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Do people really not know what to eat?

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WilderHawthorn · 14/01/2026 15:16

Watching ‘what not to eat’, and the family they’ve found are just hopeless. Four small children all shovelled full of UPF junk, parents both obese, freely admit to eating crap constantly.

How adults choose to feed themselves is their choice, but to feed four small kids that much junk? It’s bordering on abuse. An apple/banana costs the same as a packet of crisps, jacket potato is one of the cheapest meals you can make, basic porridge oats and milk for breakfast, it’s not difficult to eat whole foods, so why rely on packaged things?

Freely admit I judge those who feed their children this way and truly despair over childhood obesity stats. I work full time, have 4 DC, DH works full time and I volunteer. I’m very time poor and partially disabled, I still feed my kids well and it doesn’t cost me a fortune. Taught myself to cook. There’s no excuse!

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MumWifeOther · 14/01/2026 21:39

luckylavender · 14/01/2026 15:23

Using the word ‘cheat’ to describe food is not good. There is no such thing as bad food.

Come on now, yes there is! There are lots of “bad” foods that people could simply just choose not to buy!

Xeracc · 14/01/2026 21:38

I never got the ignorance argument I know a mother who feeds her obese toddler family size bags of sweets and chocolate.
I had my first child at 16 and always fed him healthy and knew too, surely it’s just common knowledge and no I did not have my mum cooking everything I didn’t even live with her.

How do some people feed their kids huge bags of chocolate and claim not to know why their kid is fat?

Tangit · 14/01/2026 21:36

Crushed23 · 14/01/2026 15:31

Actually a banana or apple costs far less than a bag of crisps or a chocolate bar.

There’s no excuse for feeding children junk.

I disagree. 6 Pink Lady apples in Aldi costs about £2.50 whereas a multi-pack of 6 crisps is about half that price.

I got a chicken salad sandwich from Greggs and it was approx £3 but I could've got 4 sausage rolls for £2.

Bedtelly · 14/01/2026 21:27

Bepo77 · 14/01/2026 21:22

Haha well that's sounds delicious! Ours really vary, tonight it was chicken and cheese orzo, often it's risotto or spaghetti bolognese...I also do a soup once a fortnight! Occasionally we also get a curry which the kids love!

Yeah I did a chilli last night. Mostly stews, chillis, soups, stir fries, lasagne, cottage pie etc. Pretty boring but always have veg with meals although a lot of the time that is frozen veg.

That is basically what I was brought up on though so I can totally see how you just fall into what you know.

GalaxyJam · 14/01/2026 21:25

DontKillSteve · 14/01/2026 21:23

This thread is horrible. The people in the show were a lovely family. Just knackered from working minimum wage shift work and caring for 4 young children. The children were not remotely overweight. The parents were suitably horrified by what they learnt and turned their lifestyle around in a few weeks. The kids were lovely, well parented and embraced their new healthier foods.
In the UK we have a situation where lots of people are on the poverty line, needing 2 wages to survive. We’re both poor and time poor. Our Supermarkets are full of UPF with ready meals and snacks. You don’t find this in Spanish supermarkets, for example. But their working lives are easier, fruit is plentiful and cheaper in sunny climes etc.

I haven’t seen the programme but this thread does feel unnecessarily nasty. The fact that they were on the programme shows that they were willing to make the changes.
People only know what they know, and can only do what they can do.

DontKillSteve · 14/01/2026 21:23

This thread is horrible. The people in the show were a lovely family. Just knackered from working minimum wage shift work and caring for 4 young children. The children were not remotely overweight. The parents were suitably horrified by what they learnt and turned their lifestyle around in a few weeks. The kids were lovely, well parented and embraced their new healthier foods.
In the UK we have a situation where lots of people are on the poverty line, needing 2 wages to survive. We’re both poor and time poor. Our Supermarkets are full of UPF with ready meals and snacks. You don’t find this in Spanish supermarkets, for example. But their working lives are easier, fruit is plentiful and cheaper in sunny climes etc.

Rubyupbeat · 14/01/2026 21:22

I worked in the nursery of a school in a really rough area and would sit with the children once they went into reception to teach them how to use cutlery, as most lived on McDonald's and other crap at home. Most did not have tables to sit at.
It's not lack of money, but something that went terribly wrong somewhere in producing home cooked meals. I grew up in a poor area, but we all had homecooked meals, sitting at the table and had to all wait for the last one to finish before we got down.
We had 3 meals a day and nothing in between, now they graze on snacks etc. There are even parent classes to teach parents how to cook.
It's very sad.

Bepo77 · 14/01/2026 21:22

Bedtelly · 14/01/2026 21:20

I'd be scared to! I made a chicken, veg and lentil soup tonight from scratch but I'll admit I did use a couple of stock cubes so I guess that's not so good 😂

Haha well that's sounds delicious! Ours really vary, tonight it was chicken and cheese orzo, often it's risotto or spaghetti bolognese...I also do a soup once a fortnight! Occasionally we also get a curry which the kids love!

Bedtelly · 14/01/2026 21:20

Bepo77 · 14/01/2026 21:18

I have no idea whether the meals I cook would be considered good or bad on this thread...can you guys give examples of what you think are healthy meals cooked from scratch?

I'd be scared to! I made a chicken, veg and lentil soup tonight from scratch but I'll admit I did use a couple of stock cubes so I guess that's not so good 😂

Bepo77 · 14/01/2026 21:18

I have no idea whether the meals I cook would be considered good or bad on this thread...can you guys give examples of what you think are healthy meals cooked from scratch?

Bedtelly · 14/01/2026 21:18

sprigatito · 14/01/2026 21:14

I agree about the TV shows, there’s something of the Colosseum about them. It’s very uncomfortable viewing. Supernanny was exploitative in the same way, along with that terrible programme where Kris Murrin told parents they were literally killing their children, complete with age-progression photos of the kids looking like they’d done a life sentence with hard labour.

Omg I forgot about that one were they aged the kids! Terrible

sprigatito · 14/01/2026 21:14

StroppyLabWontMove · 14/01/2026 20:55

I don't think every overweight family don't know how to cook and live on upf nor every slim family is healthy and cooks from scratch. I thought the show and presenter were quite patronising. I don't understand why people get quite deep into a problem like hoarding, cleaning, weighr, or illness then go to a show like trust me im a doctor or whatever, it's like they want to be publically humiliated. The sad thing it doesn't even work out for them longterm, but thr channel and presenter made their money out of mocking their 'stupid' life like, haha look at them, dear watcher you will never be stupid as they are, and the watcher feels smug because they aren't as bad. The whole thing is revolting.

I agree about the TV shows, there’s something of the Colosseum about them. It’s very uncomfortable viewing. Supernanny was exploitative in the same way, along with that terrible programme where Kris Murrin told parents they were literally killing their children, complete with age-progression photos of the kids looking like they’d done a life sentence with hard labour.

Oooonoooeee · 14/01/2026 21:10

fishingoutofthewater · 14/01/2026 19:28

I think your privilege is showing. Please do better and show compassion instead.

I (42, single mum, middle class, privately educating my two children, £500 a month food budget) grew up the only child of an anorexic mother and obese father. I have a degree, I've read countless nutrition books yet to this day, I still struggle with preparing meals from scratch. I work really hard at it but it does not come naturally and when things are mentally tough, I find it impossible.

Some people are brilliant at maths, other people are skilled elsewhere. My mental arithmetic skills are off the charts and I can design a database without thinking but food just does not click. We have gousto five nights a week and I'm so grateful that school dinners are mandatory.

Also, having worked with families in some of the highest poverty and teenage pregnancy rates in Europe, there are a lot of people who do not have access to education and the ability to apply basic skills. There are genuinely people in this country who have no idea that you can't put coca cola in a baby's bottle because that knowledge has never been shared with them. At least that family are trying to do better which in my opinion, makes them better people than you.

Finally, read Nickel and Dimed: On (Not) Getting By in America by Barbara Ehrenreich. It applies here too.

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Agree @fishingoutofthewater . Think OP needs to sort out her judgemental thoughts!

Hellohelga · 14/01/2026 21:10

AllThingsAreGods · 14/01/2026 15:47

I think everyone knows that an apple is healthier than crisps etc. What varies is what people see as a normal amount of concern for health.

If you grew up with crisps and everyone around you eats crisps, the idea that you ought not to do it probably seems unreasonable- I imagine you see the apple-eaters in the same way I see instagram influencers who eat nothing but wheatgrass and egg white omelettes. Add to that the fact that manufacturers go to the absolute limit of what’s legal to present their foods as normal healthy choices.

What we should all be focusing on is a) shifting the norm away from upf and b) regulating advertising and marketing.

It’s not as simple as saying people eat the way they grew up. There didn’t used to be processed food and takeaways available when I grew up (70s-early 80s). DH and I reminisce about when yoghurt became a thing. Then came Findus crispy pancakes. But it was rare and most people couldn’t afford much processed food and no way takeaways. Affordable junk is a relatively recent phenomenon. Some people carried on eating as before - home cooked dinners and the odd takeaway - and others ditched it for convenience and stopped cooking. No one in their 50s grew up on processed food.

OwlBeThere · 14/01/2026 20:58

WilderHawthorn · 14/01/2026 15:16

Watching ‘what not to eat’, and the family they’ve found are just hopeless. Four small children all shovelled full of UPF junk, parents both obese, freely admit to eating crap constantly.

How adults choose to feed themselves is their choice, but to feed four small kids that much junk? It’s bordering on abuse. An apple/banana costs the same as a packet of crisps, jacket potato is one of the cheapest meals you can make, basic porridge oats and milk for breakfast, it’s not difficult to eat whole foods, so why rely on packaged things?

Freely admit I judge those who feed their children this way and truly despair over childhood obesity stats. I work full time, have 4 DC, DH works full time and I volunteer. I’m very time poor and partially disabled, I still feed my kids well and it doesn’t cost me a fortune. Taught myself to cook. There’s no excuse!

The link between obesity and poverty is well known.
You manage because you manage. Other people fail to manage for many other reasons.

StroppyLabWontMove · 14/01/2026 20:55

I don't think every overweight family don't know how to cook and live on upf nor every slim family is healthy and cooks from scratch. I thought the show and presenter were quite patronising. I don't understand why people get quite deep into a problem like hoarding, cleaning, weighr, or illness then go to a show like trust me im a doctor or whatever, it's like they want to be publically humiliated. The sad thing it doesn't even work out for them longterm, but thr channel and presenter made their money out of mocking their 'stupid' life like, haha look at them, dear watcher you will never be stupid as they are, and the watcher feels smug because they aren't as bad. The whole thing is revolting.

fishingoutofthewater · 14/01/2026 20:53

SchnizelVonKrumm · 14/01/2026 20:36

There are all sorts of reasons why people eat poor diets, bit I find the "an apple is more expensive than a packet of crisps" arguments really silly as that's not the sort of choice anyone is making.

People aren't standing in the fruit and veg aisle going, "oooh, not sure we can stretch to both apples and bananas this week - better put both back and get some wotsits instead. And while we're at it let's put those porridge oats back and get some pot noodles".

For many (disclaimer - many, not all) of these people the affordability point will be a red herring because they haven't even thought about whether they can afford the healthy option - they want the crisps so that's the aisle they visit and that's what goes in the trolley.

It's not always about the food costs. Sometimes it's about having access to the means to prepare it.

SouthernNights59 · 14/01/2026 20:49

Cheeeesedoff · 14/01/2026 17:23

Have you been to McDonald's?

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Oh don't be so puritanical! There is nothing wrong with eating at McDonalds every now and again, and I find their food perfectly acceptable.

Migrainedays · 14/01/2026 20:49

I eat what i want when i want.
I cant stand the word cheat days.

Gowlett · 14/01/2026 20:42

I don’t think people who eat like this are in a minority.
All of my in-laws do a big supermarket shop every week.
There’s no fruit & veg. Most of it comes from the freezer.
They are all overweight, including the kids. That’s just what they eat. None of my SIL can actually cook. It’s not uncommon.

Bedtelly · 14/01/2026 20:40

I remember when we lived in a shared house at Uni and my friend started seeing a lad. We were cooking one night and he just couldn't get his around what we were doing. Chopping onions, boiling potatoes etc. He had never seen it, he thought that was for chefs to do, he only ever ate something out the freezer with chips. Never had fruit in the house, it just wasn't the norm.

I know people will say but we have so much more info now about food but I grew up in a house that always had fruits and veg and home cooked meals but I see some of these food messages online and think what the fuck are you in about. It's so confusing so without the background knowledge I can see why people may struggle.

That lad by the way never had any type of weight problem, he actually married my friend and eats very well now as she is an amazing cook and he has picked that skill up as well. But I think the problem with obesity now actually has a lot to do with availability of takeaways. Chicken nuggets, chips and beans may not have much nutritional value but it won't really make you fat. Constant takeaways have so many calories though.

SchnizelVonKrumm · 14/01/2026 20:36

There are all sorts of reasons why people eat poor diets, bit I find the "an apple is more expensive than a packet of crisps" arguments really silly as that's not the sort of choice anyone is making.

People aren't standing in the fruit and veg aisle going, "oooh, not sure we can stretch to both apples and bananas this week - better put both back and get some wotsits instead. And while we're at it let's put those porridge oats back and get some pot noodles".

For many (disclaimer - many, not all) of these people the affordability point will be a red herring because they haven't even thought about whether they can afford the healthy option - they want the crisps so that's the aisle they visit and that's what goes in the trolley.

Farticus101 · 14/01/2026 20:31

Lavender14 · 14/01/2026 17:00

Kindly op you're speaking from immense privilege in the wider sense of the word.

Not everyone does know that certain foods have different health benefits and the details of this. Then you add in poverty and that a lot of low-nutrient food is marketed and priced towards lower income families never mind vulnerable parents with learning difficulties who don't get the support available to those with learning disabilities or those who are working through generational trauma and who were neglected themselves as children and who didn't grow up with the positive example/ access to information others had. You also have kids with restrictive diets and sensory needs around food. There's also a massive link between diet and mental wellbeing, if you're exhausted and low in resilience you're more likely to crave food high in sugar to release energy and dopamine. Most healthy foods release sugar in a more sustained and slower way so doesn't meet that 'need'. That's particularly difficult for those who have experienced trauma and have ptsd. Not everyone does have access to public health messaging when you add in language barriers. Domestic abuse victims also often see food weaponised in their homes as a way to control and undermine parenting.

It's very, very complex and it can't be reduced to simply laziness. Most people care deeply about their children and do 'their best' with what's available to them at the time.

Thank you for the empathetic response. Totally agree with this. You never know what is going on in someone's life.

Salome61 · 14/01/2026 20:29

@Zet1 unfortunately he got into drugs at 15 and he didn’t learn to cook, he was in and out of our house then went to college at 16 and lived in halls. He met his girlfriend at college and moved in with her when they left, he was 18. His late Dad did try to teach him to cook but he wasn’t interested, my son was 22 when his Dad died. He stopped the drugs and cigarettes about four years ago, he is now 32, but still vapes. He does make spag bol and chili from scratch, his girlfriend has no interest in cooking. I do worry about him.

beingtakenforafool · 14/01/2026 20:24

how about people worry about what they feed their families and let others worry about theirs, the snobbery on here is rife. woopy doo your kids eat well and you cook all wholesome food , you don’t know anyone elses story so why judge
my oldest has an awful diet as a child , we visited drs, nutritionists the lot due to his avoidance of food and fussiness ,so many judged us with what he ate.
but that being said he is now a strapping 6ft odd young man , never been overweight , healthy , but still has a restrictive diet. a banana is also not same cost as a cheap bag of crisps ,