My doctor was late to my appointment because he had been at the local country hotel full of asylum seekers...

Can I ask why NHS funds are not supposed to be used for asylum seekers? My understanding is that the health needs of asylum seekers are met by the NHS

Didn't want to read and run, so just wanted to say...

Fuck off OP.

Hope that helps.

Who knows? They don’t know, until they do it. If tensions are rising against your particular group/sect, and you know the authorities will be coming for you at some point, what do you do?

Do you go immediately? At that point, it might be more risky to cross the med in a dinghy and cross the Alps on foot. But if you wait until you hear your neighbours are being dragged from their beds at night and murdered, it might be too late.

Also bear in mind that women are usually seen as less of a threat to authoritarian regimes than men, so are probably safer. But without a husband to support them they wouldn’t be able to make ends meet long-term.

So at what point do the scales tip? All they know is that if they reach safety, there is a good chance of a life afterwards. If they stay, there’s little or no hope.

So why aren't women doing it?

Irrelevant. It’s sensible to do something more dangerous to end up somewhere much safer.

Maybe don't book any more appointments. That'll teach them. And don't leave your house because of the state of this great nation. That'll show them. And unplug your WiFi as well. Absolutely disgusting.

My mate's Nan's cousin's hairdresser's aunty saw this screenshot on Facebook so I know it's true

That’s not what it means though. That’s trying to be pedantic about the original meaning of a word.
And giving routes from countries of origin would still deal with it.

@Nevermind17 Have you seen the journeys that asylum seekers make to get here?

Is it more dangerous or less dangerous than the countries they are coming from?

100% right. The film The Swimmers on Netflix is very educational too.

I watched an ITV journalist say much the same thing to a member of the public several months ago. That member of the public was homeless,

https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN01403/SN01403.pdf

One place to start. Only about 38% result in asylum granted. Still looking for length of time for the process, hard to gather as many are appealed and then won on appeal.

Have you seen the journeys that asylum seekers make to get here?

I’d really recommend this programme. It’s quite enlightening and will explain the same old questions that people ask, and other people answer, but those answers seem to go in one ear and out the other.

Would you put your two year old in a rubber dinghy across the Mediterranean Sea, or would you hope your DH could get to a country where he could secure safe passage for you and your child to come by plane?

Seen 'Go Back to Where You Came From'? Watch it here on Channel 4:

www.channel4.com/programmes/go-back-to-where-you-came-from?cntsrc=social_share_ios_go_back_to_where_you_came_from

God, you're properly unpleasant, aren't you?

Nobody makes the dangerous crossing unless they are desperate

And even refugees have a choice in which safe country they would like to settle.

Most however stay close to home.

You misread my comment.

"Asylum" means a place of refuge.
An asylum seeker is someone who wants to move from a dangerous place to a less dangerous place.

If the channel crossing is MORE dangerous than the place where they live, then by definition, they are not seeking a safe place.

If they wanted a safe place, then they wouldn't go to the English channel... unless the English channel is safer than where they live.

I seem to have misread the tone of your post but ofcourse it makes sense

That’s nonsense. Asylum status is not based on the relative danger of the journey. Though I agree, it would be good if we could allow people to claim asylum in their country of origin (or nearby).

@ElectoralControversy Can you think of any reasons why a dangerous journey might have a different risk for men and women?

If the journey is more dangerous than their home country, then they are not asylum seekers.

Do you know what "asylum" means? It means a place of refuge. So if the journey is more dangerous than the conditions at home, then they are not seeking safety.

@DuncinToffee The stats were to show the poster who doubted the fact that there are women and children asylum seekers.

Why are women not 50% of asylum seekers?

As you say when using common sense it is very understandable that more men are making the dangerous journey to safety.

This makes absolutely no sense. Asylum seekers are supposedly escaping dangerous and hazardous conditions. If the journey was more dangerous than the conditions they live in, then they would not be making the journey.

Yet, we see many asylum seekers coming to the UK. That's because the channel crossing journey is NOT more dangerous than living in a war zone. So why then are women not making the same journey to safety?

Is it not more probable that these men are simply treating women as expendable, and do not consider women as equals, which is why they are more than happy to leave the women in their country behind while they journey to safety?

Why should they care what happens to the women back home? The UK has more women.

it doesn’t make any difference to me who is responsible, it is just too much

'All these issues stem from utterly ineffectual politicians'

Did you miss this bit?

I see Little Mi55Nobody most definitely did not avail herself of the education offered to her-had she, she may then have imbibed those ‘British values’ all the racists like her value so much but which they have no evidence of having ever taken to heart. She might even have developed some thinking skills.

Because having people dying or going through unnecessary suffering is the right thing to do?

Probably because it’s more efficient to see the patients at their residence. GPs and District Nurses do the same for nursing homes. Perhaps there’s an interpreter there? It’s not really anyone’s business. I never have trouble getting a GP appointment. I think there’s a lot of right wing propaganda about the NHS. My experience and that of my family and older relatives and friends doesn’t match the doomsayers from the right at all . I fully believe the HC professionals are overworked and underpaid but they that’s because years of rubbish capitalism not a few refugees.

The stats were to show the poster who doubted the fact that there are women and children asylum seekers.

As you say when using common sense it is very understandable that more men are making the dangerous journey to safety.