Mainstream media scared to talk about this 'new' trump scandal? Trigger Warning.

This has started coming up in my feed for some reason this wesk. I have not listened/watched it as one persons video came up giving a little info of what he said and I sincerely pray it isn’t true. I cannot get some of the thoughts out of my head now and felt like vomitting. The world cannot be like this, it’s too much for a normal person to comprehend

To a You Tube video of a conspiracy theorist.

Yeah, nah - tin foil is not my colour.

Ooh, please watch the next three and report back :)

I've listened to most of part one of the interview now. There is so much in there that is incredulous:

• Naming major Republican politicians, none of whom have come up in the Epstein documents or previous victim testimonies.
• These parties full of Republican politicians all being excited about a guy called Vladimir Putin. In the 1980s. When Putin was a KGB operative working in Germany and not a main political player yet.
• All three girls he said he was forced to film with are dead, two of them murdered at these parties. There has never been any insinuation that murders took place at Epstein parties before.
• Trump wanting to have sex with a boy. Offenders have patterns. Trump's pattern is known to be women and girls. Why would this pattern change?

And this is just part one of the interview.

He did incite the Capitol riots - hope that helps.

See I thought that because of the hastily shut down impeachment.

It’s all over social media in the US. Perhaps that’s just my algorithm but I doubt it as I don’t post or engage with anything political. Obviously mainstream news outlets are aware of all this but are treading very carefully.

I have no idea if it’s true or not but I can’t help thinking about the Carl Beech allegations and how convincing he was.

Even as someone strongly inclined to believe Katie Johnson's allegations against Trump, these allegations to not strike me as believable.

I wouldn't even be entirely surprised if they are a hoax that are intended to undermine the credibility of other accusations.

Might be true, might not. Too soon to tell.

I am absolutely sure Trump had some involvement with Epstein. Firstly because he’s done everything he can to delay/obstruct/distract from the release of the files, secondly because he was very likely to have been part of that social circle at the time, and thirdly because so much evidence suggests he’s a a perv and a predator by nature.

If these allegations have a shred of truth to then a credible media source will eventually publish the story - the Guardian or Channel Four would be all over it. Yes Trump loves to sue and threaten and has a history of shutting the media down in the US, but that wouldn’t stop the rest of the world. They would just be very careful to fact check everything first.

If it turns out not to be true then it’s just a distraction from his very many real crimes and I hope people will let it go.

At least it's a news outlet, with journalists. I've just scrolled through three pages of Google results and they are ALL social media posts repeating each other apart from the Hindustan Times, which faithfully reports every bit of online scandal with a tiny disclaimer underneath.

When the Virginia Guiffre scandal broke, actual real journalists put time and effort into investigating her and her claims. By way of a benchmark, they didn't do this over Pizzagate, except to explain about QAnon and how the frenzy spread.

There really are creepy sex abuse rings, for sure. It's true that victims' claims have historically been dismissed. However, journalists wouldn't ignore this story - it could be career-making. Reasonable to suppose they are looking into and have found nothing.

All of this is undeniably true, and yet there is still plenty of extremely critical coverage of him daily in mainstream media, Kimmel is still on the air. If any of them could verify this account, you can be sure, they wouldn't hold back.

Adding, that again, if Julie K Brown is skeptical, that's a warning bell for me.

Julie K Brown, who is the Miami journalist who essentially broke the entire Epstein story and is almost singlehandedly responsible for not letting it go away completely after the sweetheart deal he was given, has a substack post on this. She has spent untold hours with the Epstein survivors, listening to their stories, some on the record, some off.

She does believe something terrible happened to him, and she's not saying it's not true, but says she's seen no corroboration or verification as of now, so I'm taking it that she's skeptical.

No one despises the orange monster more than me, but I'd go slowly with this one.

Can't stand Trump and consider him to be extremely dangerous, but this is all far too vague and cryptic for me.

If you are wanting to make claims about Trump, then please be specific about what the allegations are, and link to some solid evidence or a credible source.

There is plenty of actual evidence already in the public domain which shows us all why we need to be very scared of Trump. It's far better for people to focus on that existing evidence rather than these half-baked conspiracy theories. They're just a distraction.

Considering Trump is basically on the verge of starting WWIII to avoid it ever actually coming out I damn well think what's in those files is very possibly as bad (or worse) as what has been alleged.

I’m hoping they’re all frantically investigating right now.

I've listened to the interview. You can't tell whether it's the truth or not. People certainly can't catagorically dismiss it. At this point in time, nothing would surprise me about trump and others like him. I guess we'll just have to wait until other information emerges. The latest crop of released photographs from epstein's island mansion show evidence of much younger victims than we've been led to believe.

I haven’t looked at it but if there was any truth to it, the media would be all over it. In general, they hate Trump and would do anything to print/broadcast terrible news…but the lawyers won’t them go near it unless it’s got credibility.

" the primary “data” in the public sphere right now is Riley’s own statements and users’ reactions to them...

The available, sourced material shows that Sascha Riley has publicly alleged trafficking and sexual abuse and has named Trump among others; social posts and calls for release of Epstein-era files indicate where supporters hope corroboration will come from. The sources supplied do not contain independently verified documentary evidence, law-enforcement confirmation, or public court filings that directly corroborate Riley’s claims against Trump specifically, so the claim remains an allegation in the public record rather than an established legal or journalistic fact based on the provided reporting :

Factually.

tl;dr
Riley's claims have not been independently verified with documentary evidence.

Look at all the negative press about Trump. The mainstream media has had nothing positive to say about him, ever, but particularly in recent weeks. He is openly being called a fascist sex offender. So why do you think they are scared to report something they believe to be true? If it was true, wouldn't they report it. Most countries would be delighted to finally have some that might bring him down. What you're saying just isn't logical

I should have been clearer. The name Riley does not appear in any of the documents published as yet, and as he said his father was named Riley and was a pilot for Epstein, you'd expect that name to come up. I'm guessing any publications checking this out will be looking for this.

No-one was asking you to write anything explicit. It just would have been helpful if your thread title and first post actually outlined what you wanted to discuss instead of being all dramatic and incomprehensible, and then when asked for clarification telling us to google. Or if when you shared the video you had said “ this is a video of…” instead of expecting us to watch a full hour and a half of god knows what to work it out.