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I know I am being wildly unreasonable about DD’s New York trip but I need people to tell me I am

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CurlewKate · 16/01/2026 11:56

Dd is going to New York for a two week work trip tomorrow. Obviously I won’t tell her this-but I am so scared about her being in the US at the moment. I’m not at all an anxious person and I’ve never felt like this about anyone travelling abroad before. Tell me I’m being completely irrational!

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LemaxObsessive · 17/01/2026 10:13

Nah my DD wouldn’t be going unless/until she’s an adult and making her own decisions. I’ve been and NY is a filthy, dangerous, drug-addict filled, rubbish city that absolutely REEKS of cannabis. I’ve never been more disgusted by a city and I’ve been to Bradford! Eugh I can’t believe people raise children there.

Vivi0 · 17/01/2026 10:07

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People from other countries don’t need to visit because, a. It shows support for the dictatorship regime

Lol.

Fuggleup · 17/01/2026 10:04

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Goldenbear · 17/01/2026 09:59

My apologies you'll be fine if you are apolitical, rich and not a 'foreigner' that is from one of the 17(?) countries listed for visa freezes! Particularly as you will be visiting a country famously hostile to football not f**king 'soccer'. Jeez, when is FIFA going to treat us to a world cup in a Liberal democracy!!

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And when is Mumsnet going to treat us to the good old days of Mumsnet, those halcyon days where no Maga/Farage fans posted on this lefty site!

Fuggleup · 17/01/2026 10:00

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Goldenbear · 17/01/2026 09:59

Vivi0 · 17/01/2026 09:22

Ticket resales are super common and fans resell tickets all the time.

But the figure of 17,000 is not in relation to a ticket resale. It is number of people who have withdrawn their name from the draw for the next round of ticket sales.

Out of 500 million.

The idea of 17,000 people cancelling/reselling tickets for the World Cup as some kind of stand against America, or in fear of travelling there, is nothing more than fantasy and wishful thinking.

The reality is very different. So why the dishonesty about the situation?

Some of you are really desperate for America to be as dangerous as it is in your own minds. But it’s not and for everyone else living there/visiting, it is business as usual.

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My apologies you'll be fine if you are apolitical, rich and not a 'foreigner' that is from one of the 17(?) countries listed for visa freezes! Particularly as you will be visiting a country famously hostile to football not f**king 'soccer'. Jeez, when is FIFA going to treat us to a world cup in a Liberal democracy!!

Gloriia · 17/01/2026 09:32

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Vivi0 · 17/01/2026 09:22

Ponoka7 · 17/01/2026 02:09

@Vivi0 FIFA call a resale a refund. There's lots of people who have bought tickets who now know that Trump won't rethink the Visa ban for sporting events, they are reselling via the FIFA platform. The World Cup should have been taken off the USA.
@CurlewKate your DD obviously felt the need to support Trump's economy, so leave her to it. She'll be fine.

Ticket resales are super common and fans resell tickets all the time.

But the figure of 17,000 is not in relation to a ticket resale. It is number of people who have withdrawn their name from the draw for the next round of ticket sales.

Out of 500 million.

The idea of 17,000 people cancelling/reselling tickets for the World Cup as some kind of stand against America, or in fear of travelling there, is nothing more than fantasy and wishful thinking.

The reality is very different. So why the dishonesty about the situation?

Some of you are really desperate for America to be as dangerous as it is in your own minds. But it’s not and for everyone else living there/visiting, it is business as usual.

EasternStandard · 17/01/2026 08:52

mathanxiety · 17/01/2026 05:54

Obviously nobody has a crystal ball.

I live in the US. I go about my business daily. I have a far greater chance of being injured in a traffic accident than any other disastrous event. So do you, thousands of miles from the US. Do you stay home all day every day, just in case, curled up in foetal position, or do you get behind the wheel and hope for the best?

The US is not the roiling hellhole some posters seem to believe it is.

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I’m sure. You make a good point.

Gloriia · 17/01/2026 08:17

EasternStandard · 16/01/2026 20:21

Why would those things impact her in NYC?

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The op maybe thinks Greenland is going to invade NYC and take the dc back to Greenland? Who knows.

As I say completely normal to worry about our kids, most parents do but to think that the US is any worse than this country with our home grown jihadis would seem almost xenophobic

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CurlewKate · 17/01/2026 06:16

Genuine question @andfinallyherewearedo you really have no idea?

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mathanxiety · 17/01/2026 05:54

HelenaWaiting · 17/01/2026 03:17

Until they don't. Has "it won't happen to me" ever, in human history, led to a positive outcome?

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Obviously nobody has a crystal ball.

I live in the US. I go about my business daily. I have a far greater chance of being injured in a traffic accident than any other disastrous event. So do you, thousands of miles from the US. Do you stay home all day every day, just in case, curled up in foetal position, or do you get behind the wheel and hope for the best?

The US is not the roiling hellhole some posters seem to believe it is.

HelenaWaiting · 17/01/2026 03:17

mathanxiety · 17/01/2026 03:00

Meanwhile, 350 million people go about their business every day.

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Until they don't. Has "it won't happen to me" ever, in human history, led to a positive outcome?

mathanxiety · 17/01/2026 03:00

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Meanwhile, 350 million people go about their business every day.

GameofPhones · 17/01/2026 03:00

I wouldn't go myself because Trump is unpredictable, is revelling in unbridled power, malicious, and believes no one will disobey his wildest commands (and they haven't, up to now).

KiwiCat01 · 17/01/2026 02:21

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I don’t think ICE are going to turning up to this random woman’s hotel room.

Recently in California. This post is massively an over reaction. Hope your daughter has a great trip!

HelenaWaiting · 17/01/2026 02:12

I don't think there's a safety issue. I do wonder what sort of person would legitimise Trump's vile regime by travelling there.

Ponoka7 · 17/01/2026 02:10

Sunshineandblueskysalltheway · 17/01/2026 01:49

'For me it would be the moral equivalent of going to 1930s Germany for a holiday.'

For me too. Obviously this thread has brought out the best of the blind, selfish and stupid.

Surely that description fits the person who has booked the holiday? Posters are just commenting. The OP's DD is white British, she has nothing to worry about.

Ponoka7 · 17/01/2026 02:09

@Vivi0 FIFA call a resale a refund. There's lots of people who have bought tickets who now know that Trump won't rethink the Visa ban for sporting events, they are reselling via the FIFA platform. The World Cup should have been taken off the USA.
@CurlewKate your DD obviously felt the need to support Trump's economy, so leave her to it. She'll be fine.

Sunshineandblueskysalltheway · 17/01/2026 01:49

'For me it would be the moral equivalent of going to 1930s Germany for a holiday.'

For me too. Obviously this thread has brought out the best of the blind, selfish and stupid.

andfinallyhereweare · 17/01/2026 01:03

Genuine question op @CurlewKate why would cashmere socks keep her safe? From what frost bite? 😂😂

PollyBell · 17/01/2026 00:45

Goldenbear · 16/01/2026 23:25

Nearly 17000 have asked for a refund..

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How? They are not refundable but nice try

Vivi0 · 17/01/2026 00:26

Goldenbear · 16/01/2026 23:25

Nearly 17000 have asked for a refund..

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Eh, no they haven’t!

World cup tickets are non refundable. You are not able to cancel the ticket once it has been purchased. FIFA has a strict policy regarding this.

The figure you quote is the number of people who have withdrawn their name from the draw for the next round of ticket sales.

To give some perspective - over 500 million people have applied for tickets.

People withdraw for all sorts of reason - financial, personal, in order to submit an updated application for tickets etc.

Stop with the hysteria.

ByCyanMoose · 16/01/2026 23:52

Dollyfloss · 16/01/2026 23:32

This.

It’s crazy.

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NYC is quite safe, for the simple reason that it’s a lot safer for 3000 of Trump’s paid thugs to make trouble in a city of 300 thousand then in a city of 12 million. So ICE has largely avoided it.

Morepositivemum · 16/01/2026 23:38

ExpectZeroContext
Kindly, you tell yourself this is about safety, when in truth it is about control, and your inability to tolerate a world you cannot police. Grow up.
what?!