Mixed sex changing rooms?

Men are not a minority group.

Men who identify as trans women are not female so have no place in single SEX places for women.

If these men, and their allies respected women and saw us as fully human then women would not be effectively excluded from parts of society by the removal of provisions for us on the basis of our sex.

No, it’s because they don’t want to deal with having to say no to trans identifying male customers who quite frequently get aggressive if they are not allowed into the ladies. So everyone suffers.

and the pickme women who sneer at the fact that women can be sexually assaulted in posh shops too

I’m guessing a “pick me” woman is any woman who doesn’t share your point of view?

Yep. Tis only proper to punish women for ask not to be subjected to a higher risk of non-contact sex crimes and other harms.

While this is obviously disgusting, it doesn't make men masturbating in the women's any more desirable as an outcome to be facilitated.

Lockable doors didn’t stop a man flashing at a women in a South West M&S store.

M&S have been terrible on this for ages, from taking down the male/female signs and letting men use the women’s changing rooms to employing a man who identifies as a woman as a bra fitter (I don’t think he was very popular among the teen girls).

A recent debacle had a trans identifying male member of staff inexplicably in the lingerie department (he claimed he was passing through) who approached a teenage girl to ask if she wanted help choosing a bra.

And that’s not to mention the reviews they had published on their website from men wearing ladies underwear.

M&S have zero respect for the welfare or dignity of their female customers. I have voted with my purse. I will never shop there again.

My nearest Matalan used to have separate M and F changing rooms. I went recently and there's now one room for everyone with fewer cubicles altogether than were in just the women's previously. The cubicles were lockable but had a small gap at the bottom of the door and a BIG gap at the top. I tried the jeans on but no way was I stripping to the waist trying the bras on in such circumstances - I felt far too vulnerable.
Luckily the bras fitted as it's miles away from my home, but I won't be going back.

Women have been known to poo in changing rooms and leave it for the staff to clean up.

So you mean trans women. A minority. Shops have changed to mixed sex changing rooms due to the furore from some women about trans women using them. You reap what you sow.

There’s a thread elsewhere on Mumsnet about a male masturbating in a female changing room, complete with video if anyone is in any doubt about what he’s doing. I would guess that the type of person who does that isn’t the type of person who will clear up after themselves and will more than likely leave the cubicle in a state for the next unsuspecting user, but I could be wrong.

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and the pickme women who sneer at the fact that women can be sexually assaulted in posh shops too.

Men who want to be in women's single sex spaces for whatever reason.

Until men insisted that having a gender identity made them entitled to enter single sex spaces for women shops had single sex spaces!

Unfortunately some women don't see an issue with this, probably because women are socially conditioned to put the wishes of males before our own needs.

I don't go in M&S anymore. I was told breastfeeding in the cafe was 'making customers uncomfortable" - an old man who'd taken a photo of me and been asked by DH to delete it which prompted his complaint. Then the pervert reviews of knickers which they refused to take down and finally letting men in the bra fitting changing rooms. They seem to have forgotten who their customer is again.

That’s exactly what I chose to do. I had an unpleasant experience with a male in the changing rooms at M&S about seven or eight years ago and so decided not to purchase clothes from there anymore.

Who?

I expect most women would prefer single sex changing rooms. Unfortunately the likes of M&S don't think women's needs matter these days.

We’ll all have to stay at home soon the way this is going with something as mundane as a changing room in a department store.

Yep because men dont hide cameras in any area they can access to perve on women a children.

The ever elongating list of police officers, doctors and "nice" men convicted for non-contact sex abuse using phones and other recording devices never happen.

Did you read the OP? A women used the mixed changing rooms on the adult men’s floor.

"Has something changed in society around changing/fitting rooms in shops...?"

Woke retailers have deemed that single sex changing facilities are outdated and no longer requires by their customers. Retailers faced either keeping single sex spaces which would mean saying NO to men who want to change with women, or getting rid on single sex spaces entirely. Which is what many of them, including M&S, did.

Only a nasty bigot terf "worst kind of woman" would object to such an inclusive policy, and everyone hates them anyway, so we should all simply shut the fuck up about it.

My daughters & I take our custom elsewhere.

Our next has the women’s and men’s clothes on one floor with one lot of changing rooms and then the kids and homeware and cafe upstairs with a cafe - didn’t really think much of it - all the local supermarkets have closed their changing rooms and you just have to take it home to try stuff on

How so? In most shops the women's clothes are on a different floor or in an entirely different area from the men's section of the shop! Why would anyone pick up a item of women's clothing and carry it to the men's section to try it on, or vice versa!

We all KNOW why shops are doing this, it is not for the benefit of women!

How do mixed sex cubicles benefit women?

By making more cubicles available to use. Saves you having to go up or down a floor or wait in a queue.

Another thing is the fact if you come out of the changing booth wearing the stuff you're trying on, you couldn't really run away without leaving your bag/wallet/actual clothes in there. To potentially be stolen. Well, the wallet or bag might be. Almost like a double whammy of pervert/flasher/wanker and robber. There could be two working together?!

Yes, so why make access for men to do this easier?

How do mixed sex cubicles benefit women?

I preferred single sex ones, they were better for safety and dignity. Having mixed sex changing areas with lockable cubicles do not benefit me one bit. They increase the risk of voyeurism, they have health and safety concerns unless they have gaps at the top or the bottom in case someone has a medical episode and if they DO have gaps the voyeurism chances increase further.

In single sex areas it was easier to flag help from assistants if you got the wrong size or something without getting fully dressed first.

There is not a single benefit to women, yet so many women don't care!