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To think the USA is on the verge of civil war?

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spitofyou · 19/01/2026 07:22

I was reading this morning about trump readying 1500 troops to deploy to Minnesota following the murder of Renee Good.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2026/01/18/trump-minnesota-insurrection-act/

If this goes through, that’s it right? The insurrection act means he can suspend elections, and the military will be fighting the American people.

AIBU to think it’s inevitable at this point? Trump will never back down.

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Cassan · 19/01/2026 14:04

spitofyou · 19/01/2026 07:29

I think so too. Civil and actual war to delay the elections and keep him in power as he dies.

It’s as clear as day that the man is suffering with some form of cognitive decline. He likely doesn’t have long left and he will do whatever he wants in what time he does have.

I have seen no evidence of cognitive decline- what do you mean?

KittyEckersley · 19/01/2026 13:40

WaryCrow · 19/01/2026 08:47

@StandFirm , according to the Guardian it’s a billionaire called Lauder who stands to gain primarily. Heir to the Estée Lauder billions. Perhaps women need a new feminist movement rejecting the need for beauty and boycotting Estée Lauder specifically?

Thanks for the civil war episodes recommendation.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/15/ronald-lauder-billionaire-donor-donald-trump-ukraine-greenland

Is that Gyles Brandreth?

Ihatethistimeline · 19/01/2026 13:36

spitofyou · 19/01/2026 13:21

I find these to be really weak excuses.

It’s not an excuse, it’s a reason and a valid one at that.

Have your seen the footage of Renee Goode being shot 3 times in the head at point blank range for the crime of driving away slowly? Did you see her be labeled a domestic terrorist 2 minutes later by the Trump top team who told us to ignore the evidence of our own eyes? Did you see Fox News state that she was at fault for being a lesbian with pronouns?

People need to dissent in ways that don’t put them in lethal danger. There is an armed private militia group who have been hired with no background checks going door to door, who have been told the law doesn’t apply to them.

LakieLady · 19/01/2026 13:33

StandFirm · 19/01/2026 10:45

I think the irony of the following sentence in that same post is just breathtaking: 'why do they have right of ownership anyway? There are no written documents, it's only that a boat landed there hundreds of year ago'. Interesting wording... does he understand why Thanksgiving is celebrated every year?

I made exactly that point to a friend I met for coffee this morning.

If "landing a boat" doesn't count, he should be handing the US back to the original indigenous people.

EasternStandard · 19/01/2026 13:32

spitofyou · 19/01/2026 13:28

Yes I do actually expect the Americans who are sitting on Reddit and the like complaining to go and do something

Ik you do you’re complaining online too, luckily you wanting that won’t do much.

HarrietPierce · 19/01/2026 13:31

millymollymoomoo · Today 07:58
"totally agree with ICE
youre illegal you shouldn’t be in the country
simple as"

Says the simpleton.

spitofyou · 19/01/2026 13:29

Deadlykitten · 19/01/2026 12:46

ICE are carrying out the policies people who voted for Trump knew he stood for, and Trump won the elections. So even if you don’t like it that’s how a democracy works. ICE are removing illegal people so if you’re not illegal and they pick you up, you’ll be let go.

Like the legal citizen child who was pulled out of work, and when they realised he was a citizen, they dropped him beaten up in a car park miles away?

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spitofyou · 19/01/2026 13:28

EasternStandard · 19/01/2026 13:27

But you want others to fight? It’s a bit easy to post online asking for that.

Yes I do actually expect the Americans who are sitting on Reddit and the like complaining to go and do something

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Lindy2 · 19/01/2026 13:28

Deadlykitten · 19/01/2026 12:46

ICE are carrying out the policies people who voted for Trump knew he stood for, and Trump won the elections. So even if you don’t like it that’s how a democracy works. ICE are removing illegal people so if you’re not illegal and they pick you up, you’ll be let go.

Unless they shoot you before you have a chance to prove you are not illegal.

Did voters also vote for threats against Greenland and Europe?

EasternStandard · 19/01/2026 13:27

spitofyou · 19/01/2026 13:25

I’m not American. I didn’t vote for this. I didn’t choose this.

But you want others to fight? It’s a bit easy to post online asking for that.

spitofyou · 19/01/2026 13:25

EasternStandard · 19/01/2026 13:25

Are you in the US ready to fight?

I’m not American. I didn’t vote for this. I didn’t choose this.

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EasternStandard · 19/01/2026 13:25

spitofyou · 19/01/2026 13:21

I find these to be really weak excuses.

Are you in the US ready to fight?

LakieLady · 19/01/2026 13:22

Plus very few people in the UK have access to firearms etc.

I can't see the UK military taking part in an armed uprising.

spitofyou · 19/01/2026 13:21

Ihatethistimeline · 19/01/2026 13:17

Many people are scared to demonstrate because they have seen from Renee Goodman that the government will just label anyone as a domestic terrorist.

If a group organizes and marches they will be accused of being Antifa which has been deemed a terrorist network. ICE which resemble a personal militia or mercenary group like Putins Wagner group, have been told they can do what they want to domestic terrorists so they will just mow everyone down in the street.

Trump will then use this as justification to cancel the midterm elections. People have to find other ways to resist outside of demos eg boycotting Trumps benefactors and come out in huge number to turn Congress Blue in November.

I find these to be really weak excuses.

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AnnaQuayInTheUk · 19/01/2026 13:20

I've just heard the message he's sent to Norway about the Nobel Prize. He's completely out of control.

I think there's a good chance he is hoping for an excuse to impose martial law in the US. Plus he's desperate to invade Greenland. I don't know if it will mean civil war.

My British FiL lives there, he's got a Green Card but isn't a US citizen. We never worried about his residency status - he's got an American wife and has lived there for over 30 years - but I'm now starting to get concerned. A few weeks ago I would never have considered that his lack of citizenship might cause an issue, but I'm now changing my position.

bombastix · 19/01/2026 13:19

Ihatethistimeline · 19/01/2026 13:17

Many people are scared to demonstrate because they have seen from Renee Goodman that the government will just label anyone as a domestic terrorist.

If a group organizes and marches they will be accused of being Antifa which has been deemed a terrorist network. ICE which resemble a personal militia or mercenary group like Putins Wagner group, have been told they can do what they want to domestic terrorists so they will just mow everyone down in the street.

Trump will then use this as justification to cancel the midterm elections. People have to find other ways to resist outside of demos eg boycotting Trumps benefactors and come out in huge number to turn Congress Blue in November.

What is Congress going to do? Trump acts outside whatever they say?

Ihatethistimeline · 19/01/2026 13:17

Many people are scared to demonstrate because they have seen from Renee Goodman that the government will just label anyone as a domestic terrorist.

If a group organizes and marches they will be accused of being Antifa which has been deemed a terrorist network. ICE which resemble a personal militia or mercenary group like Putins Wagner group, have been told they can do what they want to domestic terrorists so they will just mow everyone down in the street.

Trump will then use this as justification to cancel the midterm elections. People have to find other ways to resist outside of demos eg boycotting Trumps benefactors and come out in huge number to turn Congress Blue in November.

LakieLady · 19/01/2026 13:12

FFSToEverythingSince2020 · 19/01/2026 08:08

DH and I both did politics of some form at university (him as a main focus, me as a secondary focus). The war has started. It started when fucking Trump just announced tariffs yesterday on NATO allies when they were just doing what he said SHOULD be done (ie that NATO protect Greenland). When Trump put out that Truth Social message implying that all the other members of NATO are suddenly suspect, DH and I both felt sick; that was the end of the world that we know, unless Trump’s government declares him incompetent immediately. A political podcast I listen to said it feels like the Cuban Missile Crisis. THAT message will be the beginning of WW3. Attached for those who haven’t seen it somehow. And I think your husband is being a bit too optimistic @Idontspeakgermansorry . We’re guessing within the next 12-24 months. Maybe sooner.
ATTACHED (in case they take a few minutes) photos of the Truth Social post.

He's gone properly crazy, imo.

LakieLady · 19/01/2026 13:07

One ICE agent arrested another Latin American ICE agent. It’s despicable.

It is despicable, but if it was part of a comedy movie plot, it would be funny. And probably considered far-fetched.

I've got to the point where I'm struggling to believe all this is actually happening.

StandFirm · 19/01/2026 13:05

Favouritefruits · 19/01/2026 12:38

And then this……

Colour me surprised.

ShortColdandGrey · 19/01/2026 12:58

I wants war as a way to stay in power. It has been obvious for ages and he doesn't care if it is civil war or war with the rest of the world.

CJsGoldfish · 19/01/2026 12:56

I would never have believed that US citizens would bend over and allow the country to become a fascist kleptocracy but here we are 🤷‍♀️

Then again, the writing was on the wall as soon as Musk and co started harvesting the data of citizens under the guise of 'cost cutting' which was lapped up by the dumbarse T supporters.
Barely a word of protest and no concept of what that was actually going to mean. Mindblowing.

Deadlykitten · 19/01/2026 12:46

ICE are carrying out the policies people who voted for Trump knew he stood for, and Trump won the elections. So even if you don’t like it that’s how a democracy works. ICE are removing illegal people so if you’re not illegal and they pick you up, you’ll be let go.

Favouritefruits · 19/01/2026 12:38

And then this……

To think the USA is on the verge of civil war?
Underthinker · 19/01/2026 12:30

APatternGrammar · 19/01/2026 12:12

US society is demonstrably extremely polarised, perhaps more than ever before. There is definitely potential for various lines to be drawn and people can also change allegiance as policies start to affect them.

It is, and online discussions like this, talking up the reasons for war don't help massively.

But still I think ultimately, while there will be unrest and perhaps rioting, I don't think enough ordinary Americans or their politicians have the appetite for war.

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