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To wonder if anyone has or is considering moving to a country that's less likely to be involved if Putin attacks a NATO country. (title edited by MNHQ at request of OP)

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Carla786 · 17/01/2026 00:02

I hope that if WW3 happened, I'd be brave enough to stay and fight. I love Britain & I'd hate to leave it or see it invaded by Putin.

However, at the same time I'm wondering about the recent rush of articles suggesting conflict with Russia is inevitable by around 2030 and that civilians need to prepare to be conscripted to fight if NATO is attacked. I'd always thought Britain being land-invaded was fairly unlikely, but being called up to fight in a NATO war widens the options of what might happen.

Countries that are less likely to be involved include Austria, Switzerland, New Zealand, Republic of Ireland. I don't particularly want to move to any of these. If call-ups are likely to be imminent in about 4 years, I don't know..

The country I've always thought I'd move to if I did move is Poland (where I have family ties)- but of course that's far more likely to be involved in a potential war!

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AgnesMcDoo · 17/01/2026 10:12

Countries safe from Putin are China and North Korea and I don’t fancy them much.

ChurchWindows · 17/01/2026 10:08

This lovely little fella was scratching around looking for worms while I ate my breakfast this morning.

To wonder if anyone has or is considering moving to a country that's less likely to be involved if Putin attacks a NATO country. (title edited by MNHQ at request of OP)
ChurchWindows · 17/01/2026 10:06

OutTheWayOut · 17/01/2026 00:20

May I ask what food you are using? I am not sure I am offering best selection at the moment.

Also some squirrels live in trees at the back - so I might need to check the feeders!

Home Bargains do a reasonably priced range of bird food. Their mealworms are the cheapest I can find anywhere and everything seems to like them.

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landlordhell · 17/01/2026 10:02

Frugalgal · 17/01/2026 10:00

We are already at war with Russia but they are never going to be in a position to invade the UK. They'd have to get all the way across Europe first.

War War 3 has probably already started but if it kicked off properly with nukes and such, it wouldn't really matter where you were there would be no escape from it.

Have you heard of missiles? They can get across Europe.

Frugalgal · 17/01/2026 10:00

Carla786 · 17/01/2026 00:02

I hope that if WW3 happened, I'd be brave enough to stay and fight. I love Britain & I'd hate to leave it or see it invaded by Putin.

However, at the same time I'm wondering about the recent rush of articles suggesting conflict with Russia is inevitable by around 2030 and that civilians need to prepare to be conscripted to fight if NATO is attacked. I'd always thought Britain being land-invaded was fairly unlikely, but being called up to fight in a NATO war widens the options of what might happen.

Countries that are less likely to be involved include Austria, Switzerland, New Zealand, Republic of Ireland. I don't particularly want to move to any of these. If call-ups are likely to be imminent in about 4 years, I don't know..

The country I've always thought I'd move to if I did move is Poland (where I have family ties)- but of course that's far more likely to be involved in a potential war!

We are already at war with Russia but they are never going to be in a position to invade the UK. They'd have to get all the way across Europe first.

War War 3 has probably already started but if it kicked off properly with nukes and such, it wouldn't really matter where you were there would be no escape from it.

landlordhell · 17/01/2026 09:44

OutTheWayOut · 17/01/2026 00:20

May I ask what food you are using? I am not sure I am offering best selection at the moment.

Also some squirrels live in trees at the back - so I might need to check the feeders!

I made some lard and seed stuffed pine cones with my class and they were demolished within a week! No idea which species ate them but they sure were popular!
Anyway, no I don’t fear conscription as any war is unlikely to be man to man. I have no control therefore I am happy noticing the daffodil shoots and the buds. It was still brightish at 4.45pm yesterday.

MooMoo74 · 17/01/2026 09:41

I see what you mean yeah. However i wouldn’t fight for this country, our government is a joke. They can send their own kids to fight.

Luckyingame · 17/01/2026 09:38

No.
However, I will move back to where I was born
(a lucrative European capital city), when my remaining (abusive) elderly parent disappears.
Economic reasons, quality of life there is far better than Britain now.
I don't really think the WW3 will happen.

ElleintheWoods · 17/01/2026 09:33

Yes, having had family members severely suffer in war and lose everything, it has crossed my mind whether where we are geographically is safe. Although Britain is one of the countries with most political and military deterrents to not be bombed down like Gaza or part of Ukraine, as long as it stays allied to the US, unfortunately.

I'd have thought Denmark, where I'm from, would usually be fairly safe, but apparently it'll be the focal point. The times we live in, eh.

Would be Switzerland, South America or NZ for me.

War potential isn't the only factor though, been thinking of emigrating for a while. But it does add to it.

UnhappyHobbit · 17/01/2026 09:30

I’m interested in the European countries you listed as potentially safe in the event of WW3. Ireland, for example. Given the level of American influence there, it’s hard to imagine them refusing U.S. pressure? Especially under someone like Trump. Add to that Ireland’s close proximity to the UK and the fact that Northern Ireland is part of the UK, it’s unclear what real protection Ireland would offer if it escalates.

Austria is another questionable one. I mean, historically, it was annexed first it by Germany before World War II. While neutral perhaps now, in reality it could make Austria an easy target to be used or occupied again. The same concern applies to much of Europe.

Realistically, New Zealand seems like the safest option. Geographically isolated, far removed from NATO.

Rituelec · 17/01/2026 09:27

I dont think you have time

TakeMe2Insanity · 17/01/2026 09:26

The thing about war is goes where ever it wants.

Remember there are thousands of people in the world trying to escape actual war.

Minjou · 17/01/2026 09:26

QPZM · 17/01/2026 00:53

Yeah but can you just turn up with your suitcase and family and tell them you're moving in?

Ireland you can, of course

MangaKanga · 17/01/2026 09:24

New Zealand is a notoriously difficult country to emigrate to... and that's from an Australian. So saying I actually technically have the right to live and work there and would certainly prefer it to the UK (from which I returned home with my family recently).

I don't believe they have even once had illegal "boat people" arrive by sea btw so you'd best be looking at what legal means of immigration might be available to you.

Marrying a Kiwi is still a viable route, though this route has largely closed or been restricted in many other countries now, including the UK, so whether that will remain the case in the future is anyone's guess.

caffelatte100 · 17/01/2026 09:20

In Switzerland, there has long been compulsory national service for men aged 18 to 30 (recently extended to 40). Most serve in the army, while others do civil protection or civilian service. It's a deterrent and, if a whole WW3 breaks out then each country will have to be prepared.

Those who cannot serve for health reasons (including mental health) or who choose not to must pay a military exemption tax of 3% for several years.
Typical distribution:

• Regular military service: 40–60%
• Civilian service: 20–30%
• Unfit / do not serve: 20–30%

Women may serve as well, but it is voluntary and only a small percentage do so.
In 2024 more than 30,000 young people completed the initial 18-week training, with some serving nine months or a year. Recruits can be called up quickly and normally return each year for a further two to three weeks of training.

It is very much part of the culture and many young men take pride in it. The army offers a range of training and opportunities to learn new skills. My sons (who are both English and Swiss) will serve and are looking forward to it. I can’t imagine anything similar taking hold in England.

Lifestooshort71 · 17/01/2026 09:15

If I was going to be worried about some cataclysmic event in the future it wouldn't be WW3, it would be China flicking the switch that would cut off our money, our fuel, our Internet and all our telecommunications. It would make Covid look like the first rehearsal and would swiftly bring us to our knees. Or, I could carry on as I am and just get on with day-to-day stuff. I would never run away so the title thread is not for me and, if I can't change the outcome, why give worry and anxiety any headspace? It's raining here and I'm watching a cute squirrel half way up an evergreen, sheltering under a canopy of leaves. Cute.

TomeletteswithGreggs · 17/01/2026 09:13

MayBeee · 17/01/2026 09:11

It's 2026 but I hope your sanity prevailed for last year !

Gosh. Clearly I am still in a daze. 😁
Began the year with some family difficulty, so struggling a bit.
Going out for a long walk now and definitely not checking to see if Trump has invaded Greenland.

MayBeee · 17/01/2026 09:11

TomeletteswithGreggs · 17/01/2026 08:18

I do think being interested in birds or nature or long walks is crucial to staying sane in 2025.

It's 2026 but I hope your sanity prevailed for last year !

MayBeee · 17/01/2026 09:08

Carla786 · 17/01/2026 00:02

I hope that if WW3 happened, I'd be brave enough to stay and fight. I love Britain & I'd hate to leave it or see it invaded by Putin.

However, at the same time I'm wondering about the recent rush of articles suggesting conflict with Russia is inevitable by around 2030 and that civilians need to prepare to be conscripted to fight if NATO is attacked. I'd always thought Britain being land-invaded was fairly unlikely, but being called up to fight in a NATO war widens the options of what might happen.

Countries that are less likely to be involved include Austria, Switzerland, New Zealand, Republic of Ireland. I don't particularly want to move to any of these. If call-ups are likely to be imminent in about 4 years, I don't know..

The country I've always thought I'd move to if I did move is Poland (where I have family ties)- but of course that's far more likely to be involved in a potential war!

How old are you and do you have children ?
Assume you are female so unlikely you would be conscripted if you are bringing up children .
If you don't have children , then of course there is always the possibility , and a worry if you have late teenage children .

BMW6 · 17/01/2026 09:05

Lemondessert · 17/01/2026 08:57

I don’t think planning ahead is the answer. Trump is possibly trying for that now. No other country can stand up to him and he knows it. I also don’t think any country will necessarily be safe. Many countries won’t just let you move there.

Of course not. All borders close at the first serious signs of trouble ahead so their Governments can plan and organise for their people. They won't want untold numbers rocking up expecting the same protection as existing citizens - and of course sleeper agents and saboteurs will try and infiltrate. You could be executed as an enemy alien by the country you are seeking to save your sorry arse.

MangaKanga · 17/01/2026 09:03

Think of Michel Thomas, who escaped from Poland and ended up via a very dangerous route in France, just before it capitulated to the Nazis.

Fearfulsaints · 17/01/2026 09:03

Nowhere would have me now when this plan is justvabout workable, let alone if war is immenet. Im stuck trying to make where I live ok. I dont have any shortage skills and I dont have enough cash in the bank. All my money is tied up in a house which presumably wouldnt be worth much in place where war is about to kick off and very hard to liquidate.

I did have an idea to go to chile at one point in my life for other reasons though

CantBreathe90 · 17/01/2026 09:02

Idk. You could move to New Zealand to avoid Putin, then Trump could declare war on New Zealand because "sheep are anti-Freedom" or something.

Gahr · 17/01/2026 09:02

Putin will be dead by 2030. Stop reading nonsense.

BMW6 · 17/01/2026 08:59

DLAtoPIP · 17/01/2026 08:57

And the neutral countries won’t necessarily be safe either .

Exactly! The OP seems to think that bombs, Chemical weapons, Internet attacks etc etc all stop at border crossings! 😂

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