How much would it cost to renovate this derelict house?

or get sheep and follow the knitting thread on mumsnet 😁

Even without the renovation costs, it would be a hell of a hit to your finances just to pay the utility and ordinary maintenance bills on a house and grounds of that size.

Fencing, tree felling, drainage would all mount up.

I'm sure there's a more reasonable project out there for you @Rounters but you'd need deep pockets for this one.

This.
We're 100k into renovating a French wreck, doing as much as possible ourselves, and have barely scratched the surface.

Not just the house but all the outbuildings and those paddocks and fences .
That's a lot to restore .

Wonder who the horses belong to ? Is it being rented ( fields) or is the owner keeping them there ?

And as it is SSTC what was the final price ?

<Nothing to add on estimates , just being nosey>

This looks like it needs demolition rather than restoration. Hideous.

Nothing more to add on the costs, I think everyone is right, but thank you to the poster who suggested Hastings. I’ve just had a very enjoyable 20 mins on rightmove, some fantastic properties on the market!

Repairs/replacement of sash windows and a new front door could cost you £50-70k.

We’ve just done a similar house - slightly bigger on the basis of the floor plan. We’ve spent £600k but we’ve done it to a high spec. You could do it for £500k. We haven’t touched the outbuildings yet. If you’re looking to buy land (9 acres is a lot, we have 3 and it’s a pain) you will need a small tractor - a ride on likely won’t be sufficient and you’ll spend 1 day every 2 weeks maintaining it in summer 🥴

Also why don’t you look in Hastings, you’ll find houses of a similar typology/size for more like 650-700k, that would at least leave you with some additional renovation cash.

Um, it’s a tricky time to buy a renovation, with UK property market wobbling about, I would be anxious to take on something that with the addition of renovation works could fall into negative equity. Are you cash buyers? You don’t mention?

We bought a listed house and we found it really useful to have the survey done by a company specialising in historic buildings. This can save money mainly as they have a better understanding of how to resolve damp issues in old buildings with solid walls without spending a fortune getting modern damp courses which can actually damage the building further as well as being expensive.

It is gorgeous op. I can see why you would really want to make it work.

I love that red and cream unit in the kitchen. Probably full of rot and woodworm but I love it all the same

We renovated a huge listed house many years ago, too many years ago for the cost to be relevant but omg it was a faff. Worst thing, the windows. If you don't have huge amounts of money avoid anything listed.

We did similar OP- not with this amount of land but completely renovated a similar house. We thought we could do it for £300k - it cost more than double that, and that didn’t include the garden (which is still to be done!) I guess we might have been able to save if we’d had the skills to do some of it ourselves. That final total wasn’t a ‘let’s go all out’ budget either- even at that amount we still had to be really careful about each individual spend on interiors etc. It was very stressful! That house and location you’ve linked is amazing!

What did you spend on gutting and renovating the 3 bed @Rounters ? Did you do a lot of the work yourself and the remaining on mates rates?

Oh God, at least £500k as a minimum and probably more like £1m. We've been renovating a Victorian wreck for the past decade and I cannot tell how much materials have gone up in price in the last five years.

As an aside
On grade 2 internals a walk around with the conservation officer gets you out of making LBC applications when it’s not needed

Just in our current property We are grade 2 star with internals included but after the walk around our applications halved
( they do try it on sometimes though so you need to know what they can and can’t impose )

( Eg One told us we couldn’t paint original already painted doors. No. We can paint them we just can’t strip the historical layers.
They also ‘wanted’ all new pipe work hidden but that meant lifting and damaging historical material. So No, we didn’t spec or do that ).

I’ve had this with some, but not all, conservation officers in different areas ( working as an Architect in this area )

So it’s always good to get advice from an experienced Architect in historical buildings or Historic building surveyor.

But yes agree specialist drawings are required for certain things eg timber/ brick/stone etc repair. Yes they are expensive

At least 3x what you have estimated. My BIL and his partner are renovating a similar property on Yorkshire and it's been an absolute money pit. Everything in profit from their previous sale (circa 500k) has gone into it. They are 5 years in and it's still nowhere near finished.

The grade 2 listing status will mean listed building consent for almost everything, which will incur considerable extra costs as well for items such as specialist reports/ technical drawings etc.

What’s the difference in size between the two properties?

Not being listed makes a HUGE difference to cost (and freedom)

We've two architects in the family. The cost of materials alone have trebled since COVID. So often once the client has been advised of costs they bail on home improvements.

How did you come up with this estimate @Rounters ?

I’m in the SEast ( Kent) and £3500/m2 would equate to a complete barn conversion with no services and listed status

This property wouldn’t be as expensive here

Lots of guessing on here
put together a realistic scope of works get an independent quantity surveyor to look over it and bear in mind it is listed
be realistic I run a small firm refurbing houses and listed houses and barns
been doing it for years and my £3500 per sq m won’t be far out to go through it properly