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Modern life doesn’t work

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DeluluTaylor · 21/01/2026 07:16

I say this reading thread after thread of people trying to work around nigh impossible situations.
I am sitting here with chronic IBS from stress, trying to get the kids out of the door, to a school which can’t meet their need, to go to a job where I’m firefighting as nothing is fit for purpose anymore. Finding care homes for younger and younger people. People who want to work but can’t as they have learning disabilities. Yet in the 20th century an estimated 40-70% of people with LD were employed.
I have 38p in my bank account and all my money goes on paying for a big house that we’re in from 6.30pm 7 the next morning, with a huge garden which none of us have time to do anything in. That I sit in on my own when the kids go to see their father in a bedsit at weekends. Yet there are families down the road with three kids and two parents in one room.

The whole thing is crazy. If you were going to arrive here from another planet and looked at late stage capitalism you would say why do you live like this? Getting in debt to spend two weeks abroad rather than making changes to make the other 50 weeks off the year more bearable.

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Kouklamo · 21/01/2026 08:55

QuiltyAsCharged · 21/01/2026 08:27

Children are a choice.

Aren’t we lucky that’s the case for most people in the uk these days. For how many women in the past and even the present in some places that is not the case.

Dunnocantthinkofone · 21/01/2026 08:55

Totally agree OP. It’s why minimalism exists as an alternative life style I guess

Ive always been amazed at the way we’ve all bought the term ‘disposable income’ Given disposable is to throw away

At what point did it become the aim to get rid of excess funds and the norm to expect that doing so would improve the overall quality of life?

bathsmat · 21/01/2026 08:55

This leapt out at me. In the past, pensions paid out from aged 60 and average life expectancy was around 65 or so. Pensions were generous but not paid for long. With life expectancy increasing, I think we have to accept working for longer

@Dancingsquirrels life expectancy isn’t 65 for people who got their state pension at 60. Where did you get that from?
Healthy life expectancy hasn’t increased at all so people can’t necessarily work longer and we have an ageing population which is putting a huge strain on public services.

aLFIESMA · 21/01/2026 08:54

When the 'Right To Buy' council house stock and 'Buy To Let' mortgages became commonplace things slowly began to change. Not for the better IMO.
I see young people struggling & families blown apart with stress and feel bitter at the few who made life so hard for so many at the stroke of a pen on some legislation. Housing, with decent affordable housing so much else, finances, mental health and solid family life will prosper for the good of the individual and society.

Imbusytodaysorry · 21/01/2026 08:53

ChicoryChina · 21/01/2026 07:31

Goodness me. People think all this stuff is normal because they are used to it. Kids who hardly see their parents as they eat breakfast at breakfast club, go to school, play at after school club and eat tea late that their parents have raced home to prepare, homework and bed later than anyone who like. Nice houses that are bigger than we need rammed full of stuff the end up in the landfill ruining the environment but costs us so much money we had to keep working long hours as we feel we need this stuff. We could all live simpler and slower lives if we all forgo a lot of the material things but society had told us that is what we need and what is normal. I could go on but nobody agrees and partly that because it’s hard to admit that your lifestyle isn’t ideal when you are told by everyone it is just the way it is and by the time you are deep in it’s impossible to change. And how do you make meaningful change on your own? It’s not a criticism of individuals but of our society. What a waste. A previous post was talking about how a mother should work longer hours because her husband wanted her to. It’s not always that’s simple and there is value in being physically and emotionally available for your children because you have done household jobs when they are at school. Just because others do doesn’t mean it is the only way.

I agree with you .

TheaBrandt1 · 21/01/2026 08:52

I resent the “gypsy” lifestyle. You can live like that because the rest of us play by the rules. I take it you avail yourself of the nhs?

bathsmat · 21/01/2026 08:52

@Fearfulsaints people don’t talk about how much work has changed. My school used to have a bar for staff.

Thirdchildjoy · 21/01/2026 08:52

I think lots of people make their lives too difficult trying "to keep up with the Jones".

The only thing that really matters is being happy with your family. I spend the minimum amount of time at work that I can to get the money I need from the Government and spend the rest of the time with my children. We have a fairly simple life but we are happy. I wouldn't change it.

Dancingsquirrels · 21/01/2026 08:50

sugarandcyanide · 21/01/2026 07:34

I agree. Life has got so expensive that we live to pay bills and buy food. Disposable income gets lower every year.

Families need two parents working to afford to live and they end up paying the equivalent of a second mortgage to someone else to look after their children. Then everyone is scratching their heads wondering why people aren't having children any more!

People will have to work till they're 70 and give up all of their healthy years. Social care is a disaster in this country and relatives can't help like they used to because they're at work, so those houses families had to give up their lives to buy will eventually end up being sold off to pay £6k a month in care fees.

But it's still the better of two evils to own the house as the alternative is to have no assets and be at the mercy of a state that has no money and even less inclination to look after their elderly.

People will have to work till they're 70 and give up all of their healthy years

This leapt out at me. In the past, pensions paid out from aged 60 and average life expectancy was around 65 or so. Pensions were generous but not paid for long. With life expectancy increasing, I think we have to accept working for longer

bathsmat · 21/01/2026 08:49

I bought a flat in SE London on a single person income, like many of my friends, who work in central london.

Its much harder re housing now.

THisbackwithavengeance · 21/01/2026 08:49

Well you could look at it with half full cup eyes rather then half empty.

You earn a salary from doing a job that does a good, positive thing (finding homes for vulnerable adults). You have a lovely big house. Your DCs are in education and you also have time to yourself when your DCs go to their dad’s. I think you’re winning at life!

Tabitha005 · 21/01/2026 08:49

Shedeboodinia · 21/01/2026 08:44

Agree. We have just downsized. I had a fear of everyone not having enough space or their own bedrooms but it has been remarkably liberating and absolutely fine.
We also have sen kids, that is the hardest part, sending them into school every morning knowing that their potential and needs are not met in the current system.
I read about people that live in microhomes, or buy a caravan and homeschool their kids and I do think there are ways out if you are willung to drastically rip up your current way of living. I am not that brave.. yet.

Microhomes are a fab idea but planning rules don't allow very much in the way of land to put them on - which has always struck me as ridiculous because they're only really another form of 'park home' and there's plenty of sites with those on all over the country.

The government would much rather create sprawling estates of cheaply-built, extortionately-priced little houses to make millions more of us mortgage and council-tax-trapped and buying into the 'ideal' of home ownership, good little consumers buying loads of shit we don't need to keep the economy chugging along.

Fearfulsaints · 21/01/2026 08:49

Aside from big meaningless things like housing costs. I actually think workplace culture has become really dour and as its where peoole spend most thier time we should jolly it up again.

When I first started work it was really common for large employers to have canteens with pool tables etc and people actually took thier lunch break. Fridays a lot of senior people stopped after lunch and went to thier members clubs, actual christmas parties, paid for. There would be pranks like turning everything upside down in the bosses office.

Over time I've seen lunch breaks dissappear, you pay for your own party, alcohol unheard of. Pranks woukd be a major hr issue.

sillygoof · 21/01/2026 08:48

We don’t all live that way. My life is very different to that, I’ve made different choices, so we still do cope with a mortgage and bills.

And I know people who complain about their bills who still pay for multiple streaming services, is there anything you can do to reduce your outgoings?

1457bloom · 21/01/2026 08:48

Life seems much harder and more expensive than it when I was growing up, I think this is because the world population has doubled over the last 50 years, putting a huge strain on resources.

JacknDiane · 21/01/2026 08:48

I agree @DeluluTaylor

Then when you finally sit down, and turn on the telly to the news 🙄 😑

ExpectZeroContext · 21/01/2026 08:46

Life has always been shit for 99% of the population of the planet at any given time in history.
We were led to believe that "things" like "democracy", "technology", "globalisation" would increase our quality of life.
It has in some ways, longer life expectancy, easier access to knowledge and education, but it has introduced a degree of ruthless competition for the resources that is killing us in the mental health front.
I am sorry for your troubles, OP. Good luck.

ThatCraftySquid · 21/01/2026 08:46

FastFood · 21/01/2026 08:44

Buying a house in central London isn't a life necessity. I bought a flat in SE London on a single person income, like many of my friends, who work in central london.

At some point, it also comes down to choices. Many of us would never had managed to buy our first property if we had decided to have our children first.

There's no right and wrong choice, but you need to accept the consequences of choices you make.

ILoveVitaminSea · 21/01/2026 08:45

But why is it everyone else’s fault? I don’t get these posts.

CaptainMyCaptain · 21/01/2026 08:44

SumTingWongwithme · 21/01/2026 08:38

Have you seen the price of housing? How is my 22 year old newly graduated DD meant to buy a house in central London where she has to work right now because of her job role? Many folk don't have control over where they live, expensive houses are not always big houses either in the SE. A high cost lifestyle is now the norm just trying to eat, pay bills and a mortgage.

I totally agree on consumerism though and the constant need / drive to own things, I think social media is very much to blame for fuelling this.

When did 22 year old graduates expect to be able to buy a house in central London. They would have rented and many would have continued renting all their lives or, at least, until they were much older. It was Thatcher that raised the expectation that everyone should own their own home. When I was at school in the 60s my teachers lived in council houses or flats. When I wanted to buy a house as a teacher in London I had to move a couple of hundred miles North to be able to afford it. (Late 80s).

Dweetfidilove · 21/01/2026 08:44

This sounds utterly miserable.

One parent in a large house with a large garden they're barely in, with 38p in their account. The other in a bedsit.

How are the children coping with all this?

FastFood · 21/01/2026 08:44

SumTingWongwithme · 21/01/2026 08:38

Have you seen the price of housing? How is my 22 year old newly graduated DD meant to buy a house in central London where she has to work right now because of her job role? Many folk don't have control over where they live, expensive houses are not always big houses either in the SE. A high cost lifestyle is now the norm just trying to eat, pay bills and a mortgage.

I totally agree on consumerism though and the constant need / drive to own things, I think social media is very much to blame for fuelling this.

Buying a house in central London isn't a life necessity. I bought a flat in SE London on a single person income, like many of my friends, who work in central london.

ThatCraftySquid · 21/01/2026 08:44

I think people wear rose-colored glasses when they think about "the past"!

I agree we should do better, a lot better, and standards are especially low in this country (England at least) but it's too easy to be blind to all the modern luxury and modern help and quality of life we actually have.

You don't even need to look back very far, It's outrageous to pretend people who lived in the poorest tenements in years and even decades after the 2nd WW had a life "that worked".

Shedeboodinia · 21/01/2026 08:44

Agree. We have just downsized. I had a fear of everyone not having enough space or their own bedrooms but it has been remarkably liberating and absolutely fine.
We also have sen kids, that is the hardest part, sending them into school every morning knowing that their potential and needs are not met in the current system.
I read about people that live in microhomes, or buy a caravan and homeschool their kids and I do think there are ways out if you are willung to drastically rip up your current way of living. I am not that brave.. yet.

DeftWasp · 21/01/2026 08:43

MsMcCoo · 21/01/2026 08:37

They do!!!! No way can see my washing machine living happy life for 20 years....
Imho it's too much technology in one thimg and lower quality parts.
The more technology stuffed into one thing, the more likely it is to break

Very true, my 1986 AEG tumble drier is still going strong - not the case with modern tat.