Will my life be better if I move to USA?

The race based entity america, the most racist entity in human history, where only whites are american per its founding naturalisation law, where Natives were deemed subhuman savages according to its racist 'declaration' before they were ethnically cleansed (an act admired by Hitler), and the Africans (who provided wealth for the elite white slave owning tyrants who founded this racist entity) were deemed 3/5ths of a person according to its racist constitution.

This image sums up the race based entity america and its white privilege DNA.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/05/facebook-declaration-of-independence-hate-speech

Ivy league

The US isn't meritocratic. Social mobility has been higher in the UK over the last few decades. They don't have Oxbridge, or the same sense of class as the UK. But they absolutely do have class, (and significantly more racism too, so if you're not white that's probably a bigger problem).

Almost no law makers at the federal level are working class. (The Democrats are probably worse than the Republicans on this front too). The US have political dynasties that span multiple generations in a way that really ought to be shocking in a country that went to war in part to reject hereditary rule.

Getting into the top colleges is hard for working class children. Good state funded high schools are generally at least as segregated as they are in the UK, with many places relying on parents and local communities to fund significant amounts of state school budgets. This results in rich communities having better facilities and curriculum than poorer communities as well as the advantages that often come with a more middle class community, and working class kids being concentrated in schools with fewer facilities and more hard to serve children. There is a huge amount of nepotism in the working world and who you know, college alum networks and the right names on your CV are huge advantages in getting ahead.

Even with the new tech frontier, that has allowed lots of people to gain far better incomes than their parents - still almost none of the CEOs and CTO or CFOs come from a less than middle class background. Often an upper middle class one.

There is a lot of opportunity, but there are also a lot of people vying for that opportunity. The potential to get rich is higher, but it's a huge gamble for working class people with luck a significant part of making it. There's a greater gap between rich and poor in the US and the chances of falling into crippling poverty is higher.

It's a good place for UK middle class people to try and make it big. Less so for working class. But if you have dual citizenship, you have little to lose trying as you can always return to to the UK.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Americans#Racism_and_social_status

"Formal political, economic and social discrimination against minorities has been present throughout American history. Leland T. Saito, Associate Professor of Sociology and American Studies & Ethnicity at the University of Southern California, writes, "Political rights have been circumscribed by race, class and gender since the founding of the United States, when the right to vote was restricted to White men of property. Throughout the history of the United States, race has been used by Whites for legitimizing and creating difference and social, economic and political exclusion".

In 1770s Britain, men of property could vote (this included black people), in 1770s america, only white men of property could vote. It would take almost another century before blacks could do the same in america as Britain (although it would take yet another century before they gained full rights).

abraham lincoln in 1858,

"I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; I am as much as any other man in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race."

america, a race based entity founded by a group of elite, white slave owning tyrants, for america to stop being racist it would need to stop being america.

The US has a class system, it is just based upon different things than the UK system. It is possible to change classes in the U.S., but that doesn’t make class any less important or dominant.

my child was born into the upper middle class. Like many similar families, our entire goal as parents is to make sure she has what she needs to stay here or rise higher. It influences every aspect of our parenting from birth.

don’t be naive and think you will escape the issue of class in the US. Class determines the quality of your child’s school. Class determines the maintenance level of your neighborhood. Class determines your access to good, healthy grocery stores. Class determines your access to health care. Your socioeconomic status is everything here.

america, the most racist country in human history, the global leader in race law (white only citizenship, white only vote, white only schools to white only graveyards, white only education etc. etc.), a race based entity founded by a group of white elite, slave owning, racist tyrants, the country that ethnically cleansed the indigenous population from their fertile land and forced the tiny number who survived into reservations, the country that imported enslaved Africans to provide wealth for the white elite (washington, jefferson et al), the country that coined the term '''white privilege''' given now rampant it is there, since when was it meritocratic?

That's a comment from a whitewashing ignoramus.

I detest america with every fibre of my being. Even the national anthem (the lyrics not the tune which is British) is racist with it's no longer sung third verse excoriating the slaves who fled the plantations of the white elites (18 from washington's alone)

Some history (and not a version of Trump's "patriotic education" (whitewashed) that you have espoused) and up to date data from the London School of Economics:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_the_United_States#Economics

"The end of slavery has seen marginal change in the racial wealth gap. In 1863, two years prior to emancipation, black people owned 0.5 percent of the national wealth, while in 2019 it is just over 1.5 percent.

Those who economically gained the most from slavery were the planter class, owners of large-scale agricultural estates, plantations, where large numbers of enslaved Africans were held captive and forced to produce crops to create wealth for a white elite. Having a prominent role in politics with eight of the 15 presidents prior to Lincoln owning slaves while in office, upon the end of the Civil War the planter class kept control of their land and remained politically influential, with the London School of Economics stating, "this persistence in "de facto power" in turn allowed them to block economic reforms, disenfranchise black voters, and restrict the mobility of workers."

www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/06/19/why-racial-wealth-gap-persists-more-than-years-after-emancipation/

Watch palm beach: members only on netflix. That'll cure you.

It is a race based entity that has been dominated by whites since it was stolen from the Native people who were massacred.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Anglo-Saxon_Protestants

In the United States, White Anglo-Saxon Protestants or Wealthy Anglo-Saxon Protestants (WASP) is a sociological term which is often used to describe white/wealthy Protestant Americans of English, or more broadly British, descent who are generally part of the white dominant culture, and who belong to Protestant denominations. Some sociologists and commentators use WASP more broadly to include all White Protestant Americans of Northwestern European and Northern European ancestry.[2][3][4] It was seen to be in exclusionary contrast to Catholics, Jews, Irish, immigrants, southern or eastern Europeans, and the non-White. WASPs have dominated American society, culture, and politics for most of the history of the United States. Critics have disparaged them as "The Establishment".

America is a country of idiots so you would fit right in.

How stupid do you have to be to 1) want to live in the US and 2) to think they don't have a class system.

You sound young, bitter and a bit naive just go and see how it works out for you. It could be a great learning experience if nothing else.

Gosh. You need to reconcile your obsession with a university

I guess if you want somewhere less wealth and privilege focused, somewhere in Scandinavia might be better, or perhaps even Ireland. But truth be told it’s a bit of a weird thing for the average person to fixate on.

Johnson and Cameron fair enough. But Blair, Starmer, Braverman, Davey - none of them had particularly privileged upbringings.

Seems their parents were all born pretty normal people who did quite well for themselves and then yes invested a bit in their kids education. If you think that’s not the case in the US and that US politicians “come from the streets” you’re in for a shock.

In fact Starmer in particular had a bang average upbringing, the first of his family to go to university, and only went to a good school through his own academic merit. The contrast with Trump could hardly be more stark.

To be fair op's description of the UK won't chime with many people's either.

So you want to move because some people have more than you and because of that they get access to better things?

Where do u think this exists? You'd move because students at Oxford dress up?
Come off it.

Places that claim to be meritocratic typically have hidden value systems that are nothing to do with merit: https://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-031-65498-5_4

What you're actually looking for is a culture with low power distance--ironically the US is a HIGHER power distance culture than the UK, meaning that elites expect more deference.... https://clearlycultural.com/geert-hofstede-cultural-dimensions/power-distance-index/

No, America has no elite universities which are attended by privileged, wealthy people. It does not have a system whereby the wealthy elites find their way into positions of power or privilege within government.

They’re highly welcoming to immigrants, especially at the moment. They’ve created an all powerful gestapo community of government agents called ICE, to ensure that immigrants feel welcome and safe.

It sounds like a magical wonderland. I’m sure you’ll love it. Off you pop

Go if you want to go …. However I think you’re living in the wrong U.K. location. Look for alternative places like Totness, Stroud Bristol

I was wondering how many old Etonians and Harrovians you meet in a typical day.

That's a nuisance. There aren't many routes where Amtrak is good for a day trip. I'm too old to overnight in seated accommodation, I need a sleeper! Driving and flying are travel modes I treat as last resorts.

Anyway, 2026's travel budget has been blown already.

meanwhile, back in the real world……

PS @Yatre, it was in the last century that the House of Lords was largely abolished as an hereditary mechanism.

So you don't need to worry about that any more.

Seriously — that sounds like someone's expecting to live on the set of Gossip Girl!

I live near DC and educational snobbery is real, but the rest of it, no. And even then there are plenty of people who didn't go to elite universities and have done well.

Well on MN they'll always say the USA is a hellhole...

Salaries are better by the way, but costs are really out of control. That said, now is not the time. The demented Cheeto in the White House is destroying our economy and our politics. And moving to another country never fixes you. You need to be moving to something, not running away from it.