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Hybrid Working Policy help needed

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jamcorrosion · 12/01/2026 19:57

Hi - my job has a policy as above, states to be in the office for 3 days a week, with an option to submit a form for unforeseen circumstances. The policy states that the focus is on days not hours spent in the office per day but the expectation is that majority of the day is spent in office when there. There’s no definition of ‘majority’ so I’ve assumed it means more than 50%. This policy has been in place a year. Recently received an email from a senior member of staff to the whole team stating that when in the office we are expected to be there for a full day.

Since this policy was introduced - I arranged my childcare around it. My son is in nursery 7.30-5.30 daily (I’m a single parent) I chose these hours so I could get to the office early. Usually around 8.15/30, I stay until lunchtime which is four hours and then head home. I do this as I thought it was better to travel home on my unpaid hour than later in the afternoon on works time.

Since receiving the email I have reached out and explained my usual routine and asked for clarification if this is no longer ok. I have been told it is no longer ok and I cannot leave at lunchtime consistently only occasionally for appointments etc. Apparently this was clarified with HR before I was given a response. Where do I stand here as the policy doesn’t state full days? I have offered to stay till later in the afternoon and explained why I chose lunchtime. Also explained that I can’t stay till later than 4pm really due to traffic and nursery pick up.

I’m just not sure where I stand or how to handle? As the policy is not specific at all. Can the goalposts be changed like this?

IABU - Suck it up
IANBU - This isnt ok to just change it

OP posts:
Negroany · 12/01/2026 21:18

CloakedInGucci · 12/01/2026 21:14

In OP’s defence, she has been very clear that she is not picking her child up until the end of the work day. Working with a small child at home all afternoon is not what she is trying to do.

I agree she’s probably going to have to stop going home at lunch (I think I work at the same place as her). But the only problem is wfh more than she’s meant to, not the additional, (and much worse imo), issue of working while looking after a small child.

Ah, I didn't spot that bit.

But agree, this is taking a policy to the exact word rather than the intention.

shuggles · 12/01/2026 21:18

@jamcorrosion Mumsnet wants me to believe that the reason why I earn an average salary is because mumsnetters work harder than me.

And then I read this nonsense about interpreting "majority of the day" as 51%, then sodding off home after 4 hours in the office.

I hope my manager is thankful that I'm not a person who sods off after doing as little as possible, but that I go above and beyond to try to do the right thing.

Movingonup313 · 12/01/2026 21:16

Fwiw i dont read what your are doing as being a day in the office. Its more like showing face on a pretence of complying with the policy. If your days are designed to accommodate childcare then your should be in the office until its time to collect your wee one. Id play ball with your employer - when wee one goes to school you might struggle for childcare and need employers support to adjust things again.

whatsit84 · 12/01/2026 21:15

PwC? Yes if I were your boss I’d expect you to be in most of the day, but leaving at 4 (provided you covered client commitments) would be fine.

CloakedInGucci · 12/01/2026 21:14

Negroany · 12/01/2026 21:11

I would have assumed that by "majority of the day" they meant you can get a slightly earlier train, not go at lunchtime. Like 80-90%, not 51%.

Once you pick your kid up, how are you working with them at home?

Can you say you'll do four days in the office, but half days like the hours you do now, and make up the time on a longer WFH day?

In OP’s defence, she has been very clear that she is not picking her child up until the end of the work day. Working with a small child at home all afternoon is not what she is trying to do.

I agree she’s probably going to have to stop going home at lunch (I think I work at the same place as her). But the only problem is wfh more than she’s meant to, not the additional, (and much worse imo), issue of working while looking after a small child.

landlordhell · 12/01/2026 21:14

A day is a day.

YorkshireIndie · 12/01/2026 21:11

Can You condense your hours so when you do an office day you work slightly less hours than when you work from home?

I used to go for a walk on my office days and would end up on the train home so I have nothing else helpful to say. My only excuse was I was the only one in the office in my team so only going into keep national rail going etc. I now have a wfh contract due to health conditions

Negroany · 12/01/2026 21:11

I would have assumed that by "majority of the day" they meant you can get a slightly earlier train, not go at lunchtime. Like 80-90%, not 51%.

Once you pick your kid up, how are you working with them at home?

Can you say you'll do four days in the office, but half days like the hours you do now, and make up the time on a longer WFH day?

everythingthelighttouches · 12/01/2026 21:10

jamcorrosion · 12/01/2026 20:13

Its over 50% - I checked all this when I first started and its always been fine until now

Do you have that in writing?

Holdonforsummer · 12/01/2026 21:08

I think you are being way too literal to assume the ‘majority’ of 7.5 hours is 4 hours……

beAsensible1 · 12/01/2026 21:06

jamcorrosion · 12/01/2026 20:14

Traffic is pretty awful - leaving at 4.30 I wouldn’t get there in time. Could push it a bit though

Is the train quicker?

Intrigued20 · 12/01/2026 21:05

You must have known you were onto a good thing here?
I can see why companies are tightening up on this.

SalmonOnFinnCrisp · 12/01/2026 21:04

jamcorrosion · 12/01/2026 20:54

Yeah that’s the issue I can’t share the load with anyone.

Well there are no F2F meetings - we are all assigned client projects. My current one has nobody else assigned from my office all other locations.

I’ve offered to stay till 3pm

Yeah i think see what they come back with on that....
And I would wait to see because if thats agreeable then it's a non event.

I would however work out the latest you can reasonably leave even if ot means more traffic (it's quite odd traffic is 45 mins max one way and so much longer the other way but I guess thats UK traffic!)
Have you ever done it at that time? Google maps is a reasonable gauge but I sometimes find it unreliable.

I'd also think about whether you would agree to this if they were adamant
you start at 8:15 so can’t you take half hour lunch finish at 4:15 and pick up by 5:30.

AfraidToRun · 12/01/2026 21:03

We can't do half and half days in case the place burns down and we don't know who is still in the office or who has just left for the day.

jamcorrosion · 12/01/2026 21:01

Lewiscapaldiscat · 12/01/2026 20:31

I’m confused - Why would travelling in work time be an option? You aren’t doing them a favour?

This is a bit muck taking and why WFH ends up being scrapped - it clearly was an issue over the last year hence the change.

you start at 8:15 so can’t you take half hour lunch finish at 4:15 and pick up by 5:30?

Lots of people travel in work time where I work it’s not unusual like I said it’s generally really flexible

it wasn’t an issue - it hasn’t been changed cause of me. I wasn’t pulled up on it this has only come up as I asked for clarification

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Candleabra · 12/01/2026 21:00

But why 3pm? You said nursery pick-up is 5.30.
It takes you 2.5 hours to get there? Surely not.

Confusion33 · 12/01/2026 21:00

You keep arguing with people about the "majority of the day" seems any reasonable person understands that the company policy doesn't mean you head home at lunchtime 3 days a week.
What would you have done if you're expected in the office 5 days a week as most now are? Id be annoyed someone leaving at lunchtime for childcare reasons 3 days a week. When im paid to work, im in work, I only leave to collect my children when the working day is over. I think you need to be realistic and understand you need to be in the office 3 FULL days, they've probably changed the policy because of you and your behaviour

Allthecoloursoftherainbow4 · 12/01/2026 20:59

jamcorrosion · 12/01/2026 20:57

I’m not spoiling it for everyone - I’ve not done anything to deliberately take the mick, I’ve followed the policy and checked beforehand and it’s never been an issue until now.

I chose a nursery close to my home not to my work. When I started at this job I was only in the office one day a week as that was all that was required and I’m not changing it now he is settled and happy.

Just out of interest when it was only 1 day in the office did you do a full day or leave at lunch?

jamcorrosion · 12/01/2026 20:57

Allthecoloursoftherainbow4 · 12/01/2026 20:31

I bet the reason they have focused on days not hours was because if they said 21hrs there'd have been cheeky sods trying to only come in for 2 long 9-10hr days then 3 days at home. Because there is always someone trying to push their luck.

Wfh is a privilege - we are SO lucky these last few years that we have been able to do it, but i can already see that eventually it won't be allowed anymore and its because every office has the people like you, who having been given an inch... Take a mile, and spoil it for everyone.

You also need to choose a nursery closer than 1hr away from work if getting to nursery pick up is such an issue

I’m not spoiling it for everyone - I’ve not done anything to deliberately take the mick, I’ve followed the policy and checked beforehand and it’s never been an issue until now.

I chose a nursery close to my home not to my work. When I started at this job I was only in the office one day a week as that was all that was required and I’m not changing it now he is settled and happy.

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Jeschara · 12/01/2026 20:56

My daughter is a Lone perent, works full time, 2 days in the office. The hours are rigid. She does the office hours as requested, I feel like others that you are taking the piss.

I suspect the company are asking for this because either, other staff have complained you are only doing half days, or the management have had enough of people especially you going early then working from home.

Thenakedwineglass · 12/01/2026 20:56

based on where I work, if your working day is 7.5 hours and the focus is on days not hours and the expectation is the majority of the day then I’d expect you to be working your whole shift ie 8.15 - 4.15 in the office assuming you have 30 mins for lunch

lunch would be for break not travel time (travel home time would be expected after your shift not during)

it sounds like rather than this being a change to policy - which has always stated 3 days, it’s had to be put out as a clarification as people aren’t doing the whole day - they are doing half days which less than what the policy has stated

jamcorrosion · 12/01/2026 20:54

SalmonOnFinnCrisp · 12/01/2026 20:27

@jamcorrosion
I get it....
I have a dh on the scene but its a long commute and we are both hybrid
I cant imagine how tough it is for you.

I get it in the sense here that they want you available for f2f meetings for more than 3 hours in the AM... which is fair...

I'd be upfront and say you have to do pick up at 5.30 and you are a single person so would they find it reasonable for you to work in office until 4.30 then do work on train and maybe an hour the evening / over the weekend.

I think its the perceived disappearing at lunch thats the problem

Edited

Yeah that’s the issue I can’t share the load with anyone.

Well there are no F2F meetings - we are all assigned client projects. My current one has nobody else assigned from my office all other locations.

I’ve offered to stay till 3pm

OP posts:
Sausagedog101 · 12/01/2026 20:54

@jamcorrosion Why do you need to leave at 3pm though? It makes very little sense, unless you have a 2.5 hour commute?

Liissey0710 · 12/01/2026 20:54

jamcorrosion · 12/01/2026 20:49

I just based what I did around what the policy said. Well that’s why I left at lunch so it didn’t interfere with work time but have offered to leave at 3 and take then as lunch

Its aganist most work policys to have lunch just before leaving. You need to work after lunch or its not a break its an early finish. Stop saying you offered to stay till 3 you get paid to do 7.5 hours thats what you should be doing or flexible request you only do 6.5 hours on office days but only get paid for that

tumbletoast · 12/01/2026 20:53

Do you not have core hours? That might have made it clearer for everyone.

It might be worth submitting a flexible working request to formalise the arrangement you need.

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