Will my life be better if I move to USA?

Thats a lot of hate. For things that most people don’t give a minutes thought too.

OP sounds like a child. Probably one who failed their Oxbridge interview in the recent past.

I’m in Scotland and just don’t recognise these stereotypes as part of my daily life. But we have other issues so please don’t come here with your hyperbolic, disproportionate prejudices and add to them.

Have you ever met any Etonians OP?
Because I had to spend a week there and those kids were truly the politest and humblest kids I've ever met.
The loud, gregarious Northern lads I was shepherding had tons more confidence and sass, but actually everyone got on really well.

Go to the US.

I wondered the same thing.

OP the reality is that Oxbridge graduates are clever. Oxford and Cambridge get the pick of students with straight A star profiles. As such a very high number of their graduates will go on to get well paid jobs. Not because they went to Oxbridge, but because they are naturally clever and so they do well in application processes.

They get in to Oxbridge because they are confident enough to apply, because they put a lot of work into applying and writing the essays/sitting relevant exams and because they prepare very thoroughly for the interviews and know their subject inside out.

Naturally clever students from other universities will also do disproportionately well in application processes even though many applications are now school and university blind. It’s harder if you are not naturally clever but have to work to get good grades. The AI selection processes nowadays don’t favour those types.

Gone (largely) are the days in the UK when it was about who you know. I am a senior corporate lawyer, DH is a very senior corporate lawyer and holds a very prestigious judicial role. We earn a lot of money and know a lot of people in the profession. We cannot get DD a training contract. She has to go through the process like everyone else since the first four stages are AI generated (very detailed application form which generally takes 3/4 hours minimum to draft - logic/reasoning timed test - situational judgment test- AI interview. All that has to happen before you get to an assessment day and then you have to do more tests and then have an in person interview to get a place on the vacation scheme. You then have to be a top performer on the vacation scheme and go well in the next interview to be offered a training contract. Then you have to pass two very difficult exams with only a 40% pass rate. If you can’t do complex logic tests you are basically never getting past stage 2.

Nobody is giving you a job just because you went to Oxford anymore.

In the US however it’s far more about who you know. We have colleagues over there who tell a very different story.

There is a reason btw that many well known actors went to private school and Oxbridge. It’s because to be an actor you need to be able to support yourself because chances are you are not going to make a decent income from it for quite some time. You will also have periods with no jobs. So 30 years ago it was a profession which you only really had the luxury of opting for if you had money behind you. Slightly changing now with the internet.

Off you pop, then, OP 👋

And some very small parts of England too, to be fair. There lots of areas that are toff free!

I suspect OP (if genuine) has an obsession so deliberately seeks out info and news on these people. Making her own echo chamber worse. Maybe step away from the algorithm and just enjoy your life?

Do you think Trump made me his money on merit? Nothing to do with his wealthy family?
The US is the most unequal society in the world, it hasn't the aristocracy but that's because it's a young country. It still has the elite so you might be disappointed. Having said all that I think you should give it a go. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

You're talking about someone who actually said to Norway that he should be given Greenland because they didn't give him the Nobel Peace Prize. What's your definition of entitled? I'd say that's off the scale entitlement.

Yeah, but he didn’t go to Oxbridge, so it’s okay, he is excused 🤣. Fucking hell.

OP, I think you have PDS.......Posh Derangement Syndrome. Why are you so obsessed with it?

Is this a joke?

Cheerio old chap

Off you go then byeeee

Cecil Rhodes was a monster. He'll be one of Elon Musk's great heroes.

What a peculiar thing to get your knickers in such a twist about!!

If you value people by their wealth the USA will suit you perfectly.

Off you go then, dont wait about- just go.

BYE!

Also wasn't Cecil Rhodes involved in the slave trade ? In which case it's payback for his past crimes to pay bursaries for African students. (I maybe wrong, if so apologies. I just remember there was a school near where I lived called Rhodes Primary which the LA was considering renaming following the murder of George Floyd and BLM protests that followed.)

I love the idea that Trump’s wealth doesn’t make him ‘entitled or snobbish’. The man who is currently trying to annexe great swathes of the world because he wants to take control of its resources, and thinks his wealth means he can ‘grab women by the pussy’ because he’s rich, All perfectly normal, folks. Definitely not entitled.

OP, you know an awful lot about Oxford for someone so offended by the place. The vast majority of people in this country have never heard of the Oxford Union. Are you the poster obsessed with getting into Oxford University, to the extent she turned down a fully-funded access course at Cambridge? And you’ve just had another rejection, as it’s that time of year? It’s the only explanation I can see for this level of interest in a place while holding it in such disdain at the same time.

I wonder if this is the same poster who didn't get into Oxford and kept posting thread after thread about it?

My brother is Oxford educated and earns £££££. Our dad was a semi literate builder.

You sound unhinged! Id rather eat my own toenails than live in the US.

"Oxbridge people" - that homogeneous group of 50,000 people per year that are all exactly as you describe 🙄 rather than emigrating it might be easier to do some introspection on why you're so triggered by where some actors went to uni??

Social mobility in the US is very low. Look at the statistics. They TALK about it a lot, the "American dream" is the foundation of their myth that anyone can pull themselves up by their bootstraps, but the numbers tell a different story. You sound very naive and misinformed.

I also hold US citizenship, OP, and have just returned from a visit. I agree the class system there is equally entrenched.

Do you line the idea of heavily armed, helmeted troops (National Guards, I think) patrolling the nation’s capital, a strongly visible presence at all the major symbols of Western democracy? I found it rather jarring.

BTW, Keir Starmer’s undergraduate degree is from Leeds.

Come off social media and you'll feel better. There's plenty of elitism in the US if you decide to go .
Trump inherited his wealth, by the way.

Why shouldn’t Cecil Rhode’s estate money go to students from Africa?

Yeah because the US seems like a really calm, fair and tolerant society right now! 🤣👏