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Will my life be better if I move to USA?

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Yatre · 19/01/2026 22:51

I truly hate the UK class system.

I hate the whole private school vs grammar school vs state school elitism.

I hate the Oxbridge elitism and how Oxbridge-educated people dominate public life and the arrogance many of them have.

I hate the posh Etonians and Harrovians.

I hate the elitism of the Royal Family, the British aristocracy, all those titles and landed estates, the House of Lords etc.

Just the existence of certain British politicans (regardless of their politics - because this isn’t necessarily about their political beliefs) really irks me. Think David Cameron or Boris Johnson. Both upper-class, privately-educated, Oxford/Bullingdon Club, which have given them a great sense of arrogance about their position in life.

I hate the Oxford Union and the way they all dress up in posh attire, acting all special, and thinking their oratory skills will materialise into anything of worth.

This arrogance has been talked about before with many Brits believing that these Oxbridge, privately-educated, middle and upper-class people have the arrogance to think they have the right to run the country.

They’re present everywhere. Edward Davey, Keir Starmer, Suella Braverman, Tony Blair etc. it’s not just a right-wing thing. In fat, you could argue, these days, it’s more so left-wing.

Even successful British actors like Emma Thompson, Tom Hiddleston, Eddie Redmayne etc exhibit these attributes. They

I just don’t want to have to live in the same country as these types of people or listen to their antics.

Luckily, I’m a dual UK-US citizen since I was born in the US while my parents were living there for a while, but I have never been there since my parents returned and I don’t know anyone there.

I really want to move to the US.

If you know what it’s like to live in the USA, can you just tell me whether if I moved to the USA, I wouldn’t have to come across any of those posh, aristocratic, upper/middle-class, privately-educated, titled, Oxbridge graduate snobs that I mentioned.

I would live in a much more meritocratic country where nobody would tolerate Oxford Union debaters thinking their opinion matters or privately-educated people thinking they have a right to run the country.

At least Trump’s wealth or that of the Kardashian’s isn’t offensive to me because it just feels different - it doesn’t feel as layered and it doesn’t make them act as entitled or snobbish.

So, if I move to USA will I be free from these types of people or will I still see some of them/hear from them? I’m not sure if America is dominated by middle-class or posh, Oxbridge graduates or aristocrats.

Sorry for the rant. Just felt overwhelmed.

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Ohthatsabitshit · 19/01/2026 23:17

It rather depends who you are. Are you white, university educated, Christian? Are you past childbearing age and are your children?

Franjipanl8r · 19/01/2026 23:16

You do you.

ImmortalJillyCooper · 19/01/2026 23:14

And the world has ended up with Trump cos the democrats had to stick with a clearly demented candidate due to their own class system. The establishment can rarely be challenged.

LoserWinner · 19/01/2026 23:13

Sure. You’ll find the same inequalities of power and privilege that exist in the UK, plus you have to pay for your health care, there’s no minimum wage, and a much less generous pension and social security systems. For those reasons, you’ll find a lot more people who share your wish to blame the ills of their life on other people.

Watchoutfortheslowaraf · 19/01/2026 23:12

Do you live in Oxford or something? Why are you so obsessed with it? Where I live in wales, I am not surrounded by posh aristocratic people with titles so am not remotely arsed. I’d take a lord of the manor over trump though any day.

Obsessivepenguin · 19/01/2026 23:11

Off you trot love. It doesn't sound like this is the place for you.

If you think the US isn't elitist you're in for a shock though. Money talks there more than almost anywhere else on the planet.

cornflourblue · 19/01/2026 23:11

Sounds like you're describing England rather than the UK, its much more egalitarion in Scotland.

Melancholyflower · 19/01/2026 23:10

Wapentake · 19/01/2026 23:04

You seem obsessed with Oxford. It is also just a university. I went there, and I grew up with an outside loo.

That's what I thought too. I'm particularly perplexed by their hatred of the Union and as far as I recall, you don't have to'dress up posh' to go there.

Alpacajigsaw · 19/01/2026 23:10

ImmortalJillyCooper · 19/01/2026 23:04

Who are you that you are hanging out with all these toffs that they dominate your life so much. Of course Britain has these privileged types. Like every other country. Doesn’t really affect me though.

This! I barely give all these people a second thought

Nevermind17 · 19/01/2026 23:10

Where do you live that your life is overrun with toffs? Come up north, we have none of that shite round here.

Alltheyellowbirds · 19/01/2026 23:08

If you don’t think there’s a class system in the USA you’re about to have a rude awakening.

maudelovesharold · 19/01/2026 23:08

Did you not get in to Oxbridge, op?

Beekman · 19/01/2026 23:07

Morepositivemum · 19/01/2026 23:02

Are you saying you hate well off people who sound a certain way? Because including actors just seems odd, I get the unfairness of class in relation to education etc and the political thing but Hermoine and Loki?!

The arts are dominated by privately educated people though. You can list the number of working class actors under 50 on one hand in the UK, music is going the same way. Poshos have always been overrepresented in entertainment but it never used to be as bad as this.

Namechangedforthis25 · 19/01/2026 23:07

What a weird post op

i don’t think the US is a meritocracy by any stretch of the imagination - there are classes and different levels of wealth - it may not go back to the aristocracy in the same way (ie it may be new money) but the behaviour is the same if not worse - a case of pulling the ladder up behind you as it were

never before has class wars and race wars been such a thing - the US is not the land it was in the past where dreams can come true for everyone - far from it

WhereIsMyLight · 19/01/2026 23:06

There isn’t the class system as you have here, but the disparity is wealth is there and the privileges that wealth buys are still there. Many politicians will be Ivy League educated. Dynasties are much more of a thing so generations and generations of the same family that start a law career before having a political career.

I’d argue it’s harder to be on a lower income in the US because there is no universal health care. Cost of food is much higher.

Wealth and privilege exist in every country.

JaniceBattersby · 19/01/2026 23:05

Do you have black or brown skin? If not, you’ll be fine in the states.

Personally I would rather put up with a class system (which tbh does not affect my day to day life) than be worried about being dragged from my car, asked to show my papers and then shoved in prison. That’s just me though.

Doingtheboxerbeat · 19/01/2026 23:05

I hear Minnesota is a great place to live and raise kids - very best of luck to you 🫶 .

Wapentake · 19/01/2026 23:04

You seem obsessed with Oxford. It is also just a university. I went there, and I grew up with an outside loo.

ImmortalJillyCooper · 19/01/2026 23:04

Who are you that you are hanging out with all these toffs that they dominate your life so much. Of course Britain has these privileged types. Like every other country. Doesn’t really affect me though.

Morepositivemum · 19/01/2026 23:02

Are you saying you hate well off people who sound a certain way? Because including actors just seems odd, I get the unfairness of class in relation to education etc and the political thing but Hermoine and Loki?!

Bonbon21 · 19/01/2026 23:02

..off you trot.. good luck...

Givemeachaitealatte · 19/01/2026 23:01

Oh yeah, USA seems very stable for immigrants at the moment you should definitely go for it. Can't imagine that getting kidnapped off the street or shot by the new Gestapo, sorry ICE, could be worse than having a hooray Henry annoy you. Have fun.

wonderstuff · 19/01/2026 23:01

I guess it depends where you go. I have cousins in Minneapolis and they are not enjoying it at all at the moment. They say there’s an atmosphere everywhere.

RazedBeds · 19/01/2026 23:00

The words "chip" and "shoulder" spring to mind.