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Wasn't allowed to use disabled toilet despite the fact no other toilet was available. AIBU?

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fakenamefornow · 13/01/2026 13:00

Seaside town with beach that stretches about 1.5 miles away from town centre with just flats and houses facing beach, ie no pubs or cafés that might let me use the toilet. It's about 10am rainy January morning, nobody else about apart from about two/three people and dogs on the beach.
Half way along on seafront is a public toilet block. Both mens and womens shuttered up and locked. Disabled toilet, locked, had a phone number to call for remote access so they could let people in. Called number and despite me pleading that I was desperate for the loo (I was) and pointing out no others available, I was refused absolutely point blank access because I wasn't disabled.
I don't think this is fair at all, but what do others think?
YANBU - she should have let you in.
YABU - no way should she have let you in regardless of how much you needed the loo.

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OwlBeThere · 13/01/2026 17:09

FrightfulNightfull · 13/01/2026 17:02

OP - I don’t even know if there is an actual toilet in that facility!!!! Perhaps THAT is why you weren’t allowed in

See here…

https://www.astorbannerman.co.uk/news/new-accessible-toilet-facility-officially-opens-in-weston-super-mare/

You can see the toilet In one of the photos. There is definitely a toilet, I’ve used it myself.

fakenamefornow · 13/01/2026 17:08

FrightfulNightfull · 13/01/2026 17:03

OP - did they explain to you what the facility consists of?

No

OP posts:
LadyTangerine · 13/01/2026 17:07

I think it's great that toilets for disabled people are being kept for disabled people. Toilets like blue badge parking spaces are often used by able bodied people.

Sorry op but if I were you'd I'd plan better and make sure there are facilities available if you have an urgency or incontinence issue.

fakenamefornow · 13/01/2026 17:07

FrightfulNightfull · 13/01/2026 16:56

@Noshadelamp
why would having a changing places facility not be legal?
They are for those with disabilities and are funded by various different groups..
Is it legal for a restaurant to specify that its toilets are solely for customer use??

For those pp’s talking about incontinence type disability (without wheelchair use) (the urgency etc) changing spaces do cover that type of disability too.

This is what the Changing Places website says:

People with profound and multiple learning disabilities, as well as people with other physical disabilities such as spinal injuries, muscular dystrophy and multiple sclerosis often need extra equipment and space to allow them to use the toilets safely and comfortably. These needs are met by Changing Places toilets. Changing Places toilets are different to standard accessible toilets and should be provided in addition to accessible toilets.
….
Different organisations will be responsible for the Changing Places toilet, depending on how and by whom they were installed. Local authorities, public sector organisations and private organisations may all have installed a Changing Places toilet in your area.

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Not all disabilities are visible. Many people live with conditions that affect their mobility, dignity, and independence in ways that aren't immediately obvious to others. For those with invisible disabilities, such as neurological conditions, chronic illnesses, or severe continence issues, standard accessible toilets often don’t meet their needs.

Changing Places toilets are designed to bridge this gap.They provide essential features like extra space for carers, a height-adjustable adult-sized changing bench, a hoist system, a colostomy shelf, and sometimes even a shower. These facilities ensure that everyone has access to a safe, clean, and dignified toilet experience.

It's important to remember that needing these facilities doesn't always "look" a certain way. A person may appear able-bodied but still require the specialised equipment or space that a Changing Places toilet offers. By understanding and supporting the need for these inclusive spaces, we move closer to creating a society that values dignity, equality, and true accessibility for all.
Supporting Carers

Edited

By that reading I could possibly have fit their profile. I'm not disabled and wouldn't describe myself as having continence issues but I need need to go to the loo about every hour to 1 5 hours and a couple of times in the night. If I don't go I can get a bit 'leaky'. I don't consider this incontinence but others might.
I did explain to her I couldn't wait but it made no difference.

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Mt563 · 13/01/2026 17:07

Changing places facilities are quite different and specialist. They're very expensive and can understand the need to protect them but I'm not sure how you do that without also inconveniencing and discriminating against people.

FrightfulNightfull · 13/01/2026 17:05

@Ohhohoho
But if the facility doesn’t have an actual toilet (like this one doesn’t appear to).., ??

Ohhohoho · 13/01/2026 17:04

fakenamefornow · 13/01/2026 13:09

And I was really desperate. I was told doesn't matter, if you have the shits, incontinence, young children etc. The toilet is only for disabled people. I even asked if I could speak to a manager who might have some discretion, told - no and that they only say I couldn't use it anyway. It was a 'changing places (?) toilet if that makes a difference and in Weston-super-Mare. I think the person was just being mean not letting me use it. I don't see who benefits or loses anything by saying 'no'.

Sorry they actually said it doesn’t matter if you have incontinence? I have MS and struggle with intermittent incontinence and would argue it’s the worst part of my disability. Definitely a disability and I use the disabled toilets for it (as they are bigger so I have more room to change myself). That’s disgusting.

FrightfulNightfull · 13/01/2026 17:03

OP - did they explain to you what the facility consists of?

sharkyroy · 13/01/2026 16:57

I’m interested to know what you did OP?

igelkott2026 · 13/01/2026 16:56

The other week I was in a cafe where they'd decided to use codes on the doors and make you take a receipt to get the code to use the loos. I thought it was tight so my little bit of rebellion was to lock my door as I left so it stayed open and someone could go in and use it without needing the code.

I don't agree with service providers gatekeeping their loos. I have read posts on here about disgusting behaviour, but I can't really see that someone using the cafe and buying a drink is any less likely to trash the loos than someone walking in off the street because they are desperate.

And councils CAN afford to keep loos open. They just choose not to.

soddingspiderseason · 13/01/2026 16:56

A changing places toilet is not an ordinary disabled loo. It will have a lot of specialist equipment in, hoists etc and a large bed for adults with significant disabilities to be changed on. Access is restricted to people who need that level of support. The issue is that no other toilets were available, and that is worth complaining about.

FrightfulNightfull · 13/01/2026 16:56

@Noshadelamp
why would having a changing places facility not be legal?
They are for those with disabilities and are funded by various different groups..
Is it legal for a restaurant to specify that its toilets are solely for customer use??

For those pp’s talking about incontinence type disability (without wheelchair use) (the urgency etc) changing spaces do cover that type of disability too.

This is what the Changing Places website says:

People with profound and multiple learning disabilities, as well as people with other physical disabilities such as spinal injuries, muscular dystrophy and multiple sclerosis often need extra equipment and space to allow them to use the toilets safely and comfortably. These needs are met by Changing Places toilets. Changing Places toilets are different to standard accessible toilets and should be provided in addition to accessible toilets.
….
Different organisations will be responsible for the Changing Places toilet, depending on how and by whom they were installed. Local authorities, public sector organisations and private organisations may all have installed a Changing Places toilet in your area.

…
Not all disabilities are visible. Many people live with conditions that affect their mobility, dignity, and independence in ways that aren't immediately obvious to others. For those with invisible disabilities, such as neurological conditions, chronic illnesses, or severe continence issues, standard accessible toilets often don’t meet their needs.

Changing Places toilets are designed to bridge this gap.They provide essential features like extra space for carers, a height-adjustable adult-sized changing bench, a hoist system, a colostomy shelf, and sometimes even a shower. These facilities ensure that everyone has access to a safe, clean, and dignified toilet experience.

It's important to remember that needing these facilities doesn't always "look" a certain way. A person may appear able-bodied but still require the specialised equipment or space that a Changing Places toilet offers. By understanding and supporting the need for these inclusive spaces, we move closer to creating a society that values dignity, equality, and true accessibility for all.
Supporting Carers

MyDeftDuck · 13/01/2026 16:55

Sc00bySnax432 · 13/01/2026 13:16

Suggest writing a complaint letter or email to the council or whoever is responsible for these facilities.

No reason to deny anyone access to public facilities.

This
That local authority are discriminating in not allowing everyone to use THE ONLY AVAILABLE TOILET!
Whoever answered the phone to you was a complete power crazy jobsworth!

I was at a hotel during Christmas and went to use the toilet, I am disabled and use walking sticks and I have a radar key but the disabled toilet was not locked and was unoccupied. There was a bloke waiting outside the ladies loo for his wife, he stepped across the disabled loo door and tried to direct me to the normal loo claiming ‘you have to go in there’ . I firmly stated ‘ No, I’m going in the disabled ‘ . He reluctantly moved to let me by, for the rest of Christmas I referred to him as the Loo Police! 🤣🧑‍✈️🚽

sharkyroy · 13/01/2026 16:54

fakenamefornow · 13/01/2026 13:19

Maybe you should all phone the number and ask why they wouldn't let a mumnetter go to the loo Grin

That’s a fucking awful thing to suggest, because you know, some idiots will.

igelkott2026 · 13/01/2026 16:51

I doubt you'll ever be in this position again OP but next time just lie and say you have IBS and you need the loo now. Oh just seen that they were basically under the impression that disability only means in a wheelchair? In that case definitely complain and explain about hidden disabilities. Do they really want people having bowel movements around the beach because they really really can't wait?

It also annoys me when councils pay parking attendants to patrol car parks but won't keep the car park loos open at the same time! Of course, one is revenue generation and the other isn't.

TallulahBetty · 13/01/2026 16:49

Climbingrosexx · 13/01/2026 13:04

Absolutely should have let you in and if there is anyone to complain to i would. I understand those with disabilities should take priority but that doesn't mean everyone else should risk the indignity of an accident if there are no other options.

Handicap? In 2026?

Noshadelamp · 13/01/2026 16:44

fakenamefornow · 13/01/2026 13:09

And I was really desperate. I was told doesn't matter, if you have the shits, incontinence, young children etc. The toilet is only for disabled people. I even asked if I could speak to a manager who might have some discretion, told - no and that they only say I couldn't use it anyway. It was a 'changing places (?) toilet if that makes a difference and in Weston-super-Mare. I think the person was just being mean not letting me use it. I don't see who benefits or loses anything by saying 'no'.

Incontinence can be a disability. They sound awful, what sort of person weilds their power to not allow someone access to a toilet?
It's a bad system overall.

Do they take a simple "yes I have a disability"for an answer, or are people forced to give their private and sensitive medical information out loud over the phone to a jobs worth call handler?

Surely this isn't even legal??

UnctuousUnicorns · 13/01/2026 16:42

TY78910 · 13/01/2026 16:14

I think the poster was sarcastic.

I suspect this is in reference to signs saying "Anyone who seems to be unsure what's inside their pants (or words to that effect) is welcome to use this facility".

And yes, as a wheelchair user myself, I can confirm that even when having locked the accessible toilet from the inside, I have been walked in on before now. I now keep one eye on the door, ready to yell if someone tries to get in.

If the non accessible ladies or gents toilets are locked and I see someone needing to use the loo, I'll happily let them in after me, because disabled or not, I've known the feeling of being desperate before now, and wouldn't see anyone else suffer likewise. There is such a dearth of public toilets in many places now, due to so many being closed due to council cutbacks, vandalism, drunkenness and drug addiction, sleazy perverts dogging etc.in them. It stinks (no pun intended).

BettysRoasties · 13/01/2026 16:41

Question ends up being.

How much council tax do you wish to pay extra for public toilets to keep being fixed and cleaned multiple times a day due to damage.

That’s the issue really the council cannot keep funding all the cleaning and repairs so they close them longer and longer and then permanently. Without a on site member of staff £££ or a system like this £££ they will keep getting damaged £££££ so if we want them we are going to have to pay for them.

DBD1975 · 13/01/2026 16:35

Rosscameasdoody · 13/01/2026 16:32

In which case the local authority should be doing the right thing and making public toilets available to the public, not forcing non disabled people to seek permission to use a facility that was not meant for them.

I meant the person on the end of the phone who wouldn't allow the OP to use the toilet.
In my opinion they should have let them and this situation is and was ridiculous.

Rosscameasdoody · 13/01/2026 16:35

C8H10N4O2 · 13/01/2026 16:33

The people running the campaign absolutely should be told that their user base are being required to itemise their medical conditions out loud, whilst remaining on the public highway, to some random on the end of the phone who may or may not decide they are worthy to use the loo.

Its completely against the spirit of inclusion which underpins the campaign.

Agree with this. It’s down to the council making more facilities available and not forcing people to seek permission to use specialist facilities not meant for them.

C8H10N4O2 · 13/01/2026 16:33

EleanorPeck · 13/01/2026 14:40

Please don't bother the people who lead on the Charging Places campaign. There's nothing they can do about this. These are specialist toilets designed for disabled people with high support needs, who cannot use the general accessible loos. Your complaint should be focused on why the other loos were locked up.

The people running the campaign absolutely should be told that their user base are being required to itemise their medical conditions out loud, whilst remaining on the public highway, to some random on the end of the phone who may or may not decide they are worthy to use the loo.

Its completely against the spirit of inclusion which underpins the campaign.

sprigatito · 13/01/2026 16:33

The public toilet situation in this country is absolutely desperate (pun intended). Every single person needs to pee/poo while out using public amenities, so if there are no toilets, people will and do have to risk going in bushes, alleys etc…I see so many outraged posts on social media about human waste in public areas and how disgusting people are, but it’s a problem being driven by utter lack of other options.

I understand that public toilets have been used for drug abuse and other vices. Twas ever so - but the solution can’t be that we just don’t have toilets at all. It’s ableist in particular; the country is full of people with disabilities who don’t qualify for legal recognition or any benefits, and the lack of provision means they basically can’t go out and enjoy public spaces.

Oldfriendleave · 13/01/2026 16:32

Surely the entire point of disabled and accessible toilets is to make sure that no one is left without a toilet they can reliably use.

No one should be put in the position where they might have an accident because there is no toilet.

Of course they should have let you use the toilet.

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