To wonder if anyone has or is considering moving to a country that's less likely to be involved if Putin attacks a NATO country. (title edited by MNHQ at request of OP)

I don't like to say 'I knew it', but I did.

Ah, so, the world is complicated and glorious.

It's never black and white.

I lived in the RoI for five years, it's certainly not 'neutral' they have their own politics that are very aligned with Europe, the US and the UK in many ways.

And if the UK was going to get dragged into a worldwide conflict, Ireland would get dragged in, whether they like it or not.

HOWEVER!! If you are young and want to live somewhere good and independent minded, I'd look at Norway. Great country with the largest sovereign fund in the world, and they use it for good.

Its how I was brought up a coward runs and hides behind citizens, citizens fight to defend your country.
Every single generation of my family has served our country in 1 way or another.
@Carla786 wants to run away and hide behind the citizens of another country rather than defend her own please tell me how thats not cowardly?

Get off the internet

The idea of buggering off to a 'neutral' country is poor.

There really isn't such a thing a a 'neutral country' really. Where do you think the Nazis washed all their ill-gotten gains?

(Clue, it was Switzerland).

What's all this "are YOU are coward or a citizen?" Sounds like a line from a bad script.

How old are you @Carla786?

Youngish I guess.

I totally ignore all the rubbish about war.

I think that a lot has changed in the world since Trump became president.

The UK and NATO have spent the last several decades heavily relying on the US to do the heavy lifting when it comes to defence.

Trump has made it clear that America will no longer be doing this and that we need to invest significantly in standing on our own two feet militarily.

Whilst this is fair and true, it will take at least 5-10 years for the UK and NATO to get to this point. In the meantime, questions are being asked about whether or not Trump would come to the aid of NATO if the need arose.

I would welcome a year of national service and increased defence spending. We are toothless and having to brown-nose to Trump at the moment because all of our military capabilities are so tied up with America - i think we are realising a bit late in tbe day that that's been a mistake.

but their armoury isn’t any better is it? And they’re not exactly going to say “we’ve failed in Ukraine so we’ll move on to something nato instead. You know, see how much worse we can do.”
Anyway, this thread is clearly pure click bate.

Putin is too bogged down in Ukraine right now to think seriously about attacking anywhere else, and his own military personnel would probably get rid of him if he tried. No point trying to gain control of the Baltic if you haven't even managed to secure the Black Sea yet.

By the time he gets around to invading a NATO country NATO won't even exist anymore, thanks to Trump, and the likelihood of PM Nigel Farage lifting a finger to defend any EU member state seems pretty low.

Putting knows that our nuclear bombs are well past their sell by date and unlikely to work, hes the sort of psychopath who would happily allow large swathes of his country and population to be obliterated so long as he can be king of the smoking rubble.
Defending our country involves fighting overseas aswell as on home territory and as a citizen i would do so if necessary.
The question remains are YOU a coward or a citizen?

We moved to Sweden (DH's home country) from the UK 10 years ago. Last year all 2007 born children (young adults) were sent a compulsive 'national service' questionnaire. Obviously there physical and mental exemptions.

This week my two 18 year olds travelled 6 hours by train to Stockholm to a military facility to complete a series of tests. IQ, psychological and a physical. One failed the physical and the other has been giving a 9 months stint (could extend to 12/18 months) beginning the end of June after high school. Further education places will be put on hold.

As he was born in the UK he was asked questions like in the unlikely event on Sweden going to war with he UK how would you feel about it. Oddly, they asked him how he thought I would feel about it him fighting for Sweden.

@Carla786 If ww3 breaks out it will be a nuclear war and nowhere on earth will be safe, its bend over and kiss your arse goodbye time. The only question you should be asking is if you want to die quickly (in the vaporisation zones) or slowly (from radiation poisoning).
My choice is quickly hence I live within 10 miles of a primary target as I know how bad a death from radiation poisoning is.
If (massive huge if) we were invaded i would have no problem fighting to defend my home from an invading army. But I'm a military brat and former reservist and was raised to believe that if you're not willing to defend you country you are a coward who doesn't deserve citizenship.
The question is are you a coward or a citizen?

Given what Russia hasn’t achieved in Ukraine in the past three years what makes anyone think they have anything?

leaders have to take threats seriously but that doesn’t mean they carry any weight.

If putin had anything he would have taken Ukraine and he hasn’t. That tells you everything you need to know.

The US is a far bigger threat. Trump will invade Greenland and IMO it will be soon. And at that point nato will cease to exist.