My doctor was late to my appointment because he had been at the local country hotel full of asylum seekers...

So you think you’re entitled to live in a utopia, because you happened to be born here, but they should all have to live in poverty/war zones etc because they were born there?

The more the left uses that term, the more it is losing it's meaning. It isn't about the colour of their skin, but try getting through to a left extremist.

I don’t want to sound condescending but I don’t think you understand the reality of living in a nearer safer country.

So for an example we can look at Syria. Most Syrians will go to Turkey, where they’ll stay in temporary settlement camps. Turkey is not a rich country, and the camps are awful places with extremely basic provisions (clean water and a tent/hut). Some don’t even have electricity. There is a lot of anti-refugee sentiment, and the government are closing camps all the time. There are currently four million refugees in Turkey.

There are also two million refugees in Lebanon, out of a total population of less than six million. Over 1 in 3 people in Lebanon are refugees - mainly Syrian followed by Palestinians. And similarly, the conditions of the camps are squalid. There is no chance of a ‘life’ there.

That is why people try to get out, quite understandably. So the next safe country is either Greece (by dinghy) or Albania (via mountains). Both are impoverished countries. They can’t afford to support millions of extra people. So when they can’t get work or shelter there, they move on. And they’ll keep going until they can make a life somewhere.

It’s not fair to expect one country to absorb them all. One phrase that really gets up my nose is “But why do they all come here? It’s for the benefits!” They don’t all come here. In fact we take very few compared to many other countries. They actually get the same benefits pretty much everywhere in Europe. But if you’re English-speaking (as a lot of the world is) and have a cousin in the UK who runs a business and can give you work, then the UK would be a more attractive prospect than going to a country where you know nobody and can’t speak the language.

On the list of countries with the most asylum seekers per capita, the UK is in 58th position.

Yes, when they don't belong here. Came here illegaly. Without women and children. Mostly young men. Never contributed and never will. Putting them up in hotels when we have a large homeless population as it is. Families in hostels because of the lack of housing.

The indigenous people of the county struggle to get a doctor's appointment. Waiting months for delayed life saving operations.

7M quid a day spent on housing these undocumented men in hotels. Imagine if that money way ploughed back into our services.

This country should be like a Utopia, but it's become an absolute shit hole.

At least you are honest about your racist views.

At least you are honest about your racist views.

The question is why is an NHS doctor out doing home visits at this place when NHS funds are not supposed to be used?

Yes, when they don't belong here. Came here illegaly. Without women and children. Mostly young men. Never contributed and never will. Putting them up in hotels when we have a large homeless population as it is. Families in hostels because of the lack of housing.

The indigenous people of the county struggle to get a doctor's appointment. Waiting months for delayed life saving operations.

7M quid a day spent on housing these undocumented men in hotels. Imagine if that money way ploughed back into our services.

This country should be like a Utopia, but it's become an absolute shit hole.

Sickening to offer basic healthcare to sick people?

Strange though isnt it that they traverse through many safe countries until.they reach the Land of milk and honey 🤔

I recommend reading first-hand accounts of people’s journeys to the UK from places like Afghanistan. Really brings it to life.

Many are desperate, but also many do not really understand the horrors of the journey they are about to undertake. Like many things, you can convince yourself it will be ok, worth it etc. and then the reality is so different.

There are those desperate to paint you as racist @doodiethewonderdog. This is why discussions are stifled. Is it people being compassionate to or virtuous? We have a right to express our disssatisfaction at public services and that includes observing what seem to be priority appointments. After just recovering from a cancer scare, I know I have become more vigilant to my own health and mortality. If that comes at the risk of being super critical and highly observant, so be it.

It's sad that this cannot be discussed. It's not goady. It's a matter of fact for some people. What is Labour's solution? To build new homes for these men. How do people on council waiting lists feel about this. We ARE allowed to raise these issues.

There are those desperate to paint you as racist @doodiethewonderdog. This is why discussions are stifled. Is it people being compassionate to or virtuous? We have a right to express our disssatisfaction at public services and that includes observing what seem to be priority appointments. After just recovering from a cancer scare, I know I have become more vigilant to my own health and mortality. If that comes at the risk of being super critical and highly observant, so be it.

People are saying would you put a child in a dinghy to make the dangerous journey across the channel. I don’t understand why anyone who had gone through many safe countries including France would choose to put themselves in such a dangerous position, just to get to Britain. I’m sure many other countries offer as many opportunities as we do (and with better weather). Why would you leave your loved ones in a desperate situation when you could all travel together to a closer safe country?.

Well yes, obviously 'perhaps' and 'think', because I've never been in that situation! It would depend on a multitude of different factors, and it'd be silly of me to pretend certainty.

I don't really think you need to justify the emotion of annoyance?

I get annoyed when elderly people in the supermarket block the aisles and are so slow. I know they're elderly and would probably love to be able to race along, so it's not very kind of me to feel that way, but it's maddening. Why can't they just stick to one side so I can get past?

Do you think it's acceptable for people to feel concern about the fact that large influxes of people in concentrated areas might be deeply misogynistic, from nations where women's rights are abysmal, and who are unaccustomed to (or dislike) the way things are done regarding women's rights in the country they're settling in?

Who knows! Maybe the OP would've. But I imagine it's because the people holding up her GP aren't UK citizens, if they're asylum seekers, and she resents that she, a UK citizen, is being inconvenienced for the sake of non-citizens. I think it's fair to find that annoying, although of course annoyance isn't a reason to deny them essential medical care.

As for valid concerns, an influx of people from a different culture will eventually impact the culture of the nation they're settling in, and if there are a large number of them or they settle in concentrated areas, that effect will be magnified. Sometimes for good, but sometimes for ill.
One example is that many of the people coming in are born and raised in cultures that are more misogynistic than the UK; that potential effect is a very negative and worrisome one.

And frankly, I don't think there's anything wrong with just wanting things to stay the way they were? I don't think being wary of immigration, or wanting to restrict it, is some kind of moral failing.

For a poor analogy: if you think of a country as a home, then mostly we're very picky about who we might allow to live our homes, and we want people who live/board in our homes to fit in with our values, and to bring something that improves our lives.

Who knows! Maybe the OP would've. But I imagine it's because the people holding up her GP aren't UK citizens, if they're asylum seekers, and she resents that she, a UK citizen, is being inconvenienced for the sake of non-citizens. I think it's fair to find that annoying, although of course annoyance isn't a reason to deny them essential medical care.

As for valid concerns, an influx of people from a different culture will eventually impact the culture of the nation they're settling in, and if there are a large number of them or they settle in concentrated areas, that effect will be magnified. Sometimes for good, but sometimes for ill.
One example is that many of the people coming in are born and raised in cultures that are more misogynistic than the UK; that potential effect is a very negative and worrisome one.

And frankly, I don't think there's anything wrong with just wanting things to stay the way they were? I don't think being wary of immigration, or wanting to restrict it, is some kind of moral failing.

For a poor analogy: if you think of a country as a home, then mostly we're very picky about who we might allow to live our homes, and we want people who live/board in our homes to fit in with our values, and to bring something that improves our lives.

Are you saying the OP is justified in her annoyance because the GP was treating non UK citizens?

Who knows! Maybe the OP would've. But I imagine it's because the people holding up her GP aren't UK citizens, if they're asylum seekers, and she resents that she, a UK citizen, is being inconvenienced for the sake of non-citizens. I think it's fair to find that annoying, although of course annoyance isn't a reason to deny them essential medical care.

As for valid concerns, an influx of people from a different culture will eventually impact the culture of the nation they're settling in, and if there are a large number of them or they settle in concentrated areas, that effect will be magnified. Sometimes for good, but sometimes for ill.
One example is that many of the people coming in are born and raised in cultures that are more misogynistic than the UK; that potential effect is a very negative and worrisome one.

And frankly, I don't think there's anything wrong with just wanting things to stay the way they were? I don't think being wary of immigration, or wanting to restrict it, is some kind of moral failing.

For a poor analogy: if you think of a country as a home, then mostly we're very picky about who we might allow to live our homes, and we want people who live/board in our homes to fit in with our values, and to bring something that improves our lives.

Do you think the OP would have started a thread if their appointment was delayed because the GP visited a care home instead of an asylum seekers home?

And what are these understandable xenophobic concerns?