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FIL pissed me of

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Shakeyshakeybaby · 15/01/2026 14:19

So totally expect to be told I'm unreasonable but hear me out. Myself and DH are married 25 years, three DC aged 17 , 16 and 14. We have only been away from our kids once since the oldest was born and that was for three nights. PIL minded the kids. They have never offered and apart from those three nights we never asked as we knew they wouldn't mind the kids , especially FIL.

So about three weeks ago my DH booked two nights away for me and him. It's a 40 minute flight. He asked MIL could she just stay the two nights in our house with the kids. She agreed. Kids get on well with MIL. Kids are good kids but just wanted an adult there with us being in a different country. All good so far.

The thing is one of our DDs plays soccer at a high level and she has just signed for a new team and has a match on Sunday. We thought all the paperwork might not be gone through on time so we would be ok to go away. Bear in mind that during the season we are unable to go away due to her football.

So DH asked FIL could he bring her. His response was " no I go to lidl on a Sunday morning". This was after DH had just done FIL a huge favour ( not the first time). He then had the neck to say" I will drop your mother around on Friday night, I heard you are ordering takeaway so I will stay for that and then head home"

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Scout2016 · 15/01/2026 17:29

It's two different issues really I think. Your FIL won't help you and your DH needs to stop doing favours for him if it being all one way pisses you off. You aren't being unreasonable reasonable there.
Your DD being unable to get to football is just the latest thing that he's not willing to do.

I have a similar age gap with my younger sister and at 17 I would definitely have helped out to get her to a football match. I'd have offered to go with her. She wouldn't have fancied going with the coach and a random other adult. That is, unless I was utterly sick of her football for some reason, like if it always dictated family weekends. So I don't think it's at all unreasonable of posters to suggest your 17 might help and I don't get why you are so cross about it.

Oneforallandallforone · 15/01/2026 17:29

Shakeyshakeybaby · 15/01/2026 17:24

Yes two nights, not days. No cooking, cleaning, just to sleep here. Children love their grandmother and looking forward to having her here. MIL is also looking forward to it, she sent DDs pictures of her new pyjamas and the treats she bought to watch movies. I would rather they spent time with their grandmother then running the streets , like some teens but then as I have said we don't live in the UK. Our kids don't leave school at 16 and leave home to go to university. Our kids don't get trains to school let alone taxis. Try get your head around families being different in different countries.

You really need to stop saying 'we' when referring to the whole of Ireland.
Yes kids in Ireland get trains to school. And they get taxis to school.
You must live in a bubble.

Bbnose · 15/01/2026 17:28

By any chance do you keep your house sparkling clean @Shakeyshakeybaby and had a very very big wedding?

StasisMom · 15/01/2026 17:27

Shakeyshakeybaby · 15/01/2026 14:58

He didn't say anything. You can't talk to FIL unfortunately for reasons I won't get into here. We don't know any parents yet and if we did it would mean them driving considerably out of their way to pick DD up. No friend I could ask.

Sorry, am only a third through the thread and it may have been mentioned but could she maybe get a taxi to one of her new teammates' houses and then get a lift from there? I know she doesn't know them yet, but she soon will and will need to. My weekends revolve around my DS's sport so I do get that it is important. Or, I would just risk the BIL.

Bbnose · 15/01/2026 17:26

i would rather they spent time with their grandmother then running the streets ,

so in your world it’s spend time with granny or run riot on the streets?

Bbnose · 15/01/2026 17:25

Guessing your two eldest don’t get on

Otherwise most 17 yrs olds would be fine sitting in clubhouse for a couple of hours whilst their sibling plays their first match for a new team

Shakeyshakeybaby · 15/01/2026 17:24

Yes two nights, not days. No cooking, cleaning, just to sleep here. Children love their grandmother and looking forward to having her here. MIL is also looking forward to it, she sent DDs pictures of her new pyjamas and the treats she bought to watch movies. I would rather they spent time with their grandmother then running the streets , like some teens but then as I have said we don't live in the UK. Our kids don't leave school at 16 and leave home to go to university. Our kids don't get trains to school let alone taxis. Try get your head around families being different in different countries.

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notatinydancer · 15/01/2026 17:23

Shakeyshakeybaby · 15/01/2026 15:00

I would not expect her to do that.

Why ?

Bbnose · 15/01/2026 17:20

Oneforallandallforone · 15/01/2026 17:18

Where did you get watch from? Did you miss the part where the grandparents live THREE mins away and the OP has asked the grandmother to STAY TWO NIGHTS with three teens?

Its controlling and its ridiculous.

And the poor woman is pretty immobile herself as she’s recovering from an operation

TheNoisyGreyLion · 15/01/2026 17:19

Next time fil asks for a favour say no you’re going to Lidl.

Oneforallandallforone · 15/01/2026 17:18

allthingsinmoderation · 15/01/2026 17:15

I dont think asking a grandparent to "watch" teens whist their parent have 2 nights away when they've never done so in 17 years is unreasonable or not understandable tbh.
That the grandparent wouldnt want to, is not understandable unless they are ill or infirm.
That a grand parent would rather go to Lidl than spend time with their grand child is really sad for everyone concerned.
Imagine the teens thinking my grandad would rather go to lidl than spend time with me......
I also worry about the next time the Grandfather need help....

Where did you get watch from? Did you miss the part where the grandparents live THREE mins away and the OP has asked the grandmother to STAY TWO NIGHTS with three teens?

Its controlling and its ridiculous.

CurlewKate · 15/01/2026 17:18

Shakeyshakeybaby · 15/01/2026 15:00

I would not expect her to do that.

Why not?

Shakeyshakeybaby · 15/01/2026 17:17

MrsJeanLuc · 15/01/2026 17:13

@Shakeyshakeybaby
I wouldn't expect my 17 year old to stand in the cold for two hours. Where we live nobody would ever put their 16 year old in a taxi to attend a football match. BIL would do it but yes he is unreliable and I couldn't risk him not turning up.

You really do have a problem with control don't you?
I agree with other pps that you are babying your teenagers. This is rightfully your 16yo's issue to solve:

  • maybe she could bribe her sister to take on the (ackowledgely unpleasant) task of taking her to the match; or offer to do something for her at a later date
  • maybe she could get on her big girl pants and brave the taxi ride on her own (tbh it is a bit pathetic that she wants to drag her sister out for the entire afternoon just because she's nervous about going in a taxi on her own)
  • maybe she could talk to her uncle (I mean the "unreliable BIL") directly and beg him to help her - and make her own assessment as to whether he will step up or let her down
  • maybe she could talk to he coach about it (rather than you)
And there are probably other options as well.

The point is that you are massively failing to teach your children to stand on their own 2 feet and to resolve issues when things go unexpectedly wrong. These are important life skills they need to learn so that they will be able to cope when they go away to university (or work) in only a couple of years' time.

Maybe you should learn how to read because your the points you are making are wrong.

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allthingsinmoderation · 15/01/2026 17:15

hyco · 15/01/2026 16:46

You booked a holiday and forced your MIL into watching the kids when you knew they both would rather not- having said they never offer and you've only asked them once before.
It's not like it's an emergency or health related thing. You're twisting their arm into it. I'd do as your FIL did tbh and tell you to sod off too

I dont think asking a grandparent to "watch" teens whist their parent have 2 nights away when they've never done so in 17 years is unreasonable or not understandable tbh.
That the grandparent wouldnt want to, is not understandable unless they are ill or infirm.
That a grand parent would rather go to Lidl than spend time with their grand child is really sad for everyone concerned.
Imagine the teens thinking my grandad would rather go to lidl than spend time with me......
I also worry about the next time the Grandfather need help....

MrsJeanLuc · 15/01/2026 17:13

@Shakeyshakeybaby
I wouldn't expect my 17 year old to stand in the cold for two hours. Where we live nobody would ever put their 16 year old in a taxi to attend a football match. BIL would do it but yes he is unreliable and I couldn't risk him not turning up.

You really do have a problem with control don't you?
I agree with other pps that you are babying your teenagers. This is rightfully your 16yo's issue to solve:

  • maybe she could bribe her sister to take on the (ackowledgely unpleasant) task of taking her to the match; or offer to do something for her at a later date
  • maybe she could get on her big girl pants and brave the taxi ride on her own (tbh it is a bit pathetic that she wants to drag her sister out for the entire afternoon just because she's nervous about going in a taxi on her own)
  • maybe she could talk to her uncle (I mean the "unreliable BIL") directly and beg him to help her - and make her own assessment as to whether he will step up or let her down
  • maybe she could talk to he coach about it (rather than you)
And there are probably other options as well.

The point is that you are massively failing to teach your children to stand on their own 2 feet and to resolve issues when things go unexpectedly wrong. These are important life skills they need to learn so that they will be able to cope when they go away to university (or work) in only a couple of years' time.

Tink3rbell30 · 15/01/2026 17:11

After reading your replies the only options are you cancel your trip and take DD or she doesn't go.

PickledElectricity · 15/01/2026 17:11

Shakeyshakeybaby · 15/01/2026 14:55

There is no direct public transport to the club she is playing against so that's not an option. I know in the UK it's common for children to use trains etc to get to school but we don't have that type of transport system where we live. My friend in the UK thinks a two hour journey to work is normal.

She was scouted by the club and has been called up to play for our country in two upcoming friendlies abroad. She has played since she's 8 and we have never missed one match or training session unless of course DD has been injured or unwell.

If she was scouted you could ask the coach or whoever is in charge if they could give her a lift?

Sam9769 · 15/01/2026 17:10

Arn't your three children old enough to look after themselves?

Henhipster · 15/01/2026 17:09

Do you have a friend who would step to take her as a one off?

Oneforallandallforone · 15/01/2026 17:07

Shakeyshakeybaby · 15/01/2026 16:58

She's not an adult though so yes she is a child.

She's probably in 5th or 6th year. Kids her age have part-time jobs, look after elderly relatives, and act like responsible human beings.
You are delighted when people agree with you about how 'impossible' things are. Thats exactly the attitude your FIL has. Well done on rearing kids in a similar fashion.

DaisyChain505 · 15/01/2026 17:03

Shakeyshakeybaby · 15/01/2026 15:58

We had nobody to mind them.

Theyre teens now. You could have built an excellent relationship with a babysitter over the years and now they’re at the age where you could safely leave them overnight alone in the house together.

Strangerthanfictions · 15/01/2026 17:03

Tell the team it's too short notice for you to make arrangements for this game as you have other plans already in place. Unless they can help somehow with a lift she will not be starting this week but will start from the next game

ScholesPanda · 15/01/2026 17:03

I voted YABU.

Not because I think your FIL is reasonable, he sounds like an ass hat. But because you knew he wasn't going to do it, yet you've decided to be completely reliant on him.

MiL has dodgy leg and can't drive
Taxis, trains and buses aren't the done thing where you are
You have no friends
Daughter has no friends
Sister can't do it because reasons
Brother is as reliable as a chocolate fireguard

So your answer to all this is 'I'll rely on someone who has already made it clear they will not do this sort of thing.' I find that unreasonable.

CosyJanuary · 15/01/2026 17:00

GasPanic · 15/01/2026 16:55

I think making the assumption all men like watching football matches is similar to making the assumption all women hate watching football matches.

And even if you like football, there is some difference between standing out in the freezing wind/rain/snow/mud for 90 minutes watching lower skilled people kick a football about from a sub optimal viewpoint and sitting down in a warm pub with a nice pint of beer watching decent quality football being played on TV.

This is of course without the 50km drive tagged on.

It’s got nothing whatsoever to do with the fil being a man.

I’m a woman and I couldn’t care less about watching football, but I like watching my children play.

Lots of grandparents go to some of the football matches to support the children.

Shakeyshakeybaby · 15/01/2026 16:58

liamharha · 15/01/2026 16:51

Op she's not a child I think that's what ppl are getting at tbh .

She's not an adult though so yes she is a child.

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