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To think we should put a stop to terms like 'toxic', 'narcissistic', 'gaslighting'...

112 replies

justalittlethought · 20/01/2026 22:12

..'safe space', 'boundaries'.

These words were not widely used before 2014/15 (in the way we use them so liberally now), peaking - I'm guessing - around 2020/2022?

Guess what - basically mirroring the Tik Tok, Social Media / Influencer boom.

I'm thoroughly fed up with people using these terms.

Also, people using sociopath and psychopath willy-nilly. These used to be terms used by psychologists/psychiatrists about individual who had some level of formal diagnosis using the DSM-IV.

OP posts:
itsthetea · 21/01/2026 17:47

StrawberrySquash · 21/01/2026 17:45

I can't help but laugh at the number of people who seem to think OP means a literal ban, rather than just using them when actually appropriate. Kind of makes her point for her. People are way to eager to over interpret and over use terms that are actually useful to describe genuine phenomena.

If OP wants others to use words precisely and accurately- yet managed to miscommunicate her message perhaps there is a broader problem

StrawberrySquash · 21/01/2026 17:45

I can't help but laugh at the number of people who seem to think OP means a literal ban, rather than just using them when actually appropriate. Kind of makes her point for her. People are way to eager to over interpret and over use terms that are actually useful to describe genuine phenomena.

HRTQueen · 21/01/2026 17:39

justalittlethought · 21/01/2026 12:56

@Shakeoffyourchains @YourTruthorMine

Ha ha - if you met me you would find that I'm not - and I don't like to use the word - 'toxic' or a 'narcissist'.

I would much rather we use less labels and focus on the behaviour i.e.:

'my husband was cruel, selfish and abused me' (rather than he was a narcissist/sociopath)
'my husband was cruel, lied to me and manipulative and made me feel that I had lost my mind' (rather than 'gas lighting').

Using clinical terms for everyday behaviour is problematic when these terms came from clinical psychology where they describe specific, rare and severe patterns of personality functioning. It dilutes the meaning.

A bit like people saying 'I'm depressed' when they are having a bad period with some low moods. This absolutely diminishes the word for those who are clinically depressed and truly suffering (and before anyone jumps at me, yes, of course people are abused and of course they have suffered).

It just becomes very weak as a descriptor (even if the word itself becomes emotionally powerful). It flattens human behaviour because, actually, people can absolutely behave narcissistically without being a narcissist and manipulate without having a fixed personality.

Btw, gas lighting does have an origin in the famous film but DID NOT become common parlance until the mid 2010s.

I find that with labelling we are becoming so rigid and it's all 'black-and-white' thinking which is not helpful and is partly, I think, the reason so many people have issues with critically evaluating circumstances, changing their mind or living as I say 'in the grey zone' rather than being highly polarised on subjects.

If someone is saying they are depressed who are you to make a judgement that they are not

it does not stop people being treated for depression and it has encouraged more people to seek support as the notion that being depressed means you can not get out of bed and function or have to tick a number of sections on a diagnoses scale to be depressed

the same with narcissistic, it has not stopped professionals diagnosing (very few people are) but it has allowed people to name traits that a partner/parent etc may have that is damaging to others and have a better understanding

this so called hijacking words has not changed how people are diagnosed but it has allowed people to understand complex and often damaging situations that they are in or have been in

ARunByFruiting · 21/01/2026 16:51

Centipedeswellies · 21/01/2026 08:02

They diagnosed you as being normal?

Social Phobia

justalittlethought · 21/01/2026 12:56

@Shakeoffyourchains @YourTruthorMine

Ha ha - if you met me you would find that I'm not - and I don't like to use the word - 'toxic' or a 'narcissist'.

I would much rather we use less labels and focus on the behaviour i.e.:

'my husband was cruel, selfish and abused me' (rather than he was a narcissist/sociopath)
'my husband was cruel, lied to me and manipulative and made me feel that I had lost my mind' (rather than 'gas lighting').

Using clinical terms for everyday behaviour is problematic when these terms came from clinical psychology where they describe specific, rare and severe patterns of personality functioning. It dilutes the meaning.

A bit like people saying 'I'm depressed' when they are having a bad period with some low moods. This absolutely diminishes the word for those who are clinically depressed and truly suffering (and before anyone jumps at me, yes, of course people are abused and of course they have suffered).

It just becomes very weak as a descriptor (even if the word itself becomes emotionally powerful). It flattens human behaviour because, actually, people can absolutely behave narcissistically without being a narcissist and manipulate without having a fixed personality.

Btw, gas lighting does have an origin in the famous film but DID NOT become common parlance until the mid 2010s.

I find that with labelling we are becoming so rigid and it's all 'black-and-white' thinking which is not helpful and is partly, I think, the reason so many people have issues with critically evaluating circumstances, changing their mind or living as I say 'in the grey zone' rather than being highly polarised on subjects.

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Wapentake · 21/01/2026 10:54

ForeverPombear · 21/01/2026 10:31

I think that these examples are completely different to medical conditions (which a narcissist is). It's not helpful when we're diagnosing people with things that they don't have.

But unless you’re a psychiatric professional, your armchair diagnosis of someone you don’t like as a ‘narcissist’ means precisely nothing anyway.

It’s not devaluing actual medical diagnoses any more than people saying they have the flu when they just have a bad cold is.

ehb102 · 21/01/2026 10:49

The more people know about the DSM and it's arbitory designations and classifications, the more they realise what it actually is.

BoredZelda · 21/01/2026 10:34

Correlation is not causation. It has nothing to do with TikTok or influencers and everything to do with issues which affect (largely) women, are more talked about.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 21/01/2026 10:32

Giving people language to help them understand their life experiences is so important to healing and processing traumatic experiences. I would still be a shell of myself after my previous relationship if I hadn’t got to know the words narcissist and gaslighting and read the book ‘it’s not you’ by dr ramani

ForeverPombear · 21/01/2026 10:31

Womaninhouse17 · 21/01/2026 10:29

... and new words or usages come along to fill the gap. 'Terrible', 'awful', 'wonderful', 'fantastic'... They all had much stronger meanings at one time (inspiring terror, awe etc). Are you saying that the evolving of language is not a good thing?

I think that these examples are completely different to medical conditions (which a narcissist is). It's not helpful when we're diagnosing people with things that they don't have.

ErrolTheDragon · 21/01/2026 10:31

While there is certainly misuse and overuse of some of the terms the OP objects to, much of the increase is due to people recognising certain behaviours and naming them appropriately.
I’d love to live in world where there was no legitimate use for these words but until then, YABU.

Womaninhouse17 · 21/01/2026 10:29

YYYDlilah · 21/01/2026 10:24

It doesn't mean it's a good thing. The words lose their potency.

... and new words or usages come along to fill the gap. 'Terrible', 'awful', 'wonderful', 'fantastic'... They all had much stronger meanings at one time (inspiring terror, awe etc). Are you saying that the evolving of language is not a good thing?

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 21/01/2026 10:26

YYYDlilah · 21/01/2026 10:24

It doesn't mean it's a good thing. The words lose their potency.

And they obscure and mislead.

YYYDlilah · 21/01/2026 10:24

Womaninhouse17 · 21/01/2026 10:01

That's just how languages evolve and have always evolved. Trying to stop it is like trying to stop the earth rotating.

It doesn't mean it's a good thing. The words lose their potency.

Womaninhouse17 · 21/01/2026 10:01

That's just how languages evolve and have always evolved. Trying to stop it is like trying to stop the earth rotating.

sunsetss · 21/01/2026 10:00

Up to 6% of people are though to suffer from NPD - that is potentially 1 in 20 people. I think actually they're quite hard to spot and often quite popular, unless you've spent 10 years with one and then you realise the patterns. It's the same with ASD IMO, spend 10 years with an autistic child and you can often spot when other kids are probably autistic.

Rosebud987 · 21/01/2026 09:34

As a family solicitor I couldn’t agree more. Almost every single client who I see in their first appointment ensures they tell me their ex is a narcissist and I think it takes away from those who really really are!

ForeverPombear · 21/01/2026 09:31

Narcissist is definitely overused.

I remember watching a documentary on them and apparently very very few people are true narcissists. Apparently people can show some narcissistic traits but aren't narcissists - I think that's what's really being confused.

Nevermind17 · 21/01/2026 09:30

justalittlethought · 20/01/2026 22:12

..'safe space', 'boundaries'.

These words were not widely used before 2014/15 (in the way we use them so liberally now), peaking - I'm guessing - around 2020/2022?

Guess what - basically mirroring the Tik Tok, Social Media / Influencer boom.

I'm thoroughly fed up with people using these terms.

Also, people using sociopath and psychopath willy-nilly. These used to be terms used by psychologists/psychiatrists about individual who had some level of formal diagnosis using the DSM-IV.

YABU. My first husband was 100% a narcissist. If I’d understood narcissism and gaslighting back in my 20s maybe I wouldn’t have wasted 10 years with the prick. As it was, he conditioned me to believe that I was imagining it all.

The problem is people using these terms wrongly. A narcissist has come to mean ‘a bit of an arsehole’. I’ve seen people on here describing any white lie as gaslighting, or even someone having a difference of opinion.

It’s important that we know how to recognise a genuine narcissist, and real gaslighting.

Bringemout · 21/01/2026 09:25

I think they should be used appropriately.

DontGoJasonWaterfalls · 21/01/2026 09:19

I don't want to have to say "my father, who is diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder" every time I'm referring to him just to please a few people who protest a little too much that it's all a "trend". I'll continue calling him a narcissist, cheers.

I don't care if the words are overused. I spent over 18 lonely years feeling like I was alone and like surely it was my fault because no one else I knew had parents who behaved like mine. If more people feel able to throw the word around, maybe children will be able to speak up sooner about the behaviour happening at home. Maybe that's why some people are so keen to ban the words.

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 21/01/2026 09:17

They have a useful side, OP.

Use of these terms is a great way to tell that the user is a jargon-loving fool.

Avantiagain · 21/01/2026 09:17

"If you think that anyone who calls someone a narcissist is a narcissist then you are effectively calling them a narcissist, which in turn would make you a narcissist."

No not anyone. Those on social media who accuse multiple people they know of being those things, often while they themselves are an empath.

Snoken · 21/01/2026 09:12

Avantiagain · 21/01/2026 08:59

"If that's the case that would make you one of those who accuse others of being the first three too. Ie, one of the guilty ones."

I don't accuse people of it on social media.

Does it matter if you accuse them in your head or on SM? If you think that anyone who calls someone a narcissist is a narcissist then you are effectively calling them a narcissist, which in turn would make you a narcissist.

Wow, that's a lot of narcissists in one sentence.

Timeforchai · 21/01/2026 09:07

I think, although overused, these words are used to describe abusive relationships.
If they help just one person to identify they are being manipulated, exploited or abused in any manner, then they should stay.
Unfortunately it is still the case that many women do not recognise abuse unless it is physical. These words are helping to raise awareness that this is not the case.

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