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To not get the Traitors

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BigKnickersSize18 · 21/01/2026 08:57

I'm listening to Scott Mills who has Harriet Tyce on. I know her primarily as an author. They're going on about it as if it's Operation Mincemeat. It's a telly game show not life or death.

I have watched it a few years ago and am not fussy. It's just another vehicle for people to be famous I guess.

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LittleBitofBread · 25/01/2026 15:48

Taytocrisps · 23/01/2026 20:04

Well, the point of Strictly is to teach ballroom dancing to novice dancers and then assess them and ascertain which is the best dancer and has made the best progress. (Disclaimer - I'm aware that many of the novice dancers have prior experience of dancing).

The point of Great British Bake Off is to set a series of challenges to amateur bakers and then assess them and ascertain which is the best baker.

There isn't really much point to The Traitors. The participants don't learn any skills. It's more about luck than anything else. By the way, if other people enjoy the programme, that's great. Each to their own and all that. It's just that I probably won't bother watching it again.

I'm trying to think of the point of Love Island. Mmmm....... I might have to come back to you on that one.

One point of The Traitors is for someone to win.
Other points are watching everyone’s behaviour and the psychology of it. And shouting at the telly when you think it’s obvious who’s a traitor and are frustrated at the faithfuls not figuring it out. And being excited when they DO start figuring it out. And gasping when a traitor double-crosses another traitor, or you think they’re going to. And watching the herd mentality kick in at the round table.
And cheering people on/laughing at them in the missions.
And Claudia’s wardrobe, and the scenery, and the general mix of genuine peril and warm camp.
And discussing it on here/with friends and family/at work.

Watching people learn new skills isn’t the only thing that has a point.

JudgeJ · 24/01/2026 18:07

pouletvous · 21/01/2026 11:21

Perhaps give Radio 4 a go OP, I don’t think bbc 1 or radio 2 is suitable for someone as intelligent and cultured as you are

Miaow! I was introduced to Traitors in Series 2 by my grandson, have now watched them all and love it and my car Radio only picks up Radio 4, or so I tell people, what does that make me in your spiteful opinions?

Snowdropsaremyfavourite · 24/01/2026 15:54

I love it! I love Stephen and I hope he gets a presenting job on the back of it. He's very likeable, so easy to watch and I find his facial expressions hilarious. I'd love to see him and Alan Carr presenting something together, that would be TV gold!

ConnieHeart · 24/01/2026 15:47

Are we only supposed to watch shows that are life or death then?

Clarabell77 · 24/01/2026 15:43

Watched the first episode of the first series and couldn’t even finish it. Thought all the contestants were just annoying wannabes and the full thing bored me.

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 24/01/2026 15:34

NotMeAtAll · 24/01/2026 15:20

68% of voters in the poll think the OP is being unreasonable.

But the question wasn’t whether she was unreasonable for not liking it and at no point has anyone suggested she has a moral obligation to watch it. 🤷🏼‍♀️

NotMeAtAll · 24/01/2026 15:20

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 24/01/2026 13:52

Nobody has actually said that though have they?

68% of voters in the poll think the OP is being unreasonable.

Bushmillsbabe · 24/01/2026 15:02

Daisywhatsyouranswer · 24/01/2026 14:06

I suspect they trialled fhat and it was less interesting, as you lose so much of the scheming, you loss when they know it’s right or if it’s wrong etc. the secret traitor was a good compromise I think

Yep, I liked the secret traitor thing. Although it was obvious from the start who it was, DH and I had it narrowed down to 2 from the start.

Daisywhatsyouranswer · 24/01/2026 14:06

CoastalCalm · 24/01/2026 13:54

I’d like them to do a version where the viewers don’t know who the traitors are either

I suspect they trialled fhat and it was less interesting, as you lose so much of the scheming, you loss when they know it’s right or if it’s wrong etc. the secret traitor was a good compromise I think

CoastalCalm · 24/01/2026 13:54

I’d like them to do a version where the viewers don’t know who the traitors are either

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 24/01/2026 13:52

NotMeAtAll · 24/01/2026 13:35

I saw it once. I have no desire to watch it again.

Anyone who thinks you're unreasonable for not liking the traitors can't be very bright. It's not a moral obligation to watch it.

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Nobody has actually said that though have they?

NotMeAtAll · 24/01/2026 13:35

BigKnickersSize18 · 21/01/2026 08:57

I'm listening to Scott Mills who has Harriet Tyce on. I know her primarily as an author. They're going on about it as if it's Operation Mincemeat. It's a telly game show not life or death.

I have watched it a few years ago and am not fussy. It's just another vehicle for people to be famous I guess.

I saw it once. I have no desire to watch it again.

Anyone who thinks you're unreasonable for not liking the traitors can't be very bright. It's not a moral obligation to watch it.

PocketBattleship · 24/01/2026 13:32

localnotail · 23/01/2026 20:15

Her hair is weird, it looks like its made from wood. Her face, also, wood stain colour. That fringe is extreme. She looks like a cross between Donatella Versace and British Spain pensioner. In a wig.

I always think she looks like she dressed up for Halloween years ago and never fully got out of costume.

PinkArt · 24/01/2026 12:59

BigKnickersSize18 · 24/01/2026 10:32

That was not the point of the thread. I don't understand the obsession with it on other TV and radio shows. I get that some people like it and some don't but it feels like we're being ordered to invest by the coverage. Last night's news feeds saying Rachel is going to be a megastar sort of proves the other point I was making.

It's hitting 11 million viewers, something even Strictly or I'm a Celeb don't manage. So it's something of interest to around 1 in 5 adults in the UK. That makes it an obvious choice for an entertainment segment.
Claudia's wardrobe gets discussed loads so it makes for an obvious fashion segment on something like This Morning.
It's an interesting way to view human behaviour so it triggers discussions about unconscious bias and group think behaviour.

TheLadyWithoutTheLamp · 24/01/2026 11:14

Bushmillsbabe · 24/01/2026 09:32

Yep, I have enjoyed all the other seasons, but this one has felt a bit rigged. I think most people predicted that Rachel would get the shield in the 'box of chance thing'. And then no one hardly put down Faraaz the whole way through, and then suddenly at the end people are voting for him.

Plus Rachel was just bloody annoying, super smug and manipulative - which I know is partly just being a traitor, but she took it to the extreme. I was happy Stephen won though, he seemed like a genuinely nice guy.

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@Bushmillsbabe.....I agree. Couldn't stand Rachel 🤣

Did you find that the celebrity traitors started you on the slide? I didn't enjoy it at al. Mainly because the Faithtful were ABSOLUTELY SHYTE, I figured they were shyte because they all knew each other so well and (,for example) Alan Carr couldn't have been a Traitor because hes so adorably cheeky (🤢)

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 24/01/2026 10:39

BigKnickersSize18 · 24/01/2026 10:32

That was not the point of the thread. I don't understand the obsession with it on other TV and radio shows. I get that some people like it and some don't but it feels like we're being ordered to invest by the coverage. Last night's news feeds saying Rachel is going to be a megastar sort of proves the other point I was making.

I wasn’t replying to you. I was responding to particular post.

BigKnickersSize18 · 24/01/2026 10:32

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 24/01/2026 09:01

Don’t be so patronising. I’ve not been brainwashed at all.
I watch very little TV ( due to time not snobbery) and do very little social media. As a family we pick programmes we can sit down together and watch. Traitors fits the bill and we all enjoy it.
I’m not evangelical about it and I don’t think everyone should watch it.
But I really, really hate people looking down on others because of what they choose to watch on TV. The suggestion that not watching this type of TV makes you superior to the uneducated masses.
Get a fucking grip!

That was not the point of the thread. I don't understand the obsession with it on other TV and radio shows. I get that some people like it and some don't but it feels like we're being ordered to invest by the coverage. Last night's news feeds saying Rachel is going to be a megastar sort of proves the other point I was making.

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LambriniBobInIsleworthISeesYa · 24/01/2026 09:34

We gave up on this season- first time as we’ve loved it previously, but it just felt a bit samey. I don’t think it helps that the celeb version in the autumn was fire… that was a hard act to follow.

Bushmillsbabe · 24/01/2026 09:32

TheLadyWithoutTheLamp · 24/01/2026 07:52

This season (4) I've stopped being entertained.

The format is old (despite some changes) and the contestants......oh my! I've been so bored.

Last night......I gave up the will, when the Faithful couldn't get their act together and allowed Rachel to do her thing by manipulating them all.

I'm
Out 😖

Yep, I have enjoyed all the other seasons, but this one has felt a bit rigged. I think most people predicted that Rachel would get the shield in the 'box of chance thing'. And then no one hardly put down Faraaz the whole way through, and then suddenly at the end people are voting for him.

Plus Rachel was just bloody annoying, super smug and manipulative - which I know is partly just being a traitor, but she took it to the extreme. I was happy Stephen won though, he seemed like a genuinely nice guy.

Bushmillsbabe · 24/01/2026 09:29

ThatCyanCat · 23/01/2026 11:18

It's a massive hit, with viewing figures hovering around 11 to 12 million, which is spectacular. However, for context, there are around 50-55 million adults in Britain, so if you don't watch it, you aren't actually very unusual.

How do they know how many are actually watching it? Is it that 11-12 million tvs have it on? In which case that could easily be over half the population watching it?

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 24/01/2026 09:08

Sartre · 24/01/2026 06:49

No link between intellect and reality TV at all. I was sitting around a dinner table of academics at different points of career- some professors and we were all discussing reality TV. I don’t watch much TV generally so felt a bit pushed out which was quite funny because, you know, we’re stereotypically sitting around discussing Freud and Foucault or something but in actual fact the conversation was Love Island, Traitors, MAFS etc.

I tried watching MAFS after they were raving on about it and thought it was dreadfully boring. Traitors is actually good though, the psychology is interesting from unconscious bias through to pack mentality.

MAFS got me through my PhD! It was my reward for a period of uninterrupted writing. An hour of mindless TV was just what I needed. In fact I have a framed quote from one of the contestants in my study as that was my catchphrase for months when people pissed me off 😂

I find the most interesting intelligent people have a range of interests and don’t just stick to ‘high brow’ entertainment.

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 24/01/2026 09:01

Aquarius1234 · 24/01/2026 00:48

The audience has been brainwashed into loving it. So much advertising does wonders into thinking something is better than it actually is.
Claudia is just Claudia.

Don’t be so patronising. I’ve not been brainwashed at all.
I watch very little TV ( due to time not snobbery) and do very little social media. As a family we pick programmes we can sit down together and watch. Traitors fits the bill and we all enjoy it.
I’m not evangelical about it and I don’t think everyone should watch it.
But I really, really hate people looking down on others because of what they choose to watch on TV. The suggestion that not watching this type of TV makes you superior to the uneducated masses.
Get a fucking grip!

BogRollBOGOF · 24/01/2026 08:04

I'm not generally into hyped things and reality TV but stumbled across the finale of season 2 and found myself enjoying it and have followed season 3, celebrity and season 4 since.

I enjoy the psychology of it, and the setting. Because the purpose is to solve problems, the contestants attracted in are thinkers with decent intelligence, while the audience gets the wider knowledge to see who's getting it wrong, and the people who are right getting overlooked.
The timed games and Claudia's dry quips remind me of the Crystal Maze.

DS 12 enjoys it and it's lovely to have some communal TV together.

The episodes clumping together for a few weeks is good scheduling for keeping the tension and pace up. It's not every night, and it's not for a long time.

TheLadyWithoutTheLamp · 24/01/2026 07:52

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 23/01/2026 20:15

Why does it have to have a point? Can’t entertainment just be the actual point of an entertainment programme?

This season (4) I've stopped being entertained.

The format is old (despite some changes) and the contestants......oh my! I've been so bored.

Last night......I gave up the will, when the Faithful couldn't get their act together and allowed Rachel to do her thing by manipulating them all.

I'm
Out 😖

ThatCyanCat · 24/01/2026 07:49

PurpleCoo · 24/01/2026 07:37

I could have written this. I hate reality TV and avoided the traitors but gave it a whirl and loved it. I think it's fantastic to have this 'shared thing' that everyone watches in real time, and leads to discussion. The psychology of it is fascinating.

I also don't get the strictly obsession though. That holds no interest for me. People dancing... Very dry

It's not really reality TV. It's an elimination game show like The Apprentice.