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To think there shouldn't be a right to *protest*

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Bathingnow · 13/01/2026 13:24

People constantly repeat that the right to protest is some kind of sacred democratic principle that must be protected at all costs. I genuinely do not understand why this is taken as an unquestionable truth. What about the rights of everyone else? What about the right to go to work, get children to school, attend hospital appointments, or simply go about daily life without being obstructed, shouted at, or intimidated?

I fully support the right to dissent. People should be able to express views that challenge the government, corporations, or any other powerful body. That is a basic part of a free society. Free expression means being allowed to say unpopular things without fear of punishment. It does not mean having a free pass to disrupt other people’s lives or hold them hostage to your cause.

If you believe for example climate change is an emergency and the government should “just stop oil”, fine. Argue your case. Write letters to newspapers. Lobby MPs. Stand in Speaker’s Corner and shout yourself hoarse. Post endlessly on social media. Organise debates, whatever. All of that is legitimate and entirely compatible with democracy. None of it requires blocking roads, gluing yourself to infrastructure, or preventing ordinary people from getting where they need to be.

The idea that making life miserable for strangers somehow advances your cause is absurd. Blocking an ambulance, stopping a parent getting to work, or preventing someone from attending a funeral does not win hearts and minds. It just creates resentment. You are not enlightening people. You are inconveniencing them and expecting applause for it.

This applies to every issue, whether it is climate change, Gaza, housing, or anything else. A cause does not become morally superior simply because the people shouting about it feel very strongly. Once a protest crosses the line into infringing on other people’s civil liberties, it stops being a protest and starts being coercion.

Democracy should protect free speech and peaceful expression. It should also protect the public from disruption imposed by self appointed activists who believe their views trump everyone else’s rights. If exercising a so called right to protest requires trampling over the freedoms of others, then that right needs serious limits. I see no reason why the ability to disrupt daily life should be treated as some untouchable democratic virtue.

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Brefugee · 13/01/2026 15:49

are you the poster that thinks people who are in net tax deficit shouldn't get the vote?

Grammarnut · 13/01/2026 15:47

You are wrong. Yes, sometimes protests inconvenience others but it is very easy for a government to ignore dissent - until it emerges on the streets.

Hoardasurass · 13/01/2026 15:46

Fernsrus · 13/01/2026 14:26

Oooh! Let’s define hate speech and go for that. Wait-we already did. Except we still hear plenty of it from certain quarters.

Yes particularly from those on certain protest marches

RudolphTheReindeer · 13/01/2026 15:38

SerendipityJane · 13/01/2026 14:33

If you aren't happy that other people have the right to protest, then you are free to protest yourself to have it abolished.

Yes. And presumably you won't be blocking any roads or disrupting anyone else. Good luck with not being listened too.

Bathingnow · 13/01/2026 14:47

Alexandra2001 · 13/01/2026 14:43

Well, Violence etc is dealt with under existing laws.

Any number of people on the streets, peacefully marching will by its very nature inconvenience people/block roads.... a public nuisance if you like, same as our local 1/2 and Full charity Marathons.

"Inappropriate Protests" who do you think should decide that?

Unfortunately, Governments once in power, tend to want to stay in power and do what they like, protest, even violent protest is one way to ensure they don't forget who really calls the tune...

See how Labour have now cracked down far harder on immigration than the Tories ever did because of protest...

It cause should be allowed to block the roads for a rally once maybe twice a year. Similar to the marathon for example. But just like you wouldn't accept a marathon being run every second day and blocking public roads and inconvenience together so it should be illegal to call it a protest and do the same.

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Bathingnow · 13/01/2026 14:43

Northerngirl821 · 13/01/2026 14:40

The right to protest IS the right to dissent and does not empower you to commit public law offences or block the highway.

Do you mean that you wish a harsher line was taken with the enforcement of public order laws in relation to protest so that there was less inconvenience caused to the public as a whole?

I thought I was clear enough in the OP. I even used chatgpt to make my points clear.

You should absolutely have the right to voice dissenting opinions. You should absolutely not have the right to stop other people going about their daily lives.

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Alexandra2001 · 13/01/2026 14:43

Hoardasurass · 13/01/2026 14:17

Blocking roads and causing a public nuisance, being violent and using hate speach or threats isn't part of the right to protest, nor is weekly marches.
What needs to happen is anyone organising these inappropriate protests should be prosecuted along with those taking part

Well, Violence etc is dealt with under existing laws.

Any number of people on the streets, peacefully marching will by its very nature inconvenience people/block roads.... a public nuisance if you like, same as our local 1/2 and Full charity Marathons.

"Inappropriate Protests" who do you think should decide that?

Unfortunately, Governments once in power, tend to want to stay in power and do what they like, protest, even violent protest is one way to ensure they don't forget who really calls the tune...

See how Labour have now cracked down far harder on immigration than the Tories ever did because of protest...

Dollymylove · 13/01/2026 14:41

Depends upon who you are tbh. I you are protesting because you want 1000s of undocumented men entering the country illegally, crack on.
If you're protesting against 1000s of the above, you're a far right thug and should never see the light of day ever again 😉

Northerngirl821 · 13/01/2026 14:40

Bathingnow · 13/01/2026 14:31

I don't want that taken away. That's what I meant when I said I support the right to dissent. You should be able to voice your opinion, even inconvenience Parliament or political institutions, but you should have no right to interfere with my (ie regular civilian's) life.

The right to protest IS the right to dissent and does not empower you to commit public law offences or block the highway.

Do you mean that you wish a harsher line was taken with the enforcement of public order laws in relation to protest so that there was less inconvenience caused to the public as a whole?

Bathingnow · 13/01/2026 14:39

Alpacajigsaw · 13/01/2026 13:42

The inconvenience it causes to others is kind of the point. Similar to going on strike.

YABU

I'm curious, you know all the bad parking threads we have on MN. Well imagine the one blocking the driveway or whatever says, 'I'm not a dickhead, I'm protesting climate change.'

Do you think that would make it OK?

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Bathingnow · 13/01/2026 14:37

AgnesX · 13/01/2026 14:27

A Reform voter perchance?

Of course people should be allowed to have their say. How can they get government to listen. Now, in the past, ever.

You think pigeonholing someone is enough to dismiss a valid point? Ftr I'm not a reform voter, but that's not relevant anyway.

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SerendipityJane · 13/01/2026 14:35

soupyspoon · 13/01/2026 14:32

This argument is always bought out as a gotcha

Its not, it wasnt the protesting that brought about the changes.

Does that mean if we want to achieve more social changes of equality we always need a war that kills millions ?

Bathingnow · 13/01/2026 14:34

BlackCatDiscoClub · 13/01/2026 14:12

Protest means collectively disagreeing with something. You don't think people should be allowed to collectively disagree on things?

Sure disagree collectively, but that doesn't equal stopping other people from going about their lives. Organise large rallies in open spaces and protest to your heart's content, but don't block roads or public throughfares.

I could even understand a once a year or six months march (per cause) on public roads, but not daily or weekly marches that block roads. Why does your right to shout trump my right to go about my life?

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SerendipityJane · 13/01/2026 14:33

If you aren't happy that other people have the right to protest, then you are free to protest yourself to have it abolished.

soupyspoon · 13/01/2026 14:32

AndMilesToGo · 13/01/2026 13:31

Yes, those bloody suffragettes, chaining themselves to railings, inconveniencing golfers and getting in the way of horse racing. 🙄

This argument is always bought out as a gotcha

Its not, it wasnt the protesting that brought about the changes.

Bathingnow · 13/01/2026 14:31

Northerngirl821 · 13/01/2026 14:05

Oh dear.

The right to protest does not equate to the right to block ambulances, obstruct roads etc. That’s where public order laws come into play.

The right to protest means you can peacefully express your views without being thrown into jail for disagreeing with the government.

Why would anyone want that taken away?

I don't want that taken away. That's what I meant when I said I support the right to dissent. You should be able to voice your opinion, even inconvenience Parliament or political institutions, but you should have no right to interfere with my (ie regular civilian's) life.

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AgnesX · 13/01/2026 14:27

A Reform voter perchance?

Of course people should be allowed to have their say. How can they get government to listen. Now, in the past, ever.

LakieLady · 13/01/2026 14:27

OonaStubbs · 13/01/2026 13:38

I think protesting nowadays is counterproductive. It's always the same people that protest everything, there's always people with socialist worker placards at every protest, and it just gets peoples backs up and doesn't achieve anything except annoying people.

Are you honestly trying to tell us that the people on Steven Yaxley-Lennon's racist "Raise the Colours" march were the same people as those on the counter-protest on the same day?

Or that Stand Up to Racism protestors are the same people as those shouting abuse outside asylum-seeker accommodation?

I very much doubt that you see SWP placards among those protesting about asylum seekers, and not everyone carrying an SWP placard supports the SWP. The SWP rock up with loads of the fucking things and just hand them out. You see a fair few people ripping the "Socialist Worker Party" bit off the bottom before they carry them, precisely because they don't support the SWP.

Fernsrus · 13/01/2026 14:26

Hoardasurass · 13/01/2026 14:17

Blocking roads and causing a public nuisance, being violent and using hate speach or threats isn't part of the right to protest, nor is weekly marches.
What needs to happen is anyone organising these inappropriate protests should be prosecuted along with those taking part

Oooh! Let’s define hate speech and go for that. Wait-we already did. Except we still hear plenty of it from certain quarters.

myglowupera · 13/01/2026 14:26

Those just stop oil protesters were like soulless robots when that poor mum was begging them to move so she could get her baby to the hospital. There is a line and I think they crossed it. Absolutely dead inside.

TheCompactPussycat · 13/01/2026 14:25

OonaStubbs · 13/01/2026 13:39

People should not be allowed to break the law just because they are "protesting".

They aren't though are they. Breaking the law is breaking the law. There are not different laws that apply if you're protesting. "I was protesting, your honour" is not a viable defence. What makes you think they're being allowed to break the law?

Fernsrus · 13/01/2026 14:24

Reform thread, I expect.

Arcadia · 13/01/2026 14:23

In poor taste given what is happening in Iran at the moment.

Snowmoebeele · 13/01/2026 14:23

I think we should be more like France and protest even more. They don't tolerate the shit their government tries to impose.

Peaceful, organised protests deliberately dont even get mentioned on the news. The only way to get the government to listen to be a pain in the arse and inconvenience people.

If the right to protest is curtailed we head even deeper into control.

You would damn well sit down in the street if something mattered to you enough OP. I guarantee it.

Snowmoebeele · 13/01/2026 14:19

beefthief · 13/01/2026 13:25

No, you are wrong.

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