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Will my life be better if I move to USA?

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Yatre · 19/01/2026 22:51

I truly hate the UK class system.

I hate the whole private school vs grammar school vs state school elitism.

I hate the Oxbridge elitism and how Oxbridge-educated people dominate public life and the arrogance many of them have.

I hate the posh Etonians and Harrovians.

I hate the elitism of the Royal Family, the British aristocracy, all those titles and landed estates, the House of Lords etc.

Just the existence of certain British politicans (regardless of their politics - because this isn’t necessarily about their political beliefs) really irks me. Think David Cameron or Boris Johnson. Both upper-class, privately-educated, Oxford/Bullingdon Club, which have given them a great sense of arrogance about their position in life.

I hate the Oxford Union and the way they all dress up in posh attire, acting all special, and thinking their oratory skills will materialise into anything of worth.

This arrogance has been talked about before with many Brits believing that these Oxbridge, privately-educated, middle and upper-class people have the arrogance to think they have the right to run the country.

They’re present everywhere. Edward Davey, Keir Starmer, Suella Braverman, Tony Blair etc. it’s not just a right-wing thing. In fat, you could argue, these days, it’s more so left-wing.

Even successful British actors like Emma Thompson, Tom Hiddleston, Eddie Redmayne etc exhibit these attributes. They

I just don’t want to have to live in the same country as these types of people or listen to their antics.

Luckily, I’m a dual UK-US citizen since I was born in the US while my parents were living there for a while, but I have never been there since my parents returned and I don’t know anyone there.

I really want to move to the US.

If you know what it’s like to live in the USA, can you just tell me whether if I moved to the USA, I wouldn’t have to come across any of those posh, aristocratic, upper/middle-class, privately-educated, titled, Oxbridge graduate snobs that I mentioned.

I would live in a much more meritocratic country where nobody would tolerate Oxford Union debaters thinking their opinion matters or privately-educated people thinking they have a right to run the country.

At least Trump’s wealth or that of the Kardashian’s isn’t offensive to me because it just feels different - it doesn’t feel as layered and it doesn’t make them act as entitled or snobbish.

So, if I move to USA will I be free from these types of people or will I still see some of them/hear from them? I’m not sure if America is dominated by middle-class or posh, Oxbridge graduates or aristocrats.

Sorry for the rant. Just felt overwhelmed.

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yorkshiretoffee · 20/01/2026 18:34

A meritocracy that has elected Trump to the top job in the land. If that's on merit, what must the rest of them be like?

Sometimessmiling · 20/01/2026 18:21

Yatre · 19/01/2026 22:51

I truly hate the UK class system.

I hate the whole private school vs grammar school vs state school elitism.

I hate the Oxbridge elitism and how Oxbridge-educated people dominate public life and the arrogance many of them have.

I hate the posh Etonians and Harrovians.

I hate the elitism of the Royal Family, the British aristocracy, all those titles and landed estates, the House of Lords etc.

Just the existence of certain British politicans (regardless of their politics - because this isn’t necessarily about their political beliefs) really irks me. Think David Cameron or Boris Johnson. Both upper-class, privately-educated, Oxford/Bullingdon Club, which have given them a great sense of arrogance about their position in life.

I hate the Oxford Union and the way they all dress up in posh attire, acting all special, and thinking their oratory skills will materialise into anything of worth.

This arrogance has been talked about before with many Brits believing that these Oxbridge, privately-educated, middle and upper-class people have the arrogance to think they have the right to run the country.

They’re present everywhere. Edward Davey, Keir Starmer, Suella Braverman, Tony Blair etc. it’s not just a right-wing thing. In fat, you could argue, these days, it’s more so left-wing.

Even successful British actors like Emma Thompson, Tom Hiddleston, Eddie Redmayne etc exhibit these attributes. They

I just don’t want to have to live in the same country as these types of people or listen to their antics.

Luckily, I’m a dual UK-US citizen since I was born in the US while my parents were living there for a while, but I have never been there since my parents returned and I don’t know anyone there.

I really want to move to the US.

If you know what it’s like to live in the USA, can you just tell me whether if I moved to the USA, I wouldn’t have to come across any of those posh, aristocratic, upper/middle-class, privately-educated, titled, Oxbridge graduate snobs that I mentioned.

I would live in a much more meritocratic country where nobody would tolerate Oxford Union debaters thinking their opinion matters or privately-educated people thinking they have a right to run the country.

At least Trump’s wealth or that of the Kardashian’s isn’t offensive to me because it just feels different - it doesn’t feel as layered and it doesn’t make them act as entitled or snobbish.

So, if I move to USA will I be free from these types of people or will I still see some of them/hear from them? I’m not sure if America is dominated by middle-class or posh, Oxbridge graduates or aristocrats.

Sorry for the rant. Just felt overwhelmed.

My sons went to Oxford. From a normal family and state school. All their friends were similar. Yes lots of prats have gone. But your statements are not true

MissConductUS · 20/01/2026 18:13

if you’re poor you are treated as nothing and can’t even access health care.

So much ignorance and misinformation.

https://www.health.ny.gov/publications/0548/medicaid.htm

Every state has a Medicaid program.

MapleLeaf190 · 20/01/2026 18:08

If you like gun violence and Christianity - head to the USA!
But it’s just a different type of class system there - if you’re poor you are treated as nothing and can’t even access health care.
Plus…Trump…gross.
Give it a try and let us know how you like it.

EverestMilton · 20/01/2026 18:06

Yatre · 19/01/2026 23:23

Is America dominated by Oxbridge people too?

Where are all these Oxbridge people?? Are they all lined up outside your window in their rowing kit or something???

Butchyrestingface · 20/01/2026 17:57

Obsessivepenguin · 20/01/2026 17:40

Her username was Juliette96 I remember because my baby sister is called Juliette and was born in 96

I hope this isn't your baby sister! Wink

Christwosheds · 20/01/2026 17:56

I think you are deluded if you think wealth in the US doesn’t make people act in an entitled or snobbish way.
Your fixation with Oxbridge is quite weird. I have a daughter at Oxford. She went there from a rural comprehensive, not a selective or private school. One of my closest friends went to Cambridge, again from a rural comprehensive, ditto my DH. Highly academic students tend to go on to good universities, that’s hardly a surprise.

MissConductUS · 20/01/2026 17:46

Most of the Americans he works with are Ivy League and many of them expressly say they’ve moved to London to escape the elitism, narrowness and snobbery of their lives in the US.

If they have renounced their US citizenship, immigrated to the UK, and taken permanent positions there, I'd find this credible. If they were there on a one or two year assignment, I'd suspect that they were attempting to ingratiate themselves with their British colleagues by confirming their biases about American society.

My DH worked in London for a year before we met. He was on assignment from the big four (big six then) accounting firm he work for, in their management consulting division. He loved London, loved the Brits he worked with and met, but was happy to return to NY when the assignment was over.

OttersMayHaveShifted · 20/01/2026 17:46

Obsessivepenguin · 20/01/2026 16:47

You're definitely that girl fixated with getting in to Oxford aren't you.

Ooh - good call. I'm thinking OP didn't get in (Oxford offers came out on the 13th), has an extreme case of sour grapes and wants to try and ensure she never has to encounter people who did get in.

GRCP · 20/01/2026 17:42

“Trump’s wealth doesn’t make him act entitled or snobbish” 😂

Obsessivepenguin · 20/01/2026 17:40

Butchyrestingface · 20/01/2026 17:36

Does anyone have a linky to the previous thread?

I read it all the time, but my memory needs a refresh. Something about repeating A Levels, wasn't it?

Have tried to AS but nae luck.

Her username was Juliette96 I remember because my baby sister is called Juliette and was born in 96

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 20/01/2026 17:39

Obsessivepenguin · 20/01/2026 16:47

You're definitely that girl fixated with getting in to Oxford aren't you.

Ooooh you might be right

RampantIvy · 20/01/2026 17:39

Obsessivepenguin · 20/01/2026 16:47

You're definitely that girl fixated with getting in to Oxford aren't you.

Hmm. Now you mention it you might be right. The OP sounds a little odd.

Butchyrestingface · 20/01/2026 17:36

Obsessivepenguin · 20/01/2026 16:47

You're definitely that girl fixated with getting in to Oxford aren't you.

Does anyone have a linky to the previous thread?

I read it all the time, but my memory needs a refresh. Something about repeating A Levels, wasn't it?

Have tried to AS but nae luck.

YourBlueShark · 20/01/2026 17:20

WhereIsMyLight · 19/01/2026 23:06

There isn’t the class system as you have here, but the disparity is wealth is there and the privileges that wealth buys are still there. Many politicians will be Ivy League educated. Dynasties are much more of a thing so generations and generations of the same family that start a law career before having a political career.

I’d argue it’s harder to be on a lower income in the US because there is no universal health care. Cost of food is much higher.

Wealth and privilege exist in every country.

Agreed. I'm an American in the US and there is definitely huge wealth disparity. My husband works for a UK company and his colleagues who have moved here are struggling because they're still on the UK pay scale. Salaries seem larger in the US but your money doesn't go nearly as far. For example, $100k sounds like a nice living but it provides a lower middle class lifestyle, living paycheck to paycheck, in many areas. Politics aside (although that'd be a deterrent for me if I didn't already live here), I'd just recommend being extremely mindful about where you move, what your income will look like, and research cost of living (including taxes, healthcare, energy costs, groceries, whether there is public transit, transportation costs, etc) before moving.

Obsessivepenguin · 20/01/2026 16:47

Yatre · 20/01/2026 12:18

Most of those state school-educated students actually went to selective grammar schools and/or are from wealthy, middle-class families.

You're definitely that girl fixated with getting in to Oxford aren't you.

CautiousLurker2 · 20/01/2026 16:27

Yatre · 20/01/2026 12:18

Most of those state school-educated students actually went to selective grammar schools and/or are from wealthy, middle-class families.

My DH went to Cambridge. First person in his entire extended family to go to university from a local state school. All of his mates there were also mainly state school educated. And yes, if they didn’t put a gown on they didn’t get served supper in the evening where it really was like Harry Potter (but with liberal quantities of port if the Master was dinning).

They’ve all done incredibly well - C Suite of a FTSE100 company, partners in law and accountancy firms, MDs in tech companies. He works with people from all over the world - they’ve all attended some of the best universities in the US and Europe. Most of the Americans he works with are Ivy League and many of them expressly say they’ve moved to London to escape the elitism, narrowness and snobbery of their lives in the US. Personally I do wonder whether Torquay in the summer is really on a par with a staffed mansion in the Hamptons, but most of them are happy to swap the two.

I’m clearly older than you - you sound the same age as my university aged DCs - but I would tell you the same as I have told my kids. The world is in a blip. Every 45-50 years there is an economic and social cycle and everyone lives through ay least one. Some of us live through two (I am old enough to remember the bread shortages with hours long queues outside the bakers, the power cuts, the reading by candle light during the miners’ strikes in the 70’s even though I was still in junior school). Look at the great depression of the 1920’s, the unrest of the 70’s. This is cycle will move on and things will resettle. You can’t blame it on Oxford elites and if you truly think that other countries in the world aren’t living through the same level of economic and social uncertainty right now, you are being naive.

Legoandloldolls · 20/01/2026 16:19

If you know what it’s like to live in the USA, can you just tell me whether if I moved to the USA, I wouldn’t have to come across any of those posh, aristocratic, upper/middle-class, privately-educated, titled, Oxbridge graduate snobs that I mentioned.

Move to Chatham in Kent, and you will never meet a single one 🤣 seriously. Where do you live that is dominated by these throngs of well-educated snobs? You need not venture very far even from the capital to see people who leave school with no qualifications at all if that's what floats your boat ( there are grammar schools in Chatham, extremely good ones so you might be suprised at what the area demographic looks like in reality).

Lobbygobbler · 20/01/2026 16:08

The Oxford university decisions came out recently. I am thinking there may be a link with this thread.

SilverSurreal · 20/01/2026 15:56

Yatre · 19/01/2026 23:23

Is America dominated by Oxbridge people too?

You are mixing in the wrong circles then? Clearly.

There is NO ONE where I live that is like your description.
Remember though, if everywhere you go are arseholes, what is the one constant?

KoiTetra · 20/01/2026 15:56

I really don't understand the level of hatred for something that I very much doubt you come across all that much in day to day life.

If your complaint is that it is a certain group running politics... look at the US dynasties, the Kennedys have been at the top of politics for years, Clintons, Bush's. Would you really rather have Trump in charge than most UK politicians just because he didn't go to Oxbridge?

oustedbymymate · 20/01/2026 15:50

No

VickyEadieofThigh · 20/01/2026 15:49

ImmortalJillyCooper · 19/01/2026 23:04

Who are you that you are hanging out with all these toffs that they dominate your life so much. Of course Britain has these privileged types. Like every other country. Doesn’t really affect me though.

Same here. The stuff the OP mentions doesn't affect my life and doesn't even occur to me.

ferrisbeullersjacket · 20/01/2026 15:48

Keir Starmer went to Leeds OP.

Stompythedinosaur · 20/01/2026 15:43

If you think the USA is more meritocratic, I think you're delusional. Wealth and power there is based on inherited privilege as much as anywhere else!

Doesn't the gun crime and lack of respect for woman's rights worry you? It would me!