to wish this was a woman only forum?

Yes! I asked about my perception of the unfair division of labour in our house, I was very distressed at the time of posting. I listed all the things I do and what my husband does( he does the tea dishes, but not every night)the poster said, so your husband comes home after work and does all the washing?

Totally disingenuous, trying to wind me up when I was already really sad and exhausted.

Personally i think it should only be mums on this website, its called mumsnet

I agree with this.

And since the vast majority of MNetters are women, then I imagine the vast majority of trolls are too.

Especially the ones who know how to press MNetter's buttons and get them frothing by posting the words "Man here".

There is one that hasn’t been mentioned yet on this thread who I’ve seen praised before a few times. But years ago they were on a thread that was deleted where they showed their true colours. Pervy and misogynistic, I always wondered if he had forgotten to name change as it was very not in keeping with his other posts. I have screen shots somewhere on an old phone as I was so shocked. He’s still here, still gets praise. I’m awaiting his name to come up as a good egg. He’s definitely not!

Yeah, I know we have to accept it if we want to be here. Again though, I'm still allowed to dislike it. There are more men (well men that admit they are) here than there used to be, and I just wish they'd piss off, in all honesty.

It’s impossible to get a female only
space online unless it’s private & either invite only or at least extremely well gatekept, so there would be no point in it for MN. There will always be men who want in, the most annoying ones claiming it’s their right because they’re women too.

I don’t go on Relationships much so the only bloke I really interact with on MN is Grumpyoldpersonwithcats in the Litter Tray, who’s a good sort.

It’s more than a few and they’re very persistent. Mumsnet actually refused to have a sex board for years because they said it would attract ‘a shed load of trolls’. I’ve been on mumsnet for 20 years, there has been a lot of bad men in that time and even more that I’ve suspected.

There is a poster who claims to be a woman who constantly posts about knickers, breasts, mowing ‘her’ lawn topless. ‘She’ is all over any post to do with sex, breasts, underwear. It’s a bloke, lots of people know it is.

Its off putting,

It might be called mumsnet but plenty of people aren't mums. Why shouldn't anyone comment on parenting? An experienced dad can probably advise better than a woman who has never had kids (even women who are nursery nurses admit they didn't understand certain things until they actually had kids).If you specifically want advice from someone who has had a forceps delivery for example, obviously a man won't know, but then neither would many women (and while most gynaecologists are probably too busy to be posting on here, if there was one who happened to be male, he could probably give better advice than most women).
Being male or female doesn't qualify you to give better advice, although you might be able to give a view from personal experience. But just being born with a uterus doesn't necessarily mean you'll give better advice/more related to me than anyone who isn't, just as a female gym instructor won't necessarily know how to train me better than a man would.

The fact the people are posting the few usernames of the decent male posters on here says it all

I don't spend that much time thinking about male masturbatory habits. If you are thinking about men thinking about sex when posting about toilet habits that is frankly bizarre, even if there are a few weirdos who are into that.

There is a regular period male troll on here too. One obsessed with teen underwear. Another one who talks about his teen SD stealing her mums vibrator. Sick bastards.

Lots of women have said they don’t feel comfortable to post anything about periods, underwear, toileting, breastfeeding, womens health issues. We even had a perv PMing a woman who posted about thrush. Mumsnet did ban him though.

What I don't like is the fact that there are lots of men and bad faith actors on here and yet the forum broadly speaking is considered to be "mums only".
"Mums want to vote Reform", etc.

There are also some decent men and childfree people on here and that's good too.

What I would like is to be able to remove agitators, people who aren't who they say they are and people who are just here to stir things. These people could be male or female.

Given that a huge chunk of the posts and and questions on here are about relationships with men, I think it would be pretty short-sighted to exclude male points of view. I quite often see people (who appear to be other women) replying to posts about relationships very confidently saying things like 'If man does X it means Y' or 'Men just don't think like that' or 'Men only do this if they're having an affair'. And often, it's just nonsense, and helps nobody, including the OP who is being given skewed replies that aren't going to solve her problem or give her balanced feedback.

In a lot of cases, I think it can be quite useful to the OP to have a man saying 'Well, just talking from a bloke's perspective, I'd say that it's totally possible that if a man does X it means Z, not Y' or 'Nah, I do that all the time and I'm not having an affair, so don't assume that's definitely what's going on' or 'I'm a man, OP, and actually I'm with you on this one - this isn't just boys will be boys, he's behaving like a twat' or 'I've been on a few stag weekends and honestly, they haven't been about lapdancing clubs and strippers at all - yeah, the boozing is off the scale and obviously some blokes are into strippers but it's really not universal at all'.

There is also no reason whatsoever why a man wouldn't be able to discuss parenting. Men are parents! There's non-stop complaining about women having to do all the parenting on here, so maybe start accepting that if we want men to parent, we need to bloody accept that their input is equal to ours on the matter?

Obviously, nobody wants some horrid little incel cunt popping up with their misogynistic bullshit and clearly nobody wants a man's advice on women's health or whatever. A man isn't going to be able to give me any useful advice on whether to take HRT or how to make a smear test more comfortable, and those men can absolutely fuck off. But I think it's counter-productive and shortsighted to think that a male perspective on relationships etc can't be useful. There are times on here when I think a man's perspective is exactly what's needed - just like a lot of men's relationship issues would be really bloody benefit from a woman chipping in to say 'You're making a whole lot of assumptions about women here and as a woman, I can promise that what your wife is doing probably doesn't mean what all these men are telling you it means'.

I absolutely agree op!

I always wonder what's going on for men who see a female space and want to butt in. It feels really entitled.

The "as a man" comments, as if this gives them some sort of expert status, give me the rage!

It’s the “hairy hands” brigade that annoy me … there is nothing that exists that a man won’t want over - any post on toilet habits, Childrens toileting, posts about “experiences” .. breastfeeding in particular, underwear etc etc you can picture some man behind it having a Tommy Tank.

For me it’s not about gender, it’s about not attacking. And whilst women are more guilty of this, I’ll accept men on here. When women come to the table with balanced views and support, I will change my mind.

We have the same comment every few weeks or so. The fact remains that this place isn't woman only and never has been, so I don't why people complaining about it.

Not sure - Judging by my female lawyer friends I would say that is lawyer style.

But it is a style.

Either way prh47bridge is invaluable in MN

(I once had a series of PMs with him, years ago when we rumbled and reported a persistent troll, so know his first name. He has never changed user names - i have!)

Yes, because every other MNer is going to PM them and drop their knickers.
FFS love get a grip.

Ah, I get you. I don't find the sex board super helpful anyway, if it isn't perves it's people with no clue.

You can't I don't think. It's a hypothetical moan!

How can you restrict people from an online forum?

Not all of us want somewhere 'without men'. (Except changing rooms and loos and prisons! I'm not a TRA) I find a male perspective useful sometimes, and also women don't all think alike anyway.

I agree. I don't want men's advice generally and especially on relationships. The men on the sex board are just awful. If I wanted advice or the viewpoint of men, I'd ask for it, but I don't. I get it often enough in real life.

If MNHQ can't ban men, maybe just restrict them to certain boards. But certainly keep them off relationships, AIBU and chat. (You don't see many men on the Style board).