

I'm trying to think of the point of Love Island. Mmmm....... I might have to come back to you on that one.

Tell me you don’t understand without telling me 😂

Omg I love it!! Got into it after sleb Traitors and its one of the best things on TV IMO. really cleverly done. Claudia's outfits are to die for and shes brill in it, I never used to like her really.

Even DP who never watches stuff like TV series etc is hooked.

I cant wait for tonight eeeeeeek!!!!!

We are watching as a family, I am not keen on it, too predictable. Are we supposed to pretend all the "cliffhangers" are surprises?
That the loud mouthed James isn't just like every office arse.
That everyone picking on Jade all of the time with no valid reason isn't bullying.
Just seems to drag on with all the faux surprised faces gasping at every.little.thing.
But, the rest of the family enjoy it and watch stuff that I like in return, so it's not allll bad..

I dont like it either and really cant see why theres so much hype around it.

I cant get it either.

TV used to be X Factor and endless shitty reality TV shows that went way past what was acceptable. There was a show where people were fooled into thinking they were going into space, Big Brother series that chose contestants for how much they'd be ready to do on screen and routinely humiliated and distressed them, withholding food and not intervening properly when a Bollywood actress started receiving racist abuse. There was a show where a group of men competed for a date with a woman called Miriam who was revealed at the last moment not to be a woman. X Factor exploited young and clearly ND people and passed them through numerous selection rounds, making them think they were good singers before humiliating them on TV and in front of large audiences. These are just the ones I can remember.

It's fine not to like Traitors, it's fine to have some concerns about it (I'm a fan but I do sometimes worry about bit), but don't pretend it replaced a golden era of fabulous quality viewing.

I think they also display the BEST bits of human nature.
How they work together in the missions, and congratulate/cheer each other on.
The leaving speeches where they overwhelmingly revert to acting like friends and praising the other players.
How they support and sympathise when they all say why they want the money, which is often for poignant/difficult reasons.
How they name someone at the RT and follow it with 'Sorry'.
The genuine laughs and friendships they have (and I'm sure there's much more, it's just we don't see it all).