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PandoraSocks · 16/01/2026 10:23

finally see the light about Farage? As the article says, if he will do this for £98 without thinking or a few seconds of research, what else is he capable of? The man is, IMHO, amoral, greedy and surprisingly stupid.

Tw: this mentions the hideous crimes of Watkins.

https://metro.co.uk/2026/01/15/i-tricked-nigel-farage-hailing-ian-watkins-tells-him-26308517/

Nigel Farage ‘tricked into paying tribute to Ian Watkins’

It cost £98 for The Reform UK leader to film the clip on his Cameo account

https://metro.co.uk/2026/01/15/i-tricked-nigel-farage-hailing-ian-watkins-tells-him-26308517/

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placemats · 19/01/2026 23:59

Clavinova · 19/01/2026 21:12

Farage brought us Brexit, the overall divorce bill of which is around 37.2 billion, we will be paying it off until 2065

The Brexit divorce bill is considerably less than our budget contributions would have been until 2065. Your argument as it is, is flawed.

Some figures here put the divorce bill nearer to £30 billion (after deducting £6.7 billion owed to us);
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-8822/

During the transition period in 2020, the UK was still a member of the single market, customs union and EU programmes, so we paid into the EU budget as if we were a member state (£8.9 billion net for 2020 - included in the divorce bill). If we had remained a member of the EU we would have paid that amount anyway and similar amounts (or more) for 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024 and 2025 (over £53 billion 2020 - 2025).

According to This is Money, October 2025, a bit less than £6 billion of the divorce bill remains to be paid, mostly covering pensions to 2065.

(NB We are making other payments to the EU, e.g. for membership of Horizon)

What happened to this money that was promised to the NHS. Infamous Brexit slogan on the bus.

"We send the EU £350 million a week – let's fund our NHS instead,"

Clavinova · 19/01/2026 21:12

Goldenbear · 18/01/2026 12:21

The world is laughing at the UK, I think their aghast at another country at the moment, why the heck would any sentient being look at the U.S. and want that over here in the form of Reform! Farage brought us Brexit, the overall divorce bill of which is around 37.2 billion, we will be paying it off until 2065 and for what reason so we could be our own little 'powerful' Island, in charge of our destiny! Who the heck looks at that divorce bill and thinks, 'I know what would be a great idea, voting for Farage to be the PM of our country (making me even bloody poorer!)!

Farage brought us Brexit, the overall divorce bill of which is around 37.2 billion, we will be paying it off until 2065

The Brexit divorce bill is considerably less than our budget contributions would have been until 2065. Your argument as it is, is flawed.

Some figures here put the divorce bill nearer to £30 billion (after deducting £6.7 billion owed to us);
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-8822/

During the transition period in 2020, the UK was still a member of the single market, customs union and EU programmes, so we paid into the EU budget as if we were a member state (£8.9 billion net for 2020 - included in the divorce bill). If we had remained a member of the EU we would have paid that amount anyway and similar amounts (or more) for 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024 and 2025 (over £53 billion 2020 - 2025).

According to This is Money, October 2025, a bit less than £6 billion of the divorce bill remains to be paid, mostly covering pensions to 2065.

(NB We are making other payments to the EU, e.g. for membership of Horizon)

beguilingeyes · 18/01/2026 17:43

He's such a great communicator he chickened out of appearing on the BBC this morning and sent his Mini-Me instead.

MandingoAteMyBaby · 18/01/2026 14:44

Farage represents the wishes of oligarch lobbyists. Not ordinary people.

Putting him in Clacton was taking the piss out of the people there as he does not care for them at all. He’s going to WEF in Davos - what the tits does that have to do with Clacton ?

The guy represents billionaires, appears to have taken Russian money, and is absolutely not working in the interests of the people of Clacton or even the UK as a whole.

Anyone voting for his party is voting against British interests.

cardibach · 18/01/2026 14:31

Hereforthecommentz · 18/01/2026 10:20

Tweeks!! You should be his press secretary. You could just look up yourself a quick Google search came up with several articles.

  1. The grooming gangs inquiry in June 2025
  2. Winter fuel payment cuts in June 2025
  3. Welfare cuts in June 2025
  4. Two-child benefit cap in November 2025
  5. Inheritance tax on farmers in December 2025
  6. Business rates for pubs in January 2026
  7. Digital ID in January 2026
And these are the pre-election promises that Starmer has broken too:
  1. Debt definition in October 2024
  2. Waspi Women in December 2024
  3. Transgender rights in April 2025
  4. Effective income tax hike in November 2025
  5. Employment Rights Bill concessions in December 2025

I am relieved at least on his u turn on digital ID. Perhaps he realised that would be the nail in the coffin. Stopping elections because they know they aren't going to win and arresting people for tweets is way worse but people have FDS. I dont particularly like Farrage, Zia is much better. The world is laughing at us. Andy Burnham would be a much better and sensible choice it you want any chance of not getting battered at the next election. People is glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

That’s 12. The only one you coukd maybe call a u turn is WFA because it was implemented and then changed. The others were things that the government said it would like to do but which were changed by discussion and feedback before implementation. That’s not U Turning. That’s how Parliament is supposed to work, otherwise we could send everybody but the cabinet home for 5 years. They are supposed to have input.
The grooming gang inquiry is particularly not a u turn. They said they didn’t th8nk there needed to be another but put an expert to look into it, saying they’d do what she said. She initially advised it probably wasn’t productive, then when she looked closer she uncovered things which made her think it was, so her advice changed. They followed it, as they said they would.
Taking advice and changing your mind about things is neither ‘u turning’ not wrong it’s actually pretty sensible.
I’m pretty sure there are no actual manifesto commitments that have been abandoned.

Goldenbear · 18/01/2026 12:21

Hereforthecommentz · 18/01/2026 10:20

Tweeks!! You should be his press secretary. You could just look up yourself a quick Google search came up with several articles.

  1. The grooming gangs inquiry in June 2025
  2. Winter fuel payment cuts in June 2025
  3. Welfare cuts in June 2025
  4. Two-child benefit cap in November 2025
  5. Inheritance tax on farmers in December 2025
  6. Business rates for pubs in January 2026
  7. Digital ID in January 2026
And these are the pre-election promises that Starmer has broken too:
  1. Debt definition in October 2024
  2. Waspi Women in December 2024
  3. Transgender rights in April 2025
  4. Effective income tax hike in November 2025
  5. Employment Rights Bill concessions in December 2025

I am relieved at least on his u turn on digital ID. Perhaps he realised that would be the nail in the coffin. Stopping elections because they know they aren't going to win and arresting people for tweets is way worse but people have FDS. I dont particularly like Farrage, Zia is much better. The world is laughing at us. Andy Burnham would be a much better and sensible choice it you want any chance of not getting battered at the next election. People is glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

The world is laughing at the UK, I think their aghast at another country at the moment, why the heck would any sentient being look at the U.S. and want that over here in the form of Reform! Farage brought us Brexit, the overall divorce bill of which is around 37.2 billion, we will be paying it off until 2065 and for what reason so we could be our own little 'powerful' Island, in charge of our destiny! Who the heck looks at that divorce bill and thinks, 'I know what would be a great idea, voting for Farage to be the PM of our country (making me even bloody poorer!)!

StMarie4me · 18/01/2026 10:37

JamesClyman · 16/01/2026 10:31

You may not like him. I don't. But his communications abilities dwarf those of the two "main" parties - altho' in Labour's case that is not a very high bar.

Hitler was a skilled orator. Therein lies the lesson.

Greenbather · 18/01/2026 10:35

I was looking forward to watching Farage on Laura Kunsberg this morning, but what a surprise, he bottled it. Would have liked to heard more of his views on Trump's latest actions but he got Tice to do his dirty work again.

BIossomtoes · 18/01/2026 10:23

No elections have been stopped. They’ve been postponed for a year to save taxpayers’ money.

Hereforthecommentz · 18/01/2026 10:20

cardibach · 16/01/2026 12:07

Could you list these u turns if you are going to use them to justify Farage’s lies (saying he knew the man) and stupidity (not checking the name) for a £98 payout? Because when I’ve seen them listed I wouldn’t class many of them as U turns, more tweaks to policy before it’s enacted.
Does Farage being so stupid and such a liar on such a matter give you any pause for thought at all?

Tweeks!! You should be his press secretary. You could just look up yourself a quick Google search came up with several articles.

  1. The grooming gangs inquiry in June 2025
  2. Winter fuel payment cuts in June 2025
  3. Welfare cuts in June 2025
  4. Two-child benefit cap in November 2025
  5. Inheritance tax on farmers in December 2025
  6. Business rates for pubs in January 2026
  7. Digital ID in January 2026
And these are the pre-election promises that Starmer has broken too:
  1. Debt definition in October 2024
  2. Waspi Women in December 2024
  3. Transgender rights in April 2025
  4. Effective income tax hike in November 2025
  5. Employment Rights Bill concessions in December 2025

I am relieved at least on his u turn on digital ID. Perhaps he realised that would be the nail in the coffin. Stopping elections because they know they aren't going to win and arresting people for tweets is way worse but people have FDS. I dont particularly like Farrage, Zia is much better. The world is laughing at us. Andy Burnham would be a much better and sensible choice it you want any chance of not getting battered at the next election. People is glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Father with 3 kids walking along the pavement, walking away from the camera. They are on a residential street in the UK

What is the two-child benefit cap and when will it be lifted?

Since 2017, some benefits have been limited when parents have a third child or more, so how does it work?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce3xrz3drk9o

placemats · 16/01/2026 22:06

Imagine for one moment supporting the paedophile/nonce for a mere 98 quid. Would you do that if they didn't sound or look English?

Goldenbear · 16/01/2026 21:43

Dgll · 16/01/2026 21:21

Stupidity, dishonesty and a dose of misogyny are quite major flaws. As mumsnetters would say: he is showing you who he is.

What's the misogyny about - if it's the chest enhancement isn't that sexism..he doesn't strike me as women hating at all.

Goldenbear · 16/01/2026 21:41

Dgll · 16/01/2026 21:21

Stupidity, dishonesty and a dose of misogyny are quite major flaws. As mumsnetters would say: he is showing you who he is.

Fair enough I can see you don't like him. I think I'd rather be ruled by him than Farage though.

scalt · 16/01/2026 21:27

FiatLuxAdAstra · 16/01/2026 20:35

Anyone can seem like a good communicator when they simply tell every group what they want to hear and makes all kinds of unrealistic promises.

He is the political equivalent of a con man.

Exactly. By this definition, Boris Johnson was the best communicator ever, with the added bonus of being a comedian.

And Blair was certainly not fit for high office: he very much used his position for his own ends. And he was a brilliant “communicator”, which I think made him doubly dangerous.

Dgll · 16/01/2026 21:21

Goldenbear · 16/01/2026 21:11

Oh yes but we are all flawed.

Stupidity, dishonesty and a dose of misogyny are quite major flaws. As mumsnetters would say: he is showing you who he is.

crazykatwoman · 16/01/2026 21:19

Eskarina1 · 16/01/2026 19:08

Does what's happening in America change your mind? Because what terrifies me is that no-one really believed Trump would do this and he has. Not even just the ICE stuff but the states seriously discussing the death penalty for abortion, people with close links the the leadership proposing one vote per household (the man).

Farage has explicitly said he doesn't agree with the current abortion limit, he's exploring said he wants an American model of health care where hundreds of thousands of people go bankrupt for medical bills each year, he's explicitly said he thinks Putin is admirable.

Normally I feel like you can survive the next 5 years of parliament and hope for better next time but I'm not sure the American people are going to get a next time.

I don’t know that it has changed my mind yet but yes, it does give me pause, much more so than Farage’s ridiculous antics. I would not have voted for Trump if I were American unless the Democrat candidate was far more left wing than Kamala was and I certainly don’t agree with most of his policies but I also think the more extreme like death penalty for abortion will never happen (could be wrong) and also that similar policies wouldn’t have popular support in the UK eg I don’t think people here have a strong view on other peoples abortions the way they do in parts of the US. I guess we see how the rest of Trumps term plays out. I feel Farage is also a very different character to Trump despite the apparent similarities and the demographics, mentalities and viewpoints of the majority in the UK are different to the US. Just my opinion but I’m nether British by birth nor American but have spent many years living and working in both countries. It’s also fine to want real, fast immigration reform without supporting ICE style raids and shootings and to want serious reform of the NHS without a full blow US style healthcare system. I do take on board the earlier comments up thread re comparisons to the rise of Nazism though and there is a risk the rhetoric takes hold and becomes normalised but both the left and the right are guilty of fanning those flames on different issues. I’m not Jewish but the rise of antisemitism in the UK is something I am very uncomfortable about and see as very much encouraged by Labour and parts of the mainstream media.

Goldenbear · 16/01/2026 21:11

Dgll · 16/01/2026 21:07

I think they are both charlatans. Polanski was in The Sun newspaper claiming he could make women's boobs expand through the power of his mind. He has since apologised but it is pretty low grade stuff. Most of us manage not to get stories like that published in The Sun. I can't respect him. And Farage is a nasty man. I can't respect him either.

Oh yes but we are all flawed.

Dgll · 16/01/2026 21:07

Goldenbear · 16/01/2026 20:56

Apologies, that was a severe response but I don't think they are equivalents. I am personally starting to think Polanski says some things that I agree with but i think that with the Labour party, Lib Dems.

I think they are both charlatans. Polanski was in The Sun newspaper claiming he could make women's boobs expand through the power of his mind. He has since apologised but it is pretty low grade stuff. Most of us manage not to get stories like that published in The Sun. I can't respect him. And Farage is a nasty man. I can't respect him either.

Goldenbear · 16/01/2026 20:56

Dgll · 16/01/2026 20:30

Fair enough. It depends who you are. Farage might be marginally better if you are white and like flags. Polanski might be marginally better if you are male and don't have to rely on the UK economy going well.

Apologies, that was a severe response but I don't think they are equivalents. I am personally starting to think Polanski says some things that I agree with but i think that with the Labour party, Lib Dems.

FiatLuxAdAstra · 16/01/2026 20:35

JamesClyman · 16/01/2026 10:31

You may not like him. I don't. But his communications abilities dwarf those of the two "main" parties - altho' in Labour's case that is not a very high bar.

Anyone can seem like a good communicator when they simply tell every group what they want to hear and makes all kinds of unrealistic promises.

He is the political equivalent of a con man.

PandoraSocks · 16/01/2026 20:32

pimplebum · 16/01/2026 20:15

What he said isn’t the issue as he was tricked into saying it . It’s not a genuine tribute

the cameo side gig is a bit surprising and mega tacky how long ago was it ?

no IF I was a reform voter I’d not be the slightest bit bothered about this I think it’s a non issue bit embarrassing at worst

The "Cameo gig" is not something he did in the past, it is something that he is currently doing.

www.cameo.com/nigelfarage?srsltid=AfmBOorpqrFiW0Nsn2BvvzSnlg_wCDgROgp4gqAclfhNtuxOxZk-hgvb

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Dgll · 16/01/2026 20:30

Goldenbear · 16/01/2026 19:49

No they aren't

Fair enough. It depends who you are. Farage might be marginally better if you are white and like flags. Polanski might be marginally better if you are male and don't have to rely on the UK economy going well.

PandoraSocks · 16/01/2026 20:23

pimplebum · 16/01/2026 20:15

What he said isn’t the issue as he was tricked into saying it . It’s not a genuine tribute

the cameo side gig is a bit surprising and mega tacky how long ago was it ?

no IF I was a reform voter I’d not be the slightest bit bothered about this I think it’s a non issue bit embarrassing at worst

We all know it wasn't a genuine tribute to the paedophile Watkins, fgs.

The point is his lack of due diligence for a measly £98 and his lies. If he can be bought that cheaply, we all need to be very worried at the prospect of him becoming PM.

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cardibach · 16/01/2026 20:20

pimplebum · 16/01/2026 20:15

What he said isn’t the issue as he was tricked into saying it . It’s not a genuine tribute

the cameo side gig is a bit surprising and mega tacky how long ago was it ?

no IF I was a reform voter I’d not be the slightest bit bothered about this I think it’s a non issue bit embarrassing at worst

The point 7s he lied - said he knew the man when he did it - and didn’t bother checking whether the name was a bit suspect. And all for £98. It casts huge doubt on his intelligence and honesty. Also makes him look like a grifter - if he’ll lie for £98 why if Russia bribe him by more? Like they did his mate Gill?

pimplebum · 16/01/2026 20:15

What he said isn’t the issue as he was tricked into saying it . It’s not a genuine tribute

the cameo side gig is a bit surprising and mega tacky how long ago was it ?

no IF I was a reform voter I’d not be the slightest bit bothered about this I think it’s a non issue bit embarrassing at worst