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To wonder if anyone has or is considering moving to a country that's less likely to be involved if Putin attacks a NATO country. (title edited by MNHQ at request of OP)

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Carla786 · 17/01/2026 00:02

I hope that if WW3 happened, I'd be brave enough to stay and fight. I love Britain & I'd hate to leave it or see it invaded by Putin.

However, at the same time I'm wondering about the recent rush of articles suggesting conflict with Russia is inevitable by around 2030 and that civilians need to prepare to be conscripted to fight if NATO is attacked. I'd always thought Britain being land-invaded was fairly unlikely, but being called up to fight in a NATO war widens the options of what might happen.

Countries that are less likely to be involved include Austria, Switzerland, New Zealand, Republic of Ireland. I don't particularly want to move to any of these. If call-ups are likely to be imminent in about 4 years, I don't know..

The country I've always thought I'd move to if I did move is Poland (where I have family ties)- but of course that's far more likely to be involved in a potential war!

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user1476613140 · 17/01/2026 08:16

Probably Finland.

DLAtoPIP · 17/01/2026 08:12

More threat of Trump invading than Putin. I doubt anywhere would be truly ‘safe’ in the event of ww3

umberellaonesie · 17/01/2026 08:11

The most worrying thing is trumps disregard for NATO. that is a more worrying catalyst to conflict than Russia.

Nannyfannybanny · 17/01/2026 08:10

babyproblems, you are correct, I had a friend who was a solicitor, she was emigrating to NZ with her DH, then they said they didn't require solicitors at that time, she had to re apply and wait several years. A cousin emigrated to Australia, ironically because she thought there would be a war here. It was extremely complicated..I also have relatives who emigrated to Canada.. I do feed the birds, I've never seen a squirrel in our garden, although we're in a village,fields and farms just 2 roads away.. yesterday we saw the sparrows waiting, the food didn't last long!

umberellaonesie · 17/01/2026 08:09

I agree with you and have been following developments (not closely it is too terrifying).
Conscription will happen. military resources have been under funded and stripped for the last 20 years. We do not have enough troops or equipment.
I am mother to 3 young men, one is planning to join up anyway, one is medically exempt and the other works in essential homefront services.
But I can see a time where potentially they are all called up or choose to fight.
Look at Ukraine they they had to boost their armed forces recruit troops. We aren't so different a society to them.

Lambington · 17/01/2026 08:08

Nato are currently moving troops into Greeenland to defend it against the USA. Goes to show you can never predict where conflict might spring up.
Also Iceland (which OP mentiobs as another potential "refuge") was a founding NATO member so would definitely be involved in any conflict with Russia or the US!

Taytocrisps · 17/01/2026 08:06

I live in the ROI and I don't take our neutrality for granted. Tyrants tend not to respect neutrality when it comes to land grabs. The only reason our neutrality remained intact during WWII is because Hitler's plan to invade the UK failed. And our proximity to England meant that the Germans dropped bombs along the east coat of Ireland, most notably the North Strand bombing. How the 1941 North Strand bombings wiped out an entire family I suggest you consider the proximity of Ireland to England before you make a move across the Irish sea. And you might also want to note that the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland occupy the same small island.

How the 1941 North Strand bombings wiped out an entire family

The German bombing of Dublin's North Strand caused the tragic deaths of seven members of the same family.

https://www.rte.ie/brainstorm/2021/0531/1224451-north-strand-bombing-1941-brown-family-edenderry/

StMichaelPenkevil · 17/01/2026 08:03

QPZM · 17/01/2026 00:32

Couldn't you have told us this without insulting the size of his testicles?

🤣🤣🤣🤣

TomeletteswithGreggs · 17/01/2026 07:54

Hufflemuff · 17/01/2026 04:32

Yes we actually have. I work for a large company, in a global role. If WW3 kicked off i would hopefully be able to move my household family to India, USA or even China. Given the choice probably India, as i think application process would be easier and out of the 3 they are less likely to be involved.

India? Just narrowly escaped nuclear war last May.
China? Likely to start the next war.
USA. Internal ICE war!

OP, what skills do you have?

PonkyPonky · 17/01/2026 07:53

Russia might be stupid enough to do it but the wouldn’t stand a chance in hell unless they used their nuclear weapons. Their population is vast compared to ours but not when you compare to all of NATO. Their military budget is minuscule compared to USA. Their only hope would be if they teamed up with China but why would China want to when they prosper so much from the western world buying their crap?

TeenagersAngst · 17/01/2026 07:50

havingoneofthosedays · 17/01/2026 07:47

Imagine coming on scaremongering and your source of information comes from the DM 😆😆😆 that's totally made my weekend, brilliant!

I think a fair amount of it also came from ChatGPT.

havingoneofthosedays · 17/01/2026 07:47

Imagine coming on scaremongering and your source of information comes from the DM 😆😆😆 that's totally made my weekend, brilliant!

Ginmonkeyagain · 17/01/2026 07:46

@Theroadt i mean if the feared conflict is between USA and Europe over Greenland - moving to Canada is very much a frying pan in to the fire decision.

ProfessionalPirate · 17/01/2026 07:44

Hoardasurass · 17/01/2026 02:28

Its how I was brought up a coward runs and hides behind citizens, citizens fight to defend your country.
Every single generation of my family has served our country in 1 way or another.
@Carla786 wants to run away and hide behind the citizens of another country rather than defend her own please tell me how thats not cowardly?

You’ve been indoctrinated. You sound like those hideous women from WW1 handing out white feathers. Did you serve in the military, out of interest?

Theroadt · 17/01/2026 07:41

I’d love to leave UK for eg Canada or Kiwi but am too old now (59) and not for fear of war but fed up with the politics since Brexit and tanking economy, narrower options for my teenage DC etc.

If there’s a world war it will effect everyone to some extent - clue’s in the name.

Namechangedasouting987 · 17/01/2026 07:40

DH and I have talked about planning for an escalation in hostile attacks. Cyber attacks are very likely. So how for instance could we manage without gas and or electricity for long periods. Could we isolate our solar panels from the national grid to give us some power. Should we actually replace our electric car with petrol. Growing more of my own food. Etc etc.
Trump currently scares me more than Putin. I cannot imagine him leaving power after his term is up. And he can do so much damage, seemingly unchecked, in the 4 years he has left. The biggest power in the world is destabilising
Add to that climate change and i do think we are in an extinction event.
Having young adult DC makes the poss of a land war v scary.

GaIadriel · 17/01/2026 07:37

Unless the conflict goes nuclear (which I don't think anybody is stupid enough to initiate) there's no way on earth Putin is invading us. He's struggling with the country right nextdoor to him which has less military capability than the UK alone.

Cherry8809 · 17/01/2026 07:36

I’d be more concerned at the prospect of China invading Taiwan, but nobody seems to be paying attention to them gearing up for that.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 17/01/2026 07:35

That bird feeder is something else!!! Getting that.

Ginmonkeyagain · 17/01/2026 07:15

Calm your heels. You didn't live through the cold war and it shows!

Horserider5678 · 17/01/2026 07:04

Carla786 · 17/01/2026 00:56

I'm still sceptical of Trump invading.

Who knows, though?

I think you need to be more worried about Trump invading Greenland! That would be the end of NATO, but I think the US would suffer more than Europe! If that was to happen I suspect a more likely scenario would be Putin would make a grab to reclaim Alaska as its mineral rich, which is the main reason Trump wants Greenland! I think you’ll find Trump is far more dangerous than Putin!

EricTheHalfASleeve · 17/01/2026 06:54

Carla786 · 17/01/2026 00:51

Ireland, Switzerland & Austria have all fairly long traditions of neutrality.

Moreover, Switzrlerland is not a NATO member, nor is Austria or Ireland.

Austria was neutral in WW11 & WW1 was it? Aye right pal.

babyproblems · 17/01/2026 06:41

Always makes me giggle that people often think they could just up and move to another country as if they were moving round the corner. You’d literally have to qualify for a visa, prove employment, financial stability etc. I can’t help but think there is a link between the ‘just up and move / we’re entitled to live wherever of course’ and the threat of Russian war..

BusyPeachEagle · 17/01/2026 06:30

Not sure why you would consider NZ but not Australia. If Australia goes to war, I would expect NZ will be right with them.

xSnowFairyx · 17/01/2026 05:53

Currently planning my move to the island of Tristan da Cunha.

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