Mixed sex changing rooms?

If you read back through my posts, you will see that I haven’t suggested that men should be in women only single sex spaces.

Personally, I am happy to use single sex or mixed, as long as cubicles are provided. But then I made that clear about ten pages back.

I don’t need your permission to use either.

thankfully, more and more stores are offering mixed sex changing room - which in that context makes perfect sense, so soon this thread will be completely redundant and the problem solved.

When places are busy lots of women have always happily gone in the mens changing rooms and even toilets (in theatres etc) to avoid having to queue. Lots of venues / shops obviously decided its easier to just make everything unisex. No big deal if there are cubicles.

No men (no matter what they or other people call them) in what should be women only single sex spaces.

Feel free to choose to use mixed sex spaces.

thankfully, more and more stores are offering mixed sex changing room - which in that context makes perfect sense, so soon this thread will be completely redundant and the problem solved.

Wow, deleted! When another poster is allowed to mock experiences of sexual abuse and/or suggest that such experiences are not true (the tiny head comment).

knowing that you were there too, you could have prevented all this drama and hold the ill fitting curtains yourself.

And because you made that point, I'll make that one:

One of the many reason why we should have mixed sex changing rooms like most shops have, is also for these kids who only have a dad (and yes, I do have very specific examples in mind).

Better cubicles and mixed sex changing rooms is an easy solution, no more drama, no more ridiculous fights about non-binary/ transexuals etc. (because in real life, how on earth do you expect a shop to CHECK the sex/ gender of their customer!)

No men (no matter what they or other people call them) in what should be women only single sex spaces.

Feel free to choose to use mixed sex spaces.

Ooh! I'll just pop off and share your bold new vision with my daughter. She'll be ecstatic 😅

There are changing rooms in kids sections. No child needs to try clothes on in adult fitting rooms.

When my kids were young i used to judge size by eye and the age on the label in any event. My kids didn't have the patience to go around trying on clothes for style.

Yes men, some men, do this but don't kid yourself that women can't be depraved. As a teenager I started work in an old-fashioned department store, think Grace brothers. I was put in the underwear department working for a woman who was a properly trained corsetiere, not like a M&S bra fitter. I was being trained and measured a woman up and went to get some bras. Got back to a stark naked woman inviting me to touch her breasts. Boss went in and had words. It was horrible and I left soon after.

knowing that you were there too, you could have prevented all this drama and hold the ill fitting curtains yourself.

And because you made that point, I'll make that one:

One of the many reason why we should have mixed sex changing rooms like most shops have, is also for these kids who only have a dad (and yes, I do have very specific examples in mind).

Better cubicles and mixed sex changing rooms is an easy solution, no more drama, no more ridiculous fights about non-binary/ transexuals etc. (because in real life, how on earth do you expect a shop to CHECK the sex/ gender of their customer!)

I have and am none the wiser. Please explain.

You don’t know the other men in the store either. Or in the shopping centre the store is in. How do people live with this level of fear about trying a dress on when there are women in other countries who aren’t even allowed to speak to each other? It’s like mass hysteria. Over a changing room in a massive shop!

knowing that you were there too, you could have prevented all this drama and hold the ill fitting curtains yourself.

And because you made that point, I'll make that one:

One of the many reason why we should have mixed sex changing rooms like most shops have, is also for these kids who only have a dad (and yes, I do have very specific examples in mind).

Better cubicles and mixed sex changing rooms is an easy solution, no more drama, no more ridiculous fights about non-binary/ transexuals etc. (because in real life, how on earth do you expect a shop to CHECK the sex/ gender of their customer!)

but as a mum, I wouldn't rather die than hanging around the men's changing rooms when my kids are shopping .

If people believe any over-8 year old belongs in the adult section, then the parent will tag along. It's beyond ridiculous to imagine 10 yo (boys or girls) shop alone. Most of them are even too young to shop with friends!

If a dad wants to hang around his own daughter, he's absolutely entitled to do so.

Done with you now. I don’t know how you manage to live in society tbh. Take care.

but as a mum, I wouldn't rather die than hanging around the men's changing rooms when my kids are shopping .

If people believe any over-8 year old belongs in the adult section, then the parent will tag along. It's beyond ridiculous to imagine 10 yo (boys or girls) shop alone. Most of them are even too young to shop with friends!

If a dad wants to hang around his own daughter, he's absolutely entitled to do so.

Completely agree. My partner would rather die than hang about the women’s (when such a thing existed) changing room waiting for me, let alone come in with me, because he’s decent. It’s also quite cringe inducing.

And I’ve never thought to come out showing him what I’m trying on for his approval. Occasionally at home we’ve both tried on what we’ve bought and said ‘this is what I got today’.

This just gives me the rage. Your inability to consider the needs of other women and girls is breathtaking. I was in a Zara women's changing room with my 11 year old daughter. She is very developed for her age and crippled with anxiety. Despite the best efforts of the shop assistant who tried to keep men out, women like you insisted on trying to sneak their partners in. At once stage there were three men in there despite the assistant asking them to leave! My daughter was stood on the other side of a flimsy curtain desperately trying to hold the ill fitting sides closed. I mean what is that even about? Are young women so pathetic now days that they can't even buy an item of clothes without male approval? Take a selfie ffs! The only reason I didnt go absolutely mental at these idiots and their idiot girlfriends was because my daughter saw my face and begged me not to. Poor pet was humiliated enough at that stage. Welcome daughter to this brave new world!

If you (or anyone) have triggers, then there are other options; ordering online and trying clothes on in home, shopping elsewhere. A business offers a service, If the business doesnt provide the level of service you require then vote with your wallet and shop elsewhere.