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Wasn't allowed to use disabled toilet despite the fact no other toilet was available. AIBU?

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fakenamefornow · 13/01/2026 13:00

Seaside town with beach that stretches about 1.5 miles away from town centre with just flats and houses facing beach, ie no pubs or cafés that might let me use the toilet. It's about 10am rainy January morning, nobody else about apart from about two/three people and dogs on the beach.
Half way along on seafront is a public toilet block. Both mens and womens shuttered up and locked. Disabled toilet, locked, had a phone number to call for remote access so they could let people in. Called number and despite me pleading that I was desperate for the loo (I was) and pointing out no others available, I was refused absolutely point blank access because I wasn't disabled.
I don't think this is fair at all, but what do others think?
YANBU - she should have let you in.
YABU - no way should she have let you in regardless of how much you needed the loo.

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BoredZelda · 13/01/2026 17:35

fakenamefornow · 13/01/2026 17:12

I don't know WSM at all btw.

But you knew it well enough to know cafes were 1.5 miles away? (Which, they actually weren’t) 🤷‍♀️

The public toilets in the same building were shuttered up with those looked like shop window roller shutters.

Looking at the construction, it seems it would be difficult to do that. Not being council run, I would assume these are closed long term as you wouldn’t have someone coming to do that every day. Likely due to a problem with vandalism. Even more of a reason not to allow anyone who doesn’t actually need the facility to use a changing places toilet.

I have the same issue as you with peeing. I’d never consider using a disabled toilet because of it. It is entirely manageable and not at all the level of incontinence experienced by people who do use disabled loos. Pads are available and go before you leave.

Rosscameasdoody · 13/01/2026 17:29

OwlBeThere · 13/01/2026 17:15

Where do you think disabled people get radar keys from? You don’t get one in some sort of ‘welcome to the disability club’ pack. We buy them. Online usually.

And there is no ban on able bodied people buying them.

Rosscameasdoody · 13/01/2026 17:29

OwlBeThere · 13/01/2026 17:25

They have priority to be the next person in. Even disabled people sometimes have to queue for the toilets. When I’m queuing to use the disabled toilet I will often tell someone who is clearly in desperate need to go before me if I don’t have an urgent need myself. Because I have a brain and common sense. Being disabled doesnt mean never having to wait to use the loo, fgs.

So you don’t think that a disabled person who needs the accessible toilet because of a burst or leaking stoma bag should have any priority when there’s a queue ? What’s the point of providing them then ?

TY78910 · 13/01/2026 17:28

BoredZelda · 13/01/2026 17:15

This is not a radar lock then.

It uses a radar key to open. Who cares what the technical spec of the lock is? Lots of accessible toilets use this type of locking mechanism which use a radar key to open from the outside.

Rosscameasdoody · 13/01/2026 17:27

OwlBeThere · 13/01/2026 17:19

People with continence issues can’t plan ahead, that’s the whole point. The urge to go happens when it happens. The only way to be able to ‘plan ahead’ is to never leave the house if they aren’t able to use accessible toilets. Even thought accessible toilets are there, in part SPECIFICALLY for people with continence issues.
this is the most backwards arguement I’ve ever read. You are saying people who need the toilets shouldn’t use them, in order for them to be free for people who need them.

make it make sense, fgs.

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I have continence issues and a stoma, and I can assure you I absolutely do plan ahead so that I know where open accessible toilets can be used if necessary. The problem is that people who really don’t need accessible toilets are using them as a stopgap because standard toilets are locked. That was never the intention and i think it’s more down to local authorities trying to save money on maintenance by locking standard toilets and making accessible loos the only ones available for all.

OwlBeThere · 13/01/2026 17:25

BoredZelda · 13/01/2026 15:41

How can a disabled person have priority if you are already in there?

They have priority to be the next person in. Even disabled people sometimes have to queue for the toilets. When I’m queuing to use the disabled toilet I will often tell someone who is clearly in desperate need to go before me if I don’t have an urgent need myself. Because I have a brain and common sense. Being disabled doesnt mean never having to wait to use the loo, fgs.

UnctuousUnicorns · 13/01/2026 17:24

OwlBeThere · 13/01/2026 17:15

Where do you think disabled people get radar keys from? You don’t get one in some sort of ‘welcome to the disability club’ pack. We buy them. Online usually.

Yep. I bought mine on Amazon, three in a pack, they've worked every time, thank fuck. I'm glad I didn't have to prove my cripple credentials to any self appointed gatekeepers in order to be able to take a piss in dignity. It's bad enough having our savings wiped out by having to buy wheelchairs, ramps, stair lifts, walk in bath etc. Life is shit enough without people quibbling over who should or shouldn't have to prove they qualify for a bloody radar key.

OttersLoveFish · 13/01/2026 17:24

LadyTangerine · 13/01/2026 17:12

Well I would disagree and for once it is great that facilties for disabled people, those with actual disabilities and possibly blue badges are actually being protected.

OP has a continence issue. Are you actually saying people like me with a hidden disability shouldn’t be using disabled toilets because I don’t look disabled? You don't need to flash your blue badge, look disabled or have to disclose your disability to use a disabled toilet for goodness sake. The OP has said they have continence issues, the toilet was empty, there was no queue.

@fakenamefornow did they ask you to disclose if you had a disability to them on the phone?

BoredZelda · 13/01/2026 17:24

fakenamefornow · 13/01/2026 17:10

The public toilets in the same building were shuttered up with those looked like shop window roller shutters.

“Desperate to pee” isn’t a protected characteristic. There was no discrimination here.

Rosscameasdoody · 13/01/2026 17:23

LadyTangerine · 13/01/2026 17:14

No, I mean like everyone with an issue be it medical or whatever if you need something you plan ahead and go where provision is available.

If someone has a medical issue resulting in incontinence then accessible toilets are absolutely for them. Someone like OP who just has the urge to use the loo while out and finds the standard facilities locked doesn’t have the same entitlement. That’s not what these facilities are there for, and instead of complaining that no-one would allow access to facilities not meant for her, OP should be concentrating on lobbying for adequate provision of standard toilets.

OwlBeThere · 13/01/2026 17:19

LadyTangerine · 13/01/2026 17:14

No, I mean like everyone with an issue be it medical or whatever if you need something you plan ahead and go where provision is available.

People with continence issues can’t plan ahead, that’s the whole point. The urge to go happens when it happens. The only way to be able to ‘plan ahead’ is to never leave the house if they aren’t able to use accessible toilets. Even thought accessible toilets are there, in part SPECIFICALLY for people with continence issues.
this is the most backwards arguement I’ve ever read. You are saying people who need the toilets shouldn’t use them, in order for them to be free for people who need them.

make it make sense, fgs.

sprigatito · 13/01/2026 17:18

LadyTangerine · 13/01/2026 17:14

No, I mean like everyone with an issue be it medical or whatever if you need something you plan ahead and go where provision is available.

So you absolutely do mean self-exclusion, then. “Go where provision is available” means NOT going to local beaches/parks/other public amenities where toilets are locked or not provided. You said it, at least have the courage to own it.

OwlBeThere · 13/01/2026 17:15

SequoiaTree · 13/01/2026 14:23

They are more likely to have instant access if it's only disabled people using it than if its disabled people plus able bodied people who've bought a radar key online.

Where do you think disabled people get radar keys from? You don’t get one in some sort of ‘welcome to the disability club’ pack. We buy them. Online usually.

BoredZelda · 13/01/2026 17:15

TY78910 · 13/01/2026 16:08

We have an accessible toilet at work and when the cleaners work on the regular loos, we have to use the other toilet. There are two keys. When you go in, you take the key in with you but to lock it you push the handle down and that locks it. Numerous times other employees took the other key and unlocked from the outside.

This is not a radar lock then.

BoredZelda · 13/01/2026 17:14

Iatecocomelon · 13/01/2026 15:53

Unless the lock is broken when its pretty much a free for all then. I've both accidentally opened and had doors opened on me.

If any lock is broken it’s a problem. Nothing to do with how radar keys work.

LadyTangerine · 13/01/2026 17:14

sprigatito · 13/01/2026 17:12

When you say “make sure there are facilities available” for sudden urges and incontinence, what do you actually mean? Do you mean that people with these medical issues should self-exclude from public life because there are no toilets for them? Because that is what is happening, and it’s crazy. 2026 and we’re happy for thousands of already marginalised people to miss out on public amenities because of sheer mean-spiritedness and penny pinching.

I would, for the record, happily pay more council tax if the money were ring fenced for toilet provision. It’s not optional.

No, I mean like everyone with an issue be it medical or whatever if you need something you plan ahead and go where provision is available.

OwlBeThere · 13/01/2026 17:13

fakenamefornow · 13/01/2026 17:07

By that reading I could possibly have fit their profile. I'm not disabled and wouldn't describe myself as having continence issues but I need need to go to the loo about every hour to 1 5 hours and a couple of times in the night. If I don't go I can get a bit 'leaky'. I don't consider this incontinence but others might.
I did explain to her I couldn't wait but it made no difference.

do you have a radar key? I’d get one, you can buy them for a few quid off Amazon or eBay. I got mine when I was having symptoms that turned out to be Crohn’s disease. If you need to go often then you ARE as far as an accessible toilet is concerned disabled. The fact they wouldn’t let you is a disgrace.

LadyTangerine · 13/01/2026 17:12

OwlBeThere · 13/01/2026 17:10

If a person has an urgency or continence issue then accessible toilets are for them. Because they have a medical need to use a toilet quickly or more often.

Well I would disagree and for once it is great that facilties for disabled people, those with actual disabilities and possibly blue badges are actually being protected.

sprigatito · 13/01/2026 17:12

LadyTangerine · 13/01/2026 17:07

I think it's great that toilets for disabled people are being kept for disabled people. Toilets like blue badge parking spaces are often used by able bodied people.

Sorry op but if I were you'd I'd plan better and make sure there are facilities available if you have an urgency or incontinence issue.

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When you say “make sure there are facilities available” for sudden urges and incontinence, what do you actually mean? Do you mean that people with these medical issues should self-exclude from public life because there are no toilets for them? Because that is what is happening, and it’s crazy. 2026 and we’re happy for thousands of already marginalised people to miss out on public amenities because of sheer mean-spiritedness and penny pinching.

I would, for the record, happily pay more council tax if the money were ring fenced for toilet provision. It’s not optional.

fakenamefornow · 13/01/2026 17:12

I don't know WSM at all btw.

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UnctuousUnicorns · 13/01/2026 17:12

FrightfulNightfull · 13/01/2026 17:05

@Ohhohoho
But if the facility doesn’t have an actual toilet (like this one doesn’t appear to).., ??

It does, in the third of the row of smaller pictures in that link. You can see the grab bars, cistern and the rest of the toilet, not in full view, but it's there.

Thelittleweasel · 13/01/2026 17:11

@fakenamefornow

Contact your local Councillor about this or if not in the area the local Councillor. It is basically discrimination! I would simply say - if it happened again - that I was not mobile enough to sit and rise without using rails which are provided in disabled toilets. The "normal" toilets are presumably due to vandalism or the Council's wish to save money. You can [in Boots I believe] get a lanyard which says - aptly - "not every disability is visible"

LadyTangerine · 13/01/2026 17:11

fakenamefornow · 13/01/2026 17:07

By that reading I could possibly have fit their profile. I'm not disabled and wouldn't describe myself as having continence issues but I need need to go to the loo about every hour to 1 5 hours and a couple of times in the night. If I don't go I can get a bit 'leaky'. I don't consider this incontinence but others might.
I did explain to her I couldn't wait but it made no difference.

But most public/council toilets are locked up at this time of the year. What would you normally do?
Maybe buy a SheWee and pop in your handbag if you're planning on going walking where there aren't any cafes, shops etc?

fakenamefornow · 13/01/2026 17:10

BoredZelda · 13/01/2026 15:35

This is the key point here. It’s not just a disabled toilet, it is a specialist facility, provided for a very specific purpose. It is not a public toilet. They need to be kept available for those who need them and letting others in to them puts additional maintenance and repair pressures on them.

These toilets are hard won as a result of some frustrating, difficult campaigning by people who frankly have quite enough on their plate but managed to fight for these spaces. They are usually a result of additional fundraising too. People who need to use them have already had to go quite far out of their way to get there after having searched to find their nearest facility. They have probably planned their entire day around this being available. This one is at Tropicana @ Weston Super-Mare. The next nearest one to this is half a mile away (if the town hall is open) or 3 miles away at Tesco. It would be incredibly frustrating to get there and find it in use by a non disabled person who is incapable of planning a walk to the beach without thinking about where they might go to the toilet.

What’s confusing to me is, the public toilets right next to there are managed by the same people you were on the phone to. I’m surprised they didn’t advise you or you didn’t ask why they were closed. They don’t have shutters on them so not sure what you mean by “shuttered”. Is it possible you didn’t want/weren’t able to pay the 30p to access them?

I’m also confused about you saying there was nowhere within a 1.5 mile radius you could find a toilet. There are a few cafes in the area. The main part where all the cafes are is a 15 minute walk. There’s the golf club a few minutes walk. There are a plethora of hotels you could have gone in to. I’m sure some kindly soul would have taken pity if you were absolutely desperate.

Your problem isn’t that wou weren’t able to access this toilet, it was that you believe there was no alternative but aren’t prepared to raise that issue with those who provide public toilets for non disabled people.

The public toilets in the same building were shuttered up with those looked like shop window roller shutters.

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OwlBeThere · 13/01/2026 17:10

LadyTangerine · 13/01/2026 17:07

I think it's great that toilets for disabled people are being kept for disabled people. Toilets like blue badge parking spaces are often used by able bodied people.

Sorry op but if I were you'd I'd plan better and make sure there are facilities available if you have an urgency or incontinence issue.

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If a person has an urgency or continence issue then accessible toilets are for them. Because they have a medical need to use a toilet quickly or more often.

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