To believe there will be no justice fo Renee Good under the Trump administration

I read today that training for ICE agents has been reduced to 47 days. It was initially 20 weeks, then reduced to 8 weeks before being reduced again.

Why 47 days? As a nod to, and sign of respect for, the 47th president.

I wish I was making this up.

Agree.

And part of the reason this works even on those who are not Trump followers is the belief that 'it was her fault' (she was a domestic terrorist/bad mother/wouldn't follow orders) therefore 'it won't happen to me'.

So people can distance themselves from the situation and don't have to be outraged/protest/fearful because, see, they themselves are not at risk.

'If only she hadn't... she wouldn't have died' 'I would never do... therefore I'm safe'. It's a nice (fake) cosy bubble they have created for themselves.

How can it be normal for someone going about their daily business, having committed no crime whatsoever, to be shot dead in the street by someone who is not even a properly trained police officer but who has been given indiscriminate powers by a president who thinks anyone who is not with him deserves to die?

He’s not a police officer. He’s an immigration agent.

Watch the YouTube video by Nate the Lawyer...he reviews the case as a court would. He finds him not guilty under Us law. The precedents were set many years before Trump.

My personal view is she was bloody stupid and thought she could get away with disobeying a federal officer and driving towards the shooter. Only problem was he'd been hit by a car before and had drawn his weapon well in advance....he was more than ready to shoot. But the US, given the amount of gun crime, doesn't punish police officers for being ready to defend themselves. In the UK he's guilty all day long.

Mentioning the Nurenberg trials finally got me blocked by my one MAGA friend. <shrug>

The boiling frog led to totalitarianism quite quickly. I don't think many really noticed it happening since most of the outrageous stuff didn't or doesn't affect them personally.

Just over a year ago a Costa Rican man was detained illegally entering the USA. He was repatriated 12 months later in a persistent vegetative state.

No, there'll be no justice. Not until the equivalent of the Nuremberg trials.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/11/ice-death-costa-rica-randall-gamboa-esquivel

Agreed. Apparently the punishment for a US citizen ignoring an immigration agent is immediate execution. Cool, cool.

None. The rule of law, in this case, many others, and shooting men in the water as well is being circumvented.

The comparisons to Germany 1930s are startling.

There will be no justice. Also a worrying amount of people think what happened is fine.

There will be no justice, but there wouldn’t be any for her under any administration. There never is.

Congress declared that the Epstein files were to be released by 19 December. Three weeks ago. What happens when the FBI says no, under the order of the president? The FBI was supposed to be independent, but it no longer is. And the Supreme Court validated that the president can do whatever he wants in office without facing prosecution. So…what now? 🤷‍♀️

The investigation has been taken over y the FBI, which now apparently does whatever Trump wants now.

Jonathan Ross, that particular ICE agent, has form for putting himself in front of moving vehicles and for trying to get into the windows/doors of moving vehicles. This is not his first time behaving this way. Was he trained by ICE to do this? Is it part of ICE protocol? Or is he consistently making poor decisions and putting himself unnecessarily in harm’s way (against ICE protocol)?

On the contrary, there is clear video evidence (from more than one bystander) that she steered away from him and deliberately didn't hit him - even though he was apparently so 'frightened' of her as a 'terrorist' that he deliberately jumped in front of her car.

She was either the most incompetent terrorist ever; or a courageous, decent, peace-loving citizen. The video evidence makes it very clear indeed which one she was.

Saw something on New York Times instagram earlier-

“Six federal prosecutors in Minnesota resigned on Tuesday over the Justice Department’s push to investigate the widow of Renee Good, the women killed by an ICE agent, and the department’s reluctance to investigate the shooter, according to people with knowledge of their decision.

Joseph Thompson, a career federal prosecutor, was among those who resigned. He objected to the investigation into Good’s wife, as well as to the Justice Department’s refusal to include state officials in investigating whether the shooting itself was lawful, the people familiar with his decision said.”

So, by the sounds of it… no.

Yes I wonder where we can find out what these checks and balances actually are, and how they are invoked.

Is it a case of the opposition (Dems mostly) being unable or unwilling to challenge this, or is there absolutely no point, because.... why?

Surely there is something in the Constitution that upholds the law and holds the Administration to account. Otherwise what is the point of it? When you think of the machinations of the Electoral College that is meant to ensure an even handedness despite the size/population of a particular State, one wonders what the heck is going on, or isn't as it seems.

Is it fear, is it inability, is it a waste of time, is it inertia, does anyone know FGS.

I don’t really understand why a country with such a highly developed, sophisticated legal system and certainly no shortage of lawyers doesn’t seem able to hold Renee’s killers to account.

Can Trump’s legal immunity really protect ICE agents against investigation for offences by individual states? Where are the checks and balances?

That’s actually irrelevant to OP’s point. In any sensible situation, politicians would not brand her a domestic terrorist within hours. He would not have been able to drive off. The vice president would not make the absurd and false claim that “That guy is protected by absolute immunity”. That is simply not true.
A sensible, rational, responsible government would refuse to comment, and ensure a proper investigation. If that investigation found that your version of events is correct, then fine. That would not be injustice.

Of course there will be no justice. They labelled her a Domestic Terrorist before her body was even cold. The FBI have taken over the investigation, prompted by the president. If the State of Minnesota had charged the ICE agent, the only person who could pardon him would be the Governor (VP candidate Tim Walz). Since it’s now a federal case, the person who can pardon him is (surprise surprise) Cheeto Don.